From edwin at FreeBSD.org  Fri May  2 10:00:18 2008
From: edwin at FreeBSD.org (edwin@FreeBSD.org)
Date: Fri May  2 10:00:21 2008
Subject: ports/123327: Port fix: graphics/libcaca - CONFIGURE_ENV
	incorrectly set
Message-ID: <200805021000.m42A0Hcn054971@freefall.freebsd.org>

Synopsis: Port fix: graphics/libcaca - CONFIGURE_ENV incorrectly set

Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-ports-bugs->freebsd-multimedia
Responsible-Changed-By: edwin
Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 2 10:00:17 UTC 2008
Responsible-Changed-Why: 
Over to maintainer (via the GNATS Auto Assign Tool)

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=123327
From zb at ispid.com.pl  Fri May  2 14:12:44 2008
From: zb at ispid.com.pl (Zbigniew Baniewski)
Date: Fri May  2 14:12:50 2008
Subject: bktr: how to terminate tuner-program, while keeping audio on?
Message-ID: <20080502134601.GA6402@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>

Hallo,

I would to change a bit a functionality of the tuneradio.c utility
( http://freebsd.monkey.org/freebsd-multimedia/200310/msg00045.html )

I mean: I would to have audio still on, after the program itself has been
terminated already. It isn't any problem under Linux, using v4l(2) - but,
unfortunately, under FreeBSD: each time, when the program has been
terminated, the audio automatically gets muted.

Is it part of functionality of bktr driver - or perhaps one can suppress the
behaviour like described above (but different way, than just keeping the
application still "on")?
-- 
				pozdrawiam / regards

						Zbigniew Baniewski
From danny at ricin.com  Sat May  3 01:15:41 2008
From: danny at ricin.com (Danny Pansters)
Date: Sat May  3 01:15:45 2008
Subject: bktr: how to terminate tuner-program, while keeping audio on?
In-Reply-To: <20080502134601.GA6402@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
References: <20080502134601.GA6402@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
Message-ID: <200805022302.00892.danny@ricin.com>

On Friday 02 May 2008 15:46:01 Zbigniew Baniewski wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> I would to change a bit a functionality of the tuneradio.c utility
> ( http://freebsd.monkey.org/freebsd-multimedia/200310/msg00045.html )
>
> I mean: I would to have audio still on, after the program itself has been
> terminated already. It isn't any problem under Linux, using v4l(2) - but,
> unfortunately, under FreeBSD: each time, when the program has been
> terminated, the audio automatically gets muted.
>
> Is it part of functionality of bktr driver - or perhaps one can suppress
> the behaviour like described above (but different way, than just keeping
> the application still "on")?

It's in the driver, yes. Of course you can code a small capture application 
that doesn't really do anything with the video data, but merely keeps the 
device open. Or patch the driver for your purpose, should be one line.

Dan
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From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Sat May  3 12:39:57 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard-1)
Date: Sat May  3 12:40:02 2008
Subject: Problems with V7.0
Message-ID: <20080503125041.0025aece@gb7tf.ath.cx>

Hi All
I'm in the progress of migrating from Linux MDV2008 but I've hit a big 
install problem.
The original graphics card was a Nvidia FX5200.
Running Xorg -configure found it the first time and X started.
I then managed to get KDE running but I use Gnome, so I loaded gnome
and edited rc.conf to use gdm instead of kdm.
And I goofed at that point by missing out one of the quotes . 
so when FreeBSD V7 was rebooted it hung.
I managed with help to mount /etc/rc.conf and edit it, but then
problems.
Xorg would not start properly, with a fatal message of cant find
screens.
running Xorg -configure failed repeatedly not knowing which driver
to load.
I've manually edited xorg.conf with know good setting from linux, where
the same card is used, but still failed on no screens found.
So next was a complete re-install, and the same happened again.
In case it was the graphics card I bought  new PCI Express Nvidia 8500T
which allegedly uses the same xorg driver "nv".
Now I have two graphics cars that Xorg -configure cant find.
Both cards are found without any problems when linux is running.

I can't understand why on the first install the card was found and
configured, but on all subsequent installs they both  fail.

Ideas please

Also are there drivers available for my DVB-T card :-
 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and
Audio Decoder (rev 05) Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. Unknown
device 9002 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 18
        Memory at fb000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
        
Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and
Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05) Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works
Inc. Nova-T DVB-T Model 909 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency
32, IRQ 18 Memory at fc000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]

         Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and
Audio Decoder [IR Port] (rev 05) Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works
Inc. Nova-T DVB-T Model 909 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency
32, IRQ 9 Memory at fd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]

I saw mentioned while googling someone was working on them, what is the
status ???



