[RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version
Torsten Zuehlsdorff
tz at FreeBSD.org
Thu Jun 22 15:30:22 UTC 2017
On 22.06.2017 21:26, Baho Utot wrote:
> On 6/22/2017 10:03 AM, scratch65535 at att.net wrote:
>> [Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:18:56 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin
>> <bapt at FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>>
>>> As usual with such proposal, where do you find the manpower to handle
>>> the number
>>> of branches required (the quarterly branches are already hard to
>>> maintain, it is
>>> only one branch).
>> Please help me out here, Baptiste, because I'm apparently missing
>> *something*.
>>
>> Out in industry, if you haven't enough people to do a new
>> high-quality release every N months, and you can't get a
>> headcount increase, then you cut the release schedule. Can't do
>> 4 releases a year? Cut back to 2. Still too many? Cut back to
>> 1.
>>
>> The alternatives to cutting the schedule are that (a) people
>> begin burning out and quitting, (b) quality drops and your
>> customer base begins abandoning you, or (c) both of the above.
>>
>> Why don't the same choices apply here? What am I missing?
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
>
> I am looking at OpenBSD to replace FreeBSD. They have a more relaxed
> update schedule and that fits with what I need.
Go ahead with whatever fits your needs.
But since the ports-tree is a subversion repository it is really easy to
maintain the status you want. I do this for various customer and my
various server.
> I am looking for a system that is very stable and doesn't do the upgrade
> path for the sake of it being newer.
Which has various downsides. I remember for example various linux LTS
distros, which only apply security fixes. I discovered various bugs
which stay there for years, because they are not security issues - they
just hurt you daily. :D
> Having a "releng ports" version that goes with a releng version of the
> OS would be great by me. Linux from scratch does this and it works
> very well.
It really does not work well. In everyday situation this results in
"heck we need a new server to get a new version of a needed software,
because we need a new linux version".
I regularly seeing admins setting up different Ubuntu versions, because
at one you have PHP 7 and on the other MySQL 5.7, but not both at the
same Ubuntu version.
Greetings,
Torsten
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