Limitations of Ports System

[David Southwell]

On Saturday 15 December 2007 10:41:14 Frank J. Laszlo wrote:
> David Southwell wrote:
> > And get this
> >
> > I have been around the computer world using *nix long before freebsd came
> > along. That does not mean what I say today deserves to be judged other
> > than on its face value. However what over 40 years in IT has encouraged
> > me to think  that those who invite people to judge a book by its cover
> > have either not read the book or can't be bothered to do so.
> >
> > I am sure you have a lot of knowledge and experience but I doubt whether
> > your collegiality is more attractive than your sense of humour.
> > I recall you once said:
> > "remember sometimes my jokes are crude"
> >  judging by your contributions to this thread am I not entitled to wonder
> > if your assessment of your jokes is also applicable to your general
> > standard of reasoning?
>
> I am making no jokes. Also note that I was not speaking to you, so why
> do you get in the middle of every one elses business?
What you say on this list is everyone's business and those who do not post 
collegially may expect to be reminded of its value.

>
> > Now please take note;
> > 1. This thread is entitled Limitation of Ports System. Please stay on
> > topic.
>
> I was not the person who went off topic, perhaps you should read back to
> the beginning on this thread where Aryeh began to bring his "project"
> back into this topic.
>
> > 2. If you want people to take you seriously either post some technical
> > information relevant to the topic that gains you some credibility or
> > press the delete key and keep quiet.
>
> I have no need to gain credibility, those who know me know exactly how
> "credible" I am. those who dont, I could care less what they think. This
> includes you sir.

IMHO credibility is gained by treating individuals with respect even when one 
disagrees with their point of view. In a technical list such as ports@ one is 
entitled to expect a technical response not invalid arguments ad personam. 
>
> > 3. Please stop trolling.
>
> I am not trolling, If I didnt know any better, I'd say that you are the
> one trolling.

Prove it. Either make a technical contribution or use the delete key.
>
> > 4. You could start a thread "Why we should not discuss the limitations of
> > Port System and keep your contributions on topic there. I can assure you
> > that I will not be trying to highjack that dialogue.
>
> Thats rediculous, certainly your 40+ years in IT would have discovered
> this long before posting such useless comments.

My intention is not to offend but to draw attention to the need to remain on 
topic and not to argue ad personam.
>
> I rarely post on -ports anymore, due to the lack of order and respect
> for those who actually DO SOMETHING, and not just bitch and moan about
> things that should be done.
>
> This thread is useless, as there is no actual solutions attached.. If
> you want to bitch and moan about how things should get done on freebsd,
> then move it to -chat, theres plenty of trolls to feed there.
If the thread is useless why are you wasting your time posting to it?
In the face of these statement Iis it not reasonable to ask if you posting for 
kicks?

David