TIA 

Best wishes

Richard Bown 

From solarux at hotmail.com  Sat May  3 20:20:10 2008
From: solarux at hotmail.com (Rick Nekus)
Date: Sat May  3 20:20:14 2008
Subject: Problems with V7.0
In-Reply-To: <20080503125041.0025aece@gb7tf.ath.cx>
References: <20080503125041.0025aece@gb7tf.ath.cx>
Message-ID: <BAY113-W5300000582F6C302A53E8EA1D50@phx.gbl>


Hi, I have an 8500GT and it works great in FreeBSD Release 7.0 at 1680x1050, ...

The best refernce to help with configuring FreeBSD (if you're used to Linux like I was/am)
is still the FreeBSD Handbook.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

I've had many nvidia cards, its best to update your FreeBSD ports, and then install and load the nvidia-driver.
#portsnap fetch extract update
#cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/ ; make install clean
optionally,
#cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-settings/ ; make install clean
#cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-xconfig/ ; make install clean
(a nice GUI version of xorgconfig -but you'll have to be root/sudo)

-if you already have xorg, and gnome then run
#xorgconfig
-even though its a CLI, I like to use "xorgconfig".
-re-edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and under the Section "Device" make sure you "nvidia" after Driver, NOT the xorg "nv"
.
ie:
Driver "nvidia"

http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_169.12.html
-has some good tips on fine-tuning your xorg.conf settings, as well as
(http://us.download.nvidia.com/freebsd/169.12/README/chapter-04-section-02.html)
although the basic ones (via the FreeBSD ports and Handbook are more than sufficient.

also, you shouldn't have to edit /etc/rc.conf at all, other than optionally having the linux emulator of your cho
ice loaded ie: in /etc/rc.conf -> linux_enable="YES"

edit ~/.xinitrc and add "exec startkde" (if your using kde)
or exec startgnome, although I'm not sure-I dont use gnome.

and make sure you have the line:
nvidia_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf

anyway, sorry if I'm long-winded here , but its all in the FreeBSD Handbook :)

-For the conexant/Huappage stuff check out the "pvrxxx" FreeBSD port and/or serch the subject threads here.
I have a Hauppage PVR-350 thats workin great on FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE, although I havent checked in a year or so :)

Good luck.

ood luck.
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From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Sun May  4 07:59:01 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard-1)
Date: Sun May  4 07:59:06 2008
Subject: Problems with V7.0
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-W5300000582F6C302A53E8EA1D50@phx.gbl>
References: <20080503125041.0025aece@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<BAY113-W5300000582F6C302A53E8EA1D50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20080504085859.7d1a05ee@gb7tf.ath.cx>


HI Rick
Thanks for the info,
I'll put my comments art the end of the mail, Mandriva's back port of 
claws-mail doesn't put the original mail in quotes.

Rick said :-
Hi, I have an 8500GT and it works great in FreeBSD Release 7.0 at
1680x1050, ...

The best refernce to help with configuring FreeBSD (if you're used to
Linux like I was/am) is still the FreeBSD Handbook.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

I've had many nvidia cards, its best to update your FreeBSD ports, and
then install and load the nvidia-driver. #portsnap fetch extract update
#cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/ ; make install clean
optionally,
#cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-settings/ ; make install clean
#cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-xconfig/ ; make install clean
(a nice GUI version of xorgconfig -but you'll have to be root/sudo)

-if you already have xorg, and gnome then run
#xorgconfig
-even though its a CLI, I like to use "xorgconfig".
-re-edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and under the Section "Device" make sure
you "nvidia" after Driver, NOT the xorg "nv" .
ie:
Driver "nvidia"

http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_169.12.html
-has some good tips on fine-tuning your xorg.conf settings, as well as
(http://us.download.nvidia.com/freebsd/169.12/README/chapter-04-section-02.html)
although the basic ones (via the FreeBSD ports and Handbook are more
than sufficient.

also, you shouldn't have to edit /etc/rc.conf at all, other than
optionally having the linux emulator of your cho ice loaded ie:
in /etc/rc.conf -> linux_enable="YES"

edit ~/.xinitrc and add "exec startkde" (if your using kde)
or exec startgnome, although I'm not sure-I dont use gnome.

and make sure you have the line:
nvidia_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf

anyway, sorry if I'm long-winded here , but its all in the FreeBSD
Handbook :)

-For the conexant/Huappage stuff check out the "pvrxxx" FreeBSD port
and/or serch the subject threads here. I have a Hauppage PVR-350 thats
workin great on FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE, although I havent checked in a year
or so :)

Good luck.

I've got X running with the nv driver at the moment, but I'll move over
to the nvidia driver once I've got the desktop sorted.
The last fresh install went in cleanly, only one packaged borked,
whereas before it was many..
I agree about the handbook, I would have been really stuck without it,

There must have been something still left on the HD from the first
install which I screwed up..

I'll have a look a the pvr port.

thanks for the infor 

Richard

From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Sun May  4 16:51:10 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard-1)
Date: Sun May  4 16:51:15 2008
Subject: usb mouse
Message-ID: <20080504175109.6cc5eed4@gb7tf.ath.cx>

Hi all
Sorry to post to this list, I havn't had the e-mail back on the
general list yet.

