[SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports
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Sun Oct 16 13:44:04 PDT 2005
On Sunday 16 October 2005 03:20, the author Panagiotis Astithas contributed
to the dialogue on-
Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports:
>Wes Peters wrote:
>> On Oct 15, 2005, at 2:39 AM, Panagiotis Astithas wrote:
>>> Mark Linimon wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:15:07PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote:
>>>>> I don't mind moving the eclipse ports from java to devel, but all
>>>>> the other eclipse ports are add-ins to eclipse and should probably
>>>>> be classified along with eclipse.
>>>> [adding freebsd-java to the Cc:]
>>>> For some background, there's been on-and-off discussion on -java
>>>> about how the java category was never really a good idea. None of
>>>> the other languages have their own primary category. In particular
>>>> we've completely failed to train our users to send 'java' PRs only
>>>> for problems with the JVMs and 'ports' PRs for things in ports/java.
>>>>> In particular, if eclipse is a 'devel' tool, I don't see how CDT
>>>>> and phpeclipse are editors. GEF isn't a graphics library, it's a
>>>>> graphical emulation framework for eclipse, which is (again) a
>>>>> development tool.
>>> Although I agree with everything you say here, I can't see how this
>>> is an argument against the fact that GEF and CDT most probably belong
>>> to devel. Unless I'm mistaken and you were not making one?
>> I was making an argument that regardless of where eclipse migrates too,
>> all of it's little pieces should go right along with it, rather than
>> getting spread all over the ports system.
>Since you snipped Mark's reply in your quote, let me clarify that my
>comments above were directed to Mark and I agree with your point.
>However I'm not sure whether there has to be a strict rule that every
>eclipse-foo port should go in the same category. Perhaps the emacs
>precedent should be followed. See below.
>Norikatsu Shigemura wrote:
> > On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:14:59 +0900 (JST)
> > Norikatsu Shigemura <nork at freebsd.org> wrote:
> >>Hi eclipse and eclipse related ports maintainers and users!
> >> Some time ago, someone suggested that eclipse and eclipse
> >> related ports should be located on proper categories. I
> >> think so. So I suggest following repocopy list. Anyone,
> >> do you have any idea?
> > Oops, I missed. Eclipse is very similar to Emacs:
> > 1. IDE
> > Emacs is a one of IDE(or platform). And anyone doesn't
> > think that it is ONLY a elisp interpreter. But it is
> > a editor. So I think that it is no problem that Eclipse
> > may be categolize to editors.
> > 2. Extension-able
> > Emacs has many extention modules like news reader, language
> > support, games, ...
> > 3. Mode
> > Emacs has many mode for descriptions like C, Perl, Java, ...
> > 4. others
> > It must be that there are other similar feature:-).
> > java/eclipse -> editors/eclipse
> > java/eclipse-EPIC -> editors/eclipse-EPIC
> > java/eclipse-cdt -> editors/eclipse-cdt
> > java/eclipse-checkstyle -> devel/eclipse-checkstyle
> > java/eclipse-clay-core -> databases/eclipse-clay-core
> > java/eclipse-devel -> editors/eclipse-devel
> > java/eclipse-emf -> editors/eclipse-emf
> > java/eclipse-examples -> devel/eclipse-examples
> > java/eclipse-gef -> editors/eclipse-gef
> > java/eclipse-gef-examples -> editors/eclipse-gef-examples
> > java/eclipse-langpack -> editors/eclipse-langpack
> > java/eclipse-log4e -> editors/eclipse-log4e
> > java/eclipse-lomboz -> devel/eclipse-lomboz
> > java/eclipse-pmd -> devel/eclipse-pmd
> > java/eclipse-quantum -> databases/eclipse-quantum
> > java/eclipse-sqlexplorer -> databases/eclipse-sqlexplorer
> > java/eclipse-sysdeo-tomcat -> www/eclipse-sysdeo-tomcat
> > java/eclipse-uml -> editors/eclipse-uml
> > java/eclipse-v4all -> editors/eclipse-v4all
> > java/eclipse-vep -> editors/eclipse-vep
> > java/eclipse-vep-examples -> editors/eclipse-vep-examples
> > java/eclipse-viplugin -> editors/eclipse-viplugin
> > java/eclipseme -> devel/eclipseme
> > java/phpeclipse -> editors/phpeclipse
>This sounds fine, too.
Sounds crazy to me...
Scattering eclipse tools over the whole ports collections is, to my mind, a
retrograde, rather than a positive step. There are another 290 pus eclipse
tools to bring on board!!
I would continue to advocate for a single collection
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