Port system "problems"

[Baptiste Daroussin]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:31:40AM +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
> On 06/26/12 11:03, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> 
> > Yes, it will multiply the number of ports.  By three is about right,
> > given that most ports will only have port-docs and port-examples
> > sub-ports.  However, first of all, you are assuming that the effort
> > required to install each of those sub-ports is the same as it is to
> > install a single port now.  That is simply not the case.
> 
> Not exactly.
> I still didn't get the details, so I might speak nonsense, however...
> 
> The "effort" will be 3x processing time for portupgrade (or whatever) to 
> update the package database 3 times as much as before.
> I remember the big X.org split up: going from a few ports to tens of 
> them slowed down an installation/upgrade process by an order of 
> magnitude (or even more).
> 
> 

The defails are not writtent yet, but it won't do that for sure :)
There are plenty of other ways
> 
> > A typical example would involve client-server apps -- so mysqlNN-server
> > becomes a sub-port of mysqlNN-client.  You get to check a box saying
> > 'install the server as well as the client' when you go to install
> > mysqlNN.  Similarly all those php5-XYZ modules become sub-ports of
> > lang/php5.
> 
> We had this in the past: a php-extension port with options to include 
> each extension or leave it out.
> Each time we needed to add a missing extension, we needed to reconfigure 
> this port and rebuild all.
> Now we have each extension in its own port and I think it's much better.
> I just hope we don't get back to that.

So you don't know what will be the change because it hasn't be presented yet,
and not written but you claim that the old solution is better, nice, FYI sub
package are coming (after stagedir) but not now yet.

Secondly in the way I want to implement them, you would still be able to build
them individually. So please before whining wait for the HEADSUP saying the work
has started on splitting packages and come help, or explain what you want at
that time. the coding process will be the same has for stage support for which
there were an exp-run and will be soon a CFT.
> 
> 
> What I anticipate will often happen is installing some port, finding out 
> that some part is missing, install the missing part, repeat that several 
> times.
> I just hope I'm wrong (and again, it is at all possible that I am wrong 
> here).
> 
> 
>   bye & Thanks
> 	av.
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