Has anyone got a USB Wheel optical mouse PS/2 compatable,
Could you please let me know the protocol section in xorg.conf
is.
According to the xorg.conf on the linux partition its listed as
"ExplorePS/2"

ON a console its working, mouse deamon looks happy, but on X with
gnome, its not working.

I've tried changing  from option "Protocol" "auto" to "ExporerPS/2"
but still nothing.
It was working before on the default desktop, but not in gnome.

Ideas please

TIA 
Richard

From stefan.lambrev at moneybookers.com  Sun May  4 18:49:12 2008
From: stefan.lambrev at moneybookers.com (Stefan Lambrev)
Date: Sun May  4 18:49:15 2008
Subject: usb mouse
In-Reply-To: <20080504175109.6cc5eed4@gb7tf.ath.cx>
References: <20080504175109.6cc5eed4@gb7tf.ath.cx>
Message-ID: <481E0522.3020707@moneybookers.com>

Richard-1 wrote:
> Hi all
> Sorry to post to this list, I havn't had the e-mail back on the
> general list yet.
> 
> Has anyone got a USB Wheel optical mouse PS/2 compatable,
> Could you please let me know the protocol section in xorg.conf
> is.
> According to the xorg.conf on the linux partition its listed as
> "ExplorePS/2"
> 
> ON a console its working, mouse deamon looks happy, but on X with
> gnome, its not working.
> 
> I've tried changing  from option "Protocol" "auto" to "ExporerPS/2"
> but still nothing.
> It was working before on the default desktop, but not in gnome.
> 
> Ideas please

I'm using MS mouse which is USB, optical with scroll button :)

Here is what I have in my xorg.con :

Section "InputDevice"

     Identifier  "Mouse1"
     Driver      "mouse"
     Option "Protocol"   "Auto"
     #Option "Protocol"    "MouseSystems"
     Option "Device"      "/dev/sysmouse"
     Option "Buttons" "5"
     Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"

EndSection

I think you should have moused_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf to be able 
to use sysmouse as option in X.

Hope this helps :)

-- 

Best Wishes,
Stefan Lambrev
ICQ# 24134177
From chris at monochrome.org  Sun May  4 18:58:01 2008
From: chris at monochrome.org (Chris Hill)
Date: Sun May  4 18:58:05 2008
Subject: usb mouse
In-Reply-To: <20080504175109.6cc5eed4@gb7tf.ath.cx>
References: <20080504175109.6cc5eed4@gb7tf.ath.cx>
Message-ID: <20080504143234.E65264@tripel.monochrome.org>

On Sun, 4 May 2008, Richard-1 wrote:

> Has anyone got a USB Wheel optical mouse PS/2 compatable,

Yes:
$ dmesg | grep -i mouse
ums0: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse, rev 2.00/20.00, addr 2, iclass 
3/1

> Could you please let me know the protocol section in xorg.conf
> is.

Mine reads:

Section "InputDevice"
         Identifier  "Mouse0"
         Driver      "mouse"
         Option      "Protocol" "auto"
         Option      "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
         Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

This may have been atomatically generated, but I'm not 100% sure since 
this has been working for years.

> According to the xorg.conf on the linux partition its listed as
> "ExplorePS/2"
>
> ON a console its working, mouse deamon looks happy, but on X with
> gnome, its not working.
>
> I've tried changing  from option "Protocol" "auto" to "ExporerPS/2"
> but still nothing.
> It was working before on the default desktop, but not in gnome.

"default desktop" meaning twm? If so, is it working *now* with twm? If 
so, this looks like a gnome issue, on which I am not qualified to 
comment.

I'd first try eliminating the gnome variable: in your xinitrc, comment 
out whatever it is that starts gnome and replace it with <some other 
window manager> instead, perhaps twm, and see if the mouse works. Then 
you'll at least know if it's a problem specifically with gnome, or with 
X in general.

HTH.

--
Chris Hill               chris@monochrome.org
**                     [ Busy Expunging <|> ]
From jeff at doeshosting.com  Sun May  4 19:19:50 2008
From: jeff at doeshosting.com (Jeff)
Date: Sun May  4 19:19:53 2008
Subject: usb mouse
In-Reply-To: <20080504175109.6cc5eed4@gb7tf.ath.cx>
References: <20080504175109.6cc5eed4@gb7tf.ath.cx>
Message-ID: <43974699-558F-4832-93AA-7642BC30969D@doeshosting.com>


On May 4, 2008, at 12:51 PM, Richard-1 wrote:
> ...
> Has anyone got a USB Wheel optical mouse PS/2 compatable,
> Could you please let me know the protocol section in xorg.conf
> is.
> According to the xorg.conf on the linux partition its listed as
> "ExplorePS/2"
>

Have you tried letting sysinstall setup the mouse for you?  Try  
using /dev/sysmouse.  At the bottom of this page they suggest /dev/ 
sysmouse
http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.1/doc/mouse4.html  and it works fine  
for me.  I let xorg auto sense my setup, and here is what is what it  
put for sysmouse:

