Time to kill FreeBSD as a Desktop

Rico Secada coolzone at io.dk
Thu Mar 29 23:49:52 UTC 2007

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:45:30 -0800
Gary Kline <kline at tao.thought.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:46:34PM +0200, Rico Secada wrote:
> > Hi All.
> > 
> > I have been using FreeBSD as a desktop system, on serveral computers for about one and a half year now. I truly love FreeBSD! But keeping third party ports/packages updated is just to timeconsuming IMHO.
> > 
> > Building everything from ports is ok, on a quick machine, but even on a quick machine building KDE takes a LOT of time. Waiting until the stable packages are ready takes about 2 - 3 weeks, and until then, a lot of other stuff needs to be updated. 
> > 
> > Compared to Debian GNU/Linux's "apt-get update && apt-get dist upgrade" command, OR OpenBSD's "pkg-add -u"
> > 
> > >From OpenBSD's man page for "pkg_add": 
> > 
> >      -u       Update the given pkgname(s), and anything it depends upon.  If
> >               no pkgname is given, pkg_add will update all installed packages.
> >               This relies on PKG_PATH to figure out the new package names.
> > 
> > I really think it is time for FreeBSD to make it more easy to update binary packages, like on OpenBSD. 
> 	Until recent months, I was hyping the Ubuntu distro of Deb/Linux.
> 	*Everything* was push-button.  Well, okay, my first upgrade was 
> 	a disastrous week or three long series of do-overs.  But the 
> 	second upgrade (to 6.06) was push-buttons and wait until several
> 	hundred megs came across my 144k ISDL.  I was eager to move up to
> 	6.10, but the first several forum posts gave me pause.  Nutshell is
> 	that you can [easily] upgrade every "Long-Term Support" version.
> 	But these are 2 or three years apart.  And the backports are often 
> 	"unofficial"  (ya' takes yer risks).  I'm still pretty happy with
> 	older Gnome and KDE, older apps.  The Berkeley distros have the
> 	leading-edge versions, but at least we (FBSD) don't have an easy
> 	way of upgrading ports.  I'll stick with the rock-solid stability
> 	of FreeBSD for my DNS server.  I'll test things that will improve
> 	the performance of my slower servers--(tuning)--and be ready to
> 	offer ideas, even SWAGS, on upgrading.  
> 	So: real work here; play/AV or mostly Audio or Ubuntu.
> 	gary

Thats typical Ubuntu. Those problems doesn't exist on Debian. And no "unofficial" repos are needed on Debian.

> > 
> > Best and kind regards,
> > Rico
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