Traceroute Anomaly

Gregory Kuhn freebsd-net at lists.ctch.net
Fri Aug 20 10:01:37 PDT 2004


Hello,


         I have discovered an anomaly (I am sure it was discovered long 
ago) when trying to traceroute to my FBSD 4.8 and 4.9 servers.  Here are 
the details.

1.  From any of the FBSD boxes regardless if they are on the immediate 
network (206.168.231.96/28, 207.174.139.224/28) or on an entirely separate 
network (63.227.123.49/32) I am unable to traceroute to any of the other 
FBSD boxes.
         a.  From the same FBSD box I am able to traceroute to say, 
www.yahoo.com
         b.  From the same FBSD box I am able to ping any of the other FBSD 
boxes.
         c.  From the same FBSD box I am able to trace to any of the other 
FBSD boxes using MTR.

2.  From a W2K box I am able to trace to any of the FBSD boxes using the 
DOS tracert command.

3.  One FBSD box was just brought up and as yet I have not setup the 
firewall rules.  The current rule set on that particular box is;
         pass in from any to any
         pass out from any to any

         My question is this;
Why can I do a traceroute using the DOS version of traceroute (tracert) to 
any of my FreeBSD boxes, but I am not able to do so from another FreeBSD 
box?  Furthermore, it is not just from my own boxes that I am unable to do 
a traceroute.  Using the traceroutes listed at www.traceroute.org I again 
am unable to trace back to my FBSD boxes.

Here are examples of the traces;

 From the W2K box:
C:\Documents and Settings\gkuhn>tracert maps.ctch.net
Tracing route to maps.ctch.net [207.174.139.228]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  10.0.0.1
2    50 ms    40 ms    41 ms  63-227-123-254.dnvr.qwest.net [63.227.123.254]
3    60 ms    50 ms    50 ms  dnvr-agw1.inet.qwest.net [207.225.112.29]
4    60 ms    50 ms    50 ms  thn-core-02.inet.qwest.net [206.196.128.215]
5    61 ms    40 ms    40 ms  dia-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.81]
6    70 ms    60 ms    80 ms  kcm-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.138]
7    60 ms    80 ms    70 ms  kcm-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.29.126]
8    70 ms    70 ms    70 ms  dal-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.141]
9    70 ms    71 ms    80 ms  dal-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.25.50]
10    70 ms    70 ms   100 ms  acr1-so-2-0-0.Dallas.savvis.net 
[208.172.131.201]
11    70 ms    80 ms    70 ms  dcr1-as0-0.Dallas.savvis.net [208.172.131.45]
12    90 ms   100 ms    90 ms  acr2.Denver.savvis.net [208.172.162.62]
13   101 ms   110 ms   120 ms  bar1.Denver.savvis.net [208.172.162.3]
14    90 ms   101 ms   100 ms  rockynet.Denver.savvis.net [208.172.167.22]
15   100 ms   120 ms   101 ms  denver-core-2-fe-0-0.rockynet.com 
[206.168.230.1]
16    90 ms   100 ms   100 ms  colo2-denver.rockynet.com [208.139.193.147]
17   100 ms    90 ms   100 ms  maps.ctch.net [207.174.139.228]

 From a FBSD 4.8 Box;
db1-10:10:20 ~: traceroute maps.ctch.net
traceroute to maps.ctch.net (207.174.139.228), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets
  1  10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1)  0.954 ms  0.927 ms  0.925 ms
  2  63-227-123-254.dnvr.qwest.net (63.227.123.254)  130.726 ms  163.887 
ms  77.019 ms
  3  dnvr-agw1.inet.qwest.net (207.225.112.29)  48.165 ms  48.638 ms  47.330 ms
  4  thn-core-02.inet.qwest.net (206.196.128.215)  47.467 ms  49.120 
ms  48.512 ms
  5  dia-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.81)  47.737 ms  49.954 ms  52.074 ms
  6  kcm-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.138)  79.195 ms  61.066 
ms  62.356 ms
  7  kcm-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.29.126)  60.046 ms  61.297 
ms  62.098 ms
  8  dal-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.141)  72.310 ms  69.674 
ms  71.816 ms
  9  dal-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.25.50)  71.089 ms  69.552 
ms  71.685 ms
10  acr1-so-2-0-0.Dallas.savvis.net (208.172.131.201)  71.973 ms  71.094 
ms  69.525 ms
11  dcr1-as0-0.Dallas.savvis.net (208.172.131.45)  69.817 ms 
dcr2-as0-0.Dallas.savvis.net (208.172.131.53)  71.877 ms 
dcr1-as0-0.Dallas.savvis.net (208.172.131.45)  81.925 ms
12  acr2.Denver.savvis.net (208.172.162.62)  93.542 ms  90.982 ms  94.390 ms
13  bar1.Denver.savvis.net (208.172.162.3)  103.941 ms  234.812 ms  186.193 ms
14  rockynet.Denver.savvis.net (208.172.167.22)  312.530 ms  217.025 
ms  134.002 ms
15  denver-core-2-fe-0-0.rockynet.com (206.168.230.1)  144.291 ms  95.658 
ms  94.367 ms
16  colo2-denver.rockynet.com (208.139.193.147)  97.248 ms  96.236 
ms  95.239 ms
17  * * *
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^C