Section "InputDevice"
         Identifier  "Mouse0"
         Driver      "mouse"
         Option      "Protocol" "auto"
         Option      "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
         Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

take a look at xorgconfig

-krzee
From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Sun May  4 19:51:23 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Sun May  4 19:51:27 2008
Subject: usb mouse-fixed
In-Reply-To: <20080504143234.E65264@tripel.monochrome.org>
References: <20080504175109.6cc5eed4@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<20080504143234.E65264@tripel.monochrome.org>
Message-ID: <20080504205121.72ef58ff@gb7tf>


Thanks to all who sent replies, now sorted

thanks for the help
-- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
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From edwin at FreeBSD.org  Sun May  4 23:50:06 2008
From: edwin at FreeBSD.org (edwin@FreeBSD.org)
Date: Sun May  4 23:50:09 2008
Subject: ports/123409: [Patch] ports:multimedia/ffmpeg fix
	WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS problem if build with gcc 4.2
Message-ID: <200805042350.m44No5xc083695@freefall.freebsd.org>

Synopsis: [Patch] ports:multimedia/ffmpeg fix WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS problem if build with gcc 4.2

Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-ports-bugs->freebsd-multimedia
Responsible-Changed-By: edwin
Responsible-Changed-When: Sun May 4 23:50:05 UTC 2008
Responsible-Changed-Why: 
Over to maintainer (via the GNATS Auto Assign Tool)

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=123409
From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Mon May  5 00:12:46 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Mon May  5 00:12:49 2008
Subject: sunweb site login ???
Message-ID: <20080505011244.02dd3fb7@gb7tf>


Hi
trying to load openoffice and I need 

-JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.0" to obtain the
 time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_0-2007h.zip.
I've registered an acount and I've had the conformation e-mail, but 
although I can log into the developers page, it wont let me 
in on this page
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
It knows its me, so the login must be OK but everytime I
hit the continue button, I'm asked to login or register.

Anyone else had problems on that page ??

- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
www.software-radio.org.uk
##################################################

From cptsalek at gmail.com  Mon May  5 07:02:39 2008
From: cptsalek at gmail.com (Christian Walther)
Date: Mon May  5 07:02:43 2008
Subject: sunweb site login ???
In-Reply-To: <20080505011244.02dd3fb7@gb7tf>
References: <20080505011244.02dd3fb7@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <14989d6e0805042336q62873af8hd513c24c805fa6e8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Richard,

2008/5/5 Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk>:
>
>  Hi
>  trying to load openoffice and I need
>
>  -JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.0" to obtain the
>   time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_0-2007h.zip.
>  I've registered an acount and I've had the conformation e-mail, but
>  although I can log into the developers page, it wont let me
>  in on this page
>  http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
>  It knows its me, so the login must be OK but everytime I
>  hit the continue button, I'm asked to login or register.
>
are you probably using Firefox with some extensions, e.g. NoScript,
and do you per default deny cookies?
Make sure that cookies are enabled for sun.com and that you allow
jav/script on sun.com (at least temporarily).

HTH
Christian
>  Anyone else had problems on that page ??
>
>  -
>
>
>  Best Wishes
>  Richard Bown
>  ----
>  ##################################################
>  OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
>  HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
>  located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
>  QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
>  www.software-radio.org.uk
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>
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From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Mon May  5 09:20:16 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Mon May  5 09:20:22 2008
Subject: sunweb site login ???
In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0805042336q62873af8hd513c24c805fa6e8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080505011244.02dd3fb7@gb7tf>
	<14989d6e0805042336q62873af8hd513c24c805fa6e8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080505102016.081a243d@gb7tf>

On Mon, 5 May 2008 08:36:25 +0200
"Christian Walther" <cptsalek@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> 
> 2008/5/5 Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk>:
> >
> >  Hi
> >  trying to load openoffice and I need
> >
> >  -JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.0" to obtain the
> >   time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_0-2007h.zip.
> >  I've registered an acount and I've had the conformation e-mail, but
> >  although I can log into the developers page, it wont let me
> >  in on this page
> >  http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
> >  It knows its me, so the login must be OK but everytime I
> >  hit the continue button, I'm asked to login or register.
> >
> are you probably using Firefox with some extensions, e.g. NoScript,
> and do you per default deny cookies?
> Make sure that cookies are enabled for sun.com and that you allow
> jav/script on sun.com (at least temporarily).
> 
> HTH
> Christian


Hi Christian
I am using firefox, and cookies are being accepted, java script is
enabled on firefox.
I'm getting the same with galeon and epithany
"You must enter a User Name and Password to continue, or click
"Register Now" to create an account." and also 
"	Welcome, Richard | Logout "

I've even checked that I didn't use quotes instead of @ in the user name
as I've got to alter the keyboard settings in X, (UK keyboard)
I know firefox an be a pain sometimes, especially on sites like ebay
with images.


