Is pkg quarterly really needed?

[Baho Utot]

On 04/20/17 07:29, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> Le 20/04/2017 à 13:04, Julian Elischer a écrit :
>> On 20/4/17 5:15 pm, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>>> Le 20/04/2017 à 10:49, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit :
>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Kurt Jaeger <lists at opsec.eu> wrote:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Julian Elischer
>>>>>> <julian at freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> quarterly however is broken because the pkg mirors discard it all
>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>> time of update.
>>>>>> Do they have to?
>>>>>> Why couldn't pkg mirrors keep say, the four latest quarterly sets
>>>>>> all the time?
>>>>> Because the URL for the latest quarterly is one stable URL.
>>>> Obviously this has to be changed. As I wrote:
>>>> "No extra work involved once the setup is configured and tested".
>>>> So yes, there is some work needed, but it would be a one-time job.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has any real arguments as to why the FreeBSD project can't
>>>> do it this way, let's hear them.
>>>> HTH
>>>
>>> I am not exactly sure what you are asking for, to keep the previous, not
>>> updated, quarterly package repositories ? say, in latest-1 latest-2
>>> latest-3... ?
>>>
>>>
>>> What purpose would that serve ? I mean, they would not be updated.
>>
>> exactly! that's what is often needed...  something that is not updated..
> 
> I still do not understand, if you need something that is not updated,
> then do not update...
> 

/ rant on

I tried that when I first transisioned from linux to FreeBSD.  I had one 
BITCH of a time simply because I could not find one set of base/ports 
that would give me a stable desktop.  It took me 6 months of random 
reboots ( the pc would just reboot for no reason, even if it was doing 
nothing ) packages that were in compatible with each other ( version 
hell ).  I finally got my desktop settle down,  then I became stupid and 
updated it only to go thru the process all over again.  I started using 
synth ( now I can not use it because of the last dust up that occurred, 
I don't trust it now ),  and now I have nothing to trust to get me out 
of trouble. I can not go back to a know version of base/ports that will 
together as I have not found the combination.

Now before you think I am only complaining here is a little bit of 
history. I came from Arch then moved to LFS because of the rolling 
release.  I know what a terrible time you have to keep things updated 
and working together.  The exception with LFS you can go back to a known 
point ( where things are known to work together ) and restart from there 
if you have an entire mess and must start over.

I am currently thinking of returning to LFS simply because updating 
FreeBSD and ports makes my asshole pucker.  After updating will I be 
left with something that works or will I be cussing myself for being 
stupid and updating, when I sould have left it well enough alone.

I really wanted for FreeBSD to work out so I could have one system for 
my servers, desktop and raspberry pi computers.

/rant off

Sorry if I offended anyone, I just wanted to share my delving in FreeBSD

Well carry on and have fun my friends.....