Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

[Baho Utot]

On 12/03/17 20:47, Dennis Glatting wrote:
 > On Sun, 2017-12-03 at 20:07 +0000, Steven Hartland wrote:
 >> People really seem to miss the point that there are only finite
 >> resources
 >> and as an open source project that depends on people volunteering
 >> their
 >> time to add new features and maintain tools.
 >
 > Missing the point cuts both ways.
 >
 > If you have a a couple swaths of servers managed to certain tool chains
 > then the conversion process is an unnecessary and non-trivial resource
 > consumption. I have moved servers to Ubuntu and (groan) other Linux
 > flavors and customized the processes because:
 >
 >   1) I am tired of port breakage. I am past tired of being told to read
 > UPDATEs when UPDATEs often has limited information, including install
 > conflicts.
 >
 >   2) "Error 70" on installs with no indication of where the error was
 > incurred and thus requiring me to make with debug flags and then dig
 > deep is past annoying.
 >
 >   3) Nvidia does not support CUDA under FreeBSD and this is a problem
 > for TensorFlow and other applications. If I went the OpenCL route
 > (e.g., AMD GPUs) then my application base would be significantly
 > limited. I don't consider Intel a serious solution.
 >
 > Further:
 >
 > 1) Under FreeBSD I do not do binaries, rather I do source and I do
 > source for reasons. Under Linux, source is troublesome.
 >
 > 2) I had no hope of getting Intel Phi processors working under FreeBSD
 > but I do have them working under Linux, including the older Phis under
 > CentOS. I recognize this is an Intel problem which is one of the
 > reasons I do not consider Intel a serious solution, not to mention the
 > requirements and cost of an Intel compiler and Intel libraries.
 >
 > 3) FreeBSD offers me ZFS and FreeNAS as an alternative, particularly
 > for HyperV/VMware SANS. Under Linux, ZFS has historically been
 > troublesome.
 >
 >
 > These are nothing more than a few data points. Please do not bother
 > with the "then become a maintainer" response. It is not that I do not
 > appreciate the efforts of others but that statement is a BS response,
 > you know it, and I'll simply delete your message.
 >
 >
 >
Exactly  +1 for this