I can log into the developer site, it accepts the user & password
there.Very strange
-- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
www.software-radio.org.uk
##################################################

From bugmaster at FreeBSD.org  Mon May  5 11:07:09 2008
From: bugmaster at FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD bugmaster)
Date: Mon May  5 11:07:19 2008
Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID: <200805051107.m45B78Ya070770@freefall.freebsd.org>

Current FreeBSD problem reports
Critical problems
Serious problems

S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/63204   multimedia [sound] /dev/mixer broken with ESS Maestro-2E (still o
o kern/79905   multimedia [sound] sis7018 sound module problem
o kern/79912   multimedia [sound] sound broken for 2 VIA chipsets: interrupt sto
o kern/81146   multimedia [sound] Sound isn't working AT ALL for Sis7012 onboard
o kern/82043   multimedia [sound] snd_emu10k1 - mixer does not work.
o kern/94279   multimedia [snd_neomagic] snd_neomagic crashes on FreeBSD 5.4 and
o kern/96538   multimedia [sound] emu10k1-driver inverts channels
o kern/97535   multimedia [snd_mss] doesn't work in 6.0-RELEASE and above for Cr
o kern/98167   multimedia [sound] [es137x] [patch] ES1370 mixer volumes incorrec
o kern/98752   multimedia [sound] Intel ich6 82801 FB - on Packard Bell A8810 la
o kern/104626  multimedia [sound] FreeBSD 6.2 does not support SoundBlaster Audi
o kern/104874  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] kldload snd_emu10k1 hangs system
o kern/107051  multimedia [sound] only 2 channels output works for the ALC850 (o
o kern/107516  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] - skips, clicks and lag after a day of h
o kern/114760  multimedia [snd_cmi] snd_cmi driver causing sporadic system hangs
o kern/115666  multimedia [sound] Microphone does not work
o ports/118104 multimedia [PATCH] multimedia/vlc - volume bar position almost in
o kern/119181  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda needs doesn't recognise headphones o
o kern/119759  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] Can not record anything with emu10k1 on 
o kern/120144  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda plays sound on all outputs
o kern/121156  multimedia [sound]: [PATCH] Turn on inverted external amplifier s
o kern/122086  multimedia [sound] maestro sound driver is working, but mixer ini
o ports/122305 multimedia multimedia/gstreame - gst-inspect-0.10 hangs when chec
o ports/123327 multimedia Port fix: graphics/libcaca - CONFIGURE_ENV incorrectly

24 problems total.

Non-critical problems

S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/23546   multimedia [snd_csa] [patch] csa DMA-interrupt problem
o kern/37600   multimedia [sound] [partial patch] t4dwave drive doesn't record.
s kern/60599   multimedia [bktr] [partial patch] No sound for ATI TV Wonder (ste
o kern/60677   multimedia [sound] [patch] No reaction of volume controy key on I
o kern/72995   multimedia [sound] Intel ICH2 (82801BA) - sound nearly inaudible
o kern/79678   multimedia [sound] sound works except recording from any source
f kern/80465   multimedia [sound] pcm0:record:0: record interrupt timeout (Acer 
o kern/80632   multimedia [sound] pcm driver missing support for CMI8738 auxilla
s kern/83697   multimedia [snd_mss] [patch] support, docs added for full-duplex,
o kern/87782   multimedia [sound] snd_t4dwave and pcm0:record:0: record interrup
o kern/92512   multimedia [sound] distorted mono output with emu10k1
o kern/93986   multimedia [sound] Acer TravelMate 4652LMi pcm0 channel dead
o kern/95086   multimedia [sound] uaudio line in problem with sbdm lx
o kern/97609   multimedia [sound] Load Sound Module - VIA8233 - fails
o kern/98496   multimedia [snd_ich] some functions don't work in my sound kernel
o kern/98504   multimedia [sound] Sound is distorted with SB Live 5.1
o kern/100859  multimedia [snd_ich] snd_ich broken on GIGABYTE 915 system
o kern/101417  multimedia [sound] 4-speakers output not possible on Asus A8V-Del
o kern/111767  multimedia [sound] ATI SB450 High Definition Audio Controller sou
s kern/113950  multimedia [sound] [patch] [request] add per-vchan mixer support
f ports/114573 multimedia multimedia/vlc-devel doesn't compile when the QT4 opti
o kern/115300  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda(4) fails to attach on -CURRENT [regr
o kern/117599  multimedia [sound] Audio routing problem NVIDIA MCP51 HDA
o kern/117729  multimedia [snd_hda] microphone is not working with snd_hda on Fr
o ports/117810 multimedia multimedia/vlc-devel port could be compiled with lua m
o ports/117824 multimedia CONFIGURE_LINE truncated to 2048 chars in [at least] m
o ports/118168 multimedia [patch] multimedia/transcode - Add WITHOUT_X11 and WIT
o ports/118237 multimedia Ports: multimedia/ffmpeg fix configure option and add 
o ports/118289 multimedia port of multimedia/tovid only semi works on 6.2 Releas
o kern/119671  multimedia [snd_hda] line is mic and mic is line on Fujitsu Sieme
o kern/119931  multimedia [sound] No sound card detected on ASUS "K8V-X SE R2.00
o kern/119973  multimedia [snd_maestro] snd_maestro only works after reload [reg
o kern/120780  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda doesn't work on Dell Latitutude D530
o kern/120857  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] snd_emu10k1 driver issues a warning on u
o ports/121662 multimedia graphics/libcaca - not bumped after imlib2 upgrade
o ports/122899 multimedia [PATCH] audio/liba52: powerpc build requires -fPIC
o ports/122922 multimedia [ patch ] multimedia/ffmpeg text output is mangled
o ports/122967 multimedia Port fix: multimedia/y4mscaler - Define missing symbol
o ports/122984 multimedia Port fix: multimedia/dirac-reference - Fix pkg-plist
o ports/123409 multimedia [Patch] ports:multimedia/ffmpeg fix WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFL

