sysutils/cfs

[Chris Rees]

On 10 September 2011 06:45, Conrad J. Sabatier <conrads at cox.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:05:49 +0200
> Matthias Andree <matthias.andree at gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 09.09.2011 11:09, schrieb Conrad J. Sabatier:
>> > On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:54:36 +0200
>> > Matthias Andree <mandree at freebsd.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> No, you'd use a managed installation.  Nobody stands there
>> >> pointing a gun at your head and forces you to uninstall a port
>> >> that got removed from the ports/ tree.  If people could recognize
>> >> that, it might help get the derailed discussion back on the right
>> >> track.
>> >
>> > You fail to take into account the case where a port may need to be
>> > reinstalled.  An extraordinary effort is required if the port no
>> > longer exists in the ports tree.
>>
>> If a "port may need to be reinstalled" then you failed organize proper
>> backups.  Not a valid point here.
>
> Not necessarily.  A simple bump in library versioning could require
> ports to be rebuilt.
>
>> > Frankly, I'm growing increasingly concerned that this push to
>> > eliminate ports is getting out of control.  I don't much care for
>> > the notion that, having invested the time in installing,
>> > configuring and tuning a certain set of software packages, suddenly
>> > the rug could be pulled out from under me, so to speak, in essence
>> > *forcing* me to abandon using certain packages or else deal with
>> > maintaining them (in the ports maintainer sense) on my own.
>>
>> The rug is pulled by the upstream maintainers abandoning their
>> software, not by FreeBSD no longer packaging it years after the fact.
>
> While I understand the reasoning behind this, I still feel that as long
> as a package continues to build and run without any known issues, then
> why be in a rush to drop it?  The argument that "the ports collection
> is not a museum" is valid to some degree, but if a package is still
> usable (and useful), then aren't we shooting ourselves in the foot by
> dropping it?
>

Can we please change the subject line? Most of us are in agreement
that this particular case is not that questionable.

This thread is for volunteers to fix cfs.

Chris