Trace from above FSBD box using MTR:
Hostname                                %Loss  Rcv  Snt  Last Best  Avg  Worst
  1. 10.0.0.1                            0%    3    3     1    1    1      1
  2. 63-227-123-254.dnvr.qwest.net       0%    3    3    49   45   47     49
  3. dnvr-agw1.inet.qwest.net            0%    3    3    48   48   48     48
  4. thn-core-02.inet.qwest.net          0%    3    3    49   48   50     54
  5. dia-core-01.inet.qwest.net          0%    3    3    53   47   50     53
  6. kcm-core-01.inet.qwest.net          0%    3    3    70   60   63     70
  7. kcm-core-02.inet.qwest.net          0%    3    3    60   58   60     62
  8. dal-core-02.inet.qwest.net          0%    3    3    69   69   71     73
  9. dal-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net          0%    3    3    70   70   70     71
10. acr1-so-2-0-0.Dallas.savvis.net     0%    3    3    69   69   70     70
11. dcr2-as0-0.Dallas.savvis.net        0%    3    3    70   70   70     72
12. acr2.Denver.savvis.net              0%    3    3    90   90   91     93
13. bar1.Denver.savvis.net              0%    2    3   104  104  108    111
14. rockynet.Denver.savvis.net          0%    2    2    95   93   94     95
15. denver-core-2-fe-0-0.rockynet.com   0%    2    2    94   94   95     96
16. colo2-denver.rockynet.com           0%    2    2    96   96   98     99
17. maps.ctch.net                       0%    2    2    95   95   96     97

 From this looking glass in Canada at
http://looking-glass.in.bellnexxia.net:8080/cgi-bin/lg.pl


Translating "maps.ctch.net"...domain server (205.207.237.48) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to maps.ctch.net (207.174.139.228)

   1 dis40-toronto63-fe5-0-0.in.bellnexxia.net (205.207.238.210) 0 msec 0 
msec 0 msec
   2 core1-toronto63-pos11-5.in.bellnexxia.net (206.108.98.21) 0 msec 0 
msec 0 msec
   3 core3-toronto63-pos0-1.in.bellnexxia.net (64.230.242.93) 0 msec 4 msec 
0 msec
   4 core2-chicago23-pos0-0.in.bellnexxia.net (206.108.103.114) 12 msec 12 
msec 8 msec
   5 bx1-chicago23-pos11-0.in.bellnexxia.net (206.108.103.125) 8 msec 12 
msec 12 msec
   6 p5-2.IR1.Chicago2-IL.us.xo.net (207.88.50.173) [AS 2828] 12 msec 12 
msec 12 msec
   7 p5-0-0.RAR1.Chicago-IL.us.xo.net (65.106.6.133) [AS 2828] 12 msec 12 
msec 12 msec
   8 p6-0-0.RAR2.Denver-CO.us.xo.net (65.106.0.25) [AS 2828] 36 msec 36 
msec 32 msec
   9 p4-0-0.MAR2.Englewood-CO.us.xo.net (65.106.6.18) [AS 2828] 36 msec 36 
msec 36 msec
  10 p15-0.CHR1.Englewood-CO.us.xo.net (207.88.83.14) [AS 2828] 36 msec 32 
msec 36 msec
  11 66.236.86.10.ptr.us.xo.net (66.236.86.10) [AS 2828] 40 msec 40 msec 40 
msec
  12 border3.ge3-0-bbnet2.den.pnap.net (216.52.40.71) [AS 13790] 40 msec 36 
msec 40 msec
  13 rockynet-1.border3.den.pnap.net (63.251.181.222) [AS 13790] 44 msec 40 
msec 40 msec
  14 denver-core-2-fe-0-0.rockynet.com (206.168.230.1) [AS 13345] 40 msec 
40 msec 40 msec
  15 colo2-denver.rockynet.com (208.139.193.147) [AS 13345] 44 msec 40 msec 
44 msec
  16  *  *  *
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         Thank you in advance for any insight into why this is.
Greg 




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