40 problems total.

From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Mon May  5 11:22:24 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Mon May  5 11:22:27 2008
Subject: delta 66 sound card
Message-ID: <20080505122222.136c5fe3@gb7tf>


Sorry me again

I've a M-Audio Delta 66 card fitted, its the same as a delta44 but with
2 extra spdif connectors.
It uses the snd_envy24 driver
gb7tf# cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2007061600/amd64)
Installed devices:
pcm0: <Envy24 audio (Generic)> at io
0xec00:32,0xe880:16,0xe800:16,0xe480:64 irq 16 [MPSAFE] (5p:1v/4r:1v
channels duplex default)
snd_driver is also loaded
dm is gnome.
I've stated amarok and used a stream to test it  and not a peep out.
the gnome volume control looks nothing like I've seen before.
that card has 16 channels, it only shows one.
and if you select change device all thats there is unknown OSS device.
I could load portaudio and use pa_devs to list the sound devices, but
rather at this moment not load portaudio-v19 as that will be included in
another package, wsjt.
The main reason for leaving linux, MDV2008.1, was lib handling and
linking.  So I want to avoid having loaded two versions of the same
package.

Is anyone else using this card ?

Three further questions :
whats the FreeBSD version/equivalent of slocate or mlocate , 
does updatedb need additional  params as I get 
gb7tf# updatedb
updatedb: Command not found.

And whats the FreeBSD equivalent of lsmod, list loaded modules

I did try to use qjackctl to see if there was any indication of an
active sound module, but it crashed the system and I had to use fsck to 
fix it
TIA
-- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
www.software-radio.org.uk
##################################################

From freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com  Mon May  5 15:32:06 2008
From: freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com (Dieter)
Date: Mon May  5 15:32:11 2008
Subject: delta 66 sound card 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 05 May 2008 12:22:22 BST."
	<20080505122222.136c5fe3@gb7tf> 
Message-ID: <200805051530.PAA23684@sopwith.solgatos.com>

> And whats the FreeBSD equivalent of lsmod, list loaded modules

kldstat

See also kldload kldunload kldconfig loader.conf
From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Mon May  5 19:26:04 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Mon May  5 19:26:08 2008
Subject: delta 66 audio~more info
Message-ID: <20080505202602.22ea00f4@gb7tf>

Hi
I've downloaded and installed the oss-freebsd7-v4.0-1015-amd64.tbz
package, its recognised my sound card correctly , but nothing from
osstest.
just this :-
Sound subsystem and version: OSS 4.0 (b071011/200802121919) (0x00040003)
Platform: FreeBSD/amd64 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24
10:35:36 UTC 2008
root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC


NOTICE! You don't have any audio devices available.
        It looks like your audio hardware was not recognized
        by OSS. Please contact 4Front technologies for help
        (http://www.opensound.com/support.cgi). Don't forget to
        include your soundon.log file to the support request.

I don't believe that as after it built it said I had a M-Audio Delta
66 card,
Also. if I right click on the Volume control icon , Top RH Corner on
the panel in Gnome, I get a "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or
devices found." message.
There was a cut down version of something there before.
I'm not expecting the USB audio onboard audio to work, its only  just
got going with ALSA.

I'd look a the soundon.log file if I could find it, so far I havn't
discovered the FreeBSD equivilent of the linux "updatedb"

Also. I'm getting problem with Amarok, it'll start to play , but as
every caption appears it stalls, jumps to the end of the track and
crashes, I also saw something similar with Totem on video.
Kaffeine does similar continually stalling, and not a squeak of sound
out of anything
After a reboot I've run osstest and get this:-
$ osstest
Sound subsystem and version: FreeBSD native OSS ABI 700055 (0x00040000)
Platform: FreeBSD/amd64 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24
10:35:36 UTC 2008
root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
SNDCTL_AUDIOINFO_EX: Device not configured SNDCTL_AUDIOINFO_EX: Device
not configured SNDCTL_AUDIOINFO_EX: Device not configured
SNDCTL_AUDIOINFO_EX: Device not configured SNDCTL_AUDIOINFO_EX: Device
not configured SNDCTL_AUDIOINFO_EX: Device not configured
SNDCTL_AUDIOINFO_EX: Device not configured
SNDCTL_AUDIOINFO_EX: Device not configured
SNDCTL_AUDIOINFO_EX: Device not configured
SNDCTL_AUDIOINFO_EX: Device not configured
SNDCTL_AUDIOINFO_EX: Device not configured

*** All tests completed OK ***

gb7tf# cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2007061600/amd64)
Installed devices:
pcm0: <Envy24 audio (Generic)> at io
0xec00:32,0xe880:16,0xe800:16,0xe480:64 irq 16 [MPSAFE] (5p:1v/4r:1v
channels duplex default)

gb7tf# kldstat
Id Refs Address            Size     Name
 1    5 0xffffffff80100000 ac6c08   kernel
 2    1 0xffffffff80bc7000 a698     snd_envy24.ko
 3    3 0xffffffff80bd2000 673b8    sound.ko
 4    2 0xffffffff80c3a000 1c58     snd_spicds.ko
 5    1 0xffffffffb1896000 988b     ipfw.ko


Do I need to make an entry in /boot/device.hints  ?

If so any chance as a hint towards what please

I may have portaudio installed, sysinstall thinks so, where can I find
the binaries to run pa_devs ???
-- 
TIA &

Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
www.software-radio.org.uk
##################################################

From shoesoft at gmx.net  Mon May  5 19:48:22 2008
From: shoesoft at gmx.net (Stefan Ehmann)
Date: Mon May  5 19:48:25 2008
Subject: delta 66 sound card
In-Reply-To: <20080505122222.136c5fe3@gb7tf>
References: <20080505122222.136c5fe3@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <200805052121.42338.shoesoft@gmx.net>

On Monday 05 May 2008 13:22:22 Richard Bown wrote:
> Sorry me again
>
> I've a M-Audio Delta 66 card fitted, its the same as a delta44 but with
> 2 extra spdif connectors.
> It uses the snd_envy24 driver
> gb7tf# cat /dev/sndstat
> FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2007061600/amd64)
> Installed devices:
> pcm0: <Envy24 audio (Generic)> at io
> 0xec00:32,0xe880:16,0xe800:16,0xe480:64 irq 16 [MPSAFE] (5p:1v/4r:1v
> channels duplex default)
> snd_driver is also loaded
> dm is gnome.
> I've stated amarok and used a stream to test it  and not a peep out.

Maybe you should try something simpler like mplayer or flac123/mpg321 for 
testing.

Are your mixer levels set to max?
The output of the "mixer" command should show vol and pcm at 100.

If this doesn't help, there's probably something missing in the driver.

Alternatively you can install audio/oss from ports which lists "M Audio Delta 
66" as supported. Note that you need to unload any sound modules first.

> Is anyone else using this card ?
>
> Three further questions :
> whats the FreeBSD version/equivalent of slocate or mlocate ,
> does updatedb need additional  params as I get
> gb7tf# updatedb
> updatedb: Command not found.

I usually run /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate if I want to force an update of 
the locatedb. See updatedb(8) for details.

-- 
HTH,
Stefan
From shoesoft at gmx.net  Mon May  5 20:33:07 2008
From: shoesoft at gmx.net (Stefan Ehmann)
Date: Mon May  5 20:33:12 2008
Subject: delta 66 audio~more info
In-Reply-To: <20080505202602.22ea00f4@gb7tf>
References: <20080505202602.22ea00f4@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <200805052233.09089.shoesoft@gmx.net>

On Monday 05 May 2008 21:26:02 Richard Bown wrote:
> Hi
> I've downloaded and installed the oss-freebsd7-v4.0-1015-amd64.tbz
> package, its recognised my sound card correctly , but nothing from
> osstest.
> just this :-
...
> FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2007061600/amd64)
> Installed devices:
> pcm0: <Envy24 audio (Generic)> at io
> 0xec00:32,0xe880:16,0xe800:16,0xe480:64 irq 16 [MPSAFE] (5p:1v/4r:1v
> channels duplex default)
>
> gb7tf# kldstat
> Id Refs Address            Size     Name
>  1    5 0xffffffff80100000 ac6c08   kernel
>  2    1 0xffffffff80bc7000 a698     snd_envy24.ko
>  3    3 0xffffffff80bd2000 673b8    sound.ko
>  4    2 0xffffffff80c3a000 1c58     snd_spicds.ko
>  5    1 0xffffffffb1896000 988b     ipfw.ko


As noted in my other mail: You must not load any of the FreeBSD builtin sound 
modules (sound.ko, snd_envy24.ko, snd_spicds.ko) in order to make the 
opensound drivers working.
From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Mon May  5 21:20:13 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Mon May  5 21:20:18 2008
Subject: delta 66 audio~more info
In-Reply-To: <200805052233.09089.shoesoft@gmx.net>
References: <20080505202602.22ea00f4@gb7tf>
	<200805052233.09089.shoesoft@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20080505222011.5593d171@gb7tf>

On Mon, 5 May 2008 22:33:08 +0200
Stefan Ehmann <shoesoft@gmx.net> wrote:

> On Monday 05 May 2008 21:26:02 Richard Bown wrote:
> > Hi
> > I've downloaded and installed the oss-freebsd7-v4.0-1015-amd64.tbz
> > package, its recognised my sound card correctly , but nothing from
> > osstest.
> > just this :-
> ...
> > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2007061600/amd64)
> > Installed devices:
> > pcm0: <Envy24 audio (Generic)> at io
> > 0xec00:32,0xe880:16,0xe800:16,0xe480:64 irq 16 [MPSAFE] (5p:1v/4r:1v
> > channels duplex default)
> >
> > gb7tf# kldstat
> > Id Refs Address            Size     Name
> >  1    5 0xffffffff80100000 ac6c08   kernel
> >  2    1 0xffffffff80bc7000 a698     snd_envy24.ko
> >  3    3 0xffffffff80bd2000 673b8    sound.ko
> >  4    2 0xffffffff80c3a000 1c58     snd_spicds.ko
> >  5    1 0xffffffffb1896000 988b     ipfw.ko
> 
> 
> As noted in my other mail: You must not load any of the FreeBSD
> builtin sound modules (sound.ko, snd_envy24.ko, snd_spicds.ko) in
> order to make the opensound drivers working

Sorry Stefan I missed that, now removed
 kldstat
Id Refs Address            Size     Name
 1    2 0xffffffff80100000 ac6c08   kernel
 2    1 0xffffffffb17d5000 988b     ipfw.ko

I can see /usr/lib/oss/modules/envy24.ko but how do I load that module
instead of the FreeBSD module of the same name.
I guess I need to load /usr/lib/oss/modules/osscore.ko as well  ??

-- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
www.software-radio.org.uk
##################################################

From shoesoft at gmx.net  Tue May  6 00:53:15 2008
From: shoesoft at gmx.net (Stefan Ehmann)
Date: Tue May  6 00:53:17 2008
Subject: delta 66 audio~more info
In-Reply-To: <20080505222011.5593d171@gb7tf>
References: <20080505202602.22ea00f4@gb7tf>
	<200805052233.09089.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080505222011.5593d171@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <200805060253.12267.shoesoft@gmx.net>

On Monday 05 May 2008 23:20:11 Richard Bown wrote:
> On Mon, 5 May 2008 22:33:08 +0200
>
> Stefan Ehmann <shoesoft@gmx.net> wrote:
> > On Monday 05 May 2008 21:26:02 Richard Bown wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > I've downloaded and installed the oss-freebsd7-v4.0-1015-amd64.tbz
> > > package, its recognised my sound card correctly , but nothing from
> > > osstest.
> > > just this :-
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2007061600/amd64)
> > > Installed devices:
> > > pcm0: <Envy24 audio (Generic)> at io
> > > 0xec00:32,0xe880:16,0xe800:16,0xe480:64 irq 16 [MPSAFE] (5p:1v/4r:1v
> > > channels duplex default)
> > >
> > > gb7tf# kldstat
> > > Id Refs Address            Size     Name
> > >  1    5 0xffffffff80100000 ac6c08   kernel
> > >  2    1 0xffffffff80bc7000 a698     snd_envy24.ko
> > >  3    3 0xffffffff80bd2000 673b8    sound.ko
> > >  4    2 0xffffffff80c3a000 1c58     snd_spicds.ko
> > >  5    1 0xffffffffb1896000 988b     ipfw.ko
> >
> > As noted in my other mail: You must not load any of the FreeBSD
> > builtin sound modules (sound.ko, snd_envy24.ko, snd_spicds.ko) in
> > order to make the opensound drivers working
>
> Sorry Stefan I missed that, now removed
>  kldstat
> Id Refs Address            Size     Name
>  1    2 0xffffffff80100000 ac6c08   kernel
>  2    1 0xffffffffb17d5000 988b     ipfw.ko
>
> I can see /usr/lib/oss/modules/envy24.ko but how do I load that module
> instead of the FreeBSD module of the same name.
> I guess I need to load /usr/lib/oss/modules/osscore.ko as well  ??


Haven't used the opensound drivers for a while. The init scripts should load 
the modules on startup normally.

AFAIK you can start the driver with the "soundon" command manually.
From tevans.uk at googlemail.com  Tue May  6 11:29:59 2008
From: tevans.uk at googlemail.com (Tom Evans)
Date: Tue May  6 11:30:04 2008
Subject: Problems with V7.0
In-Reply-To: <20080504085859.7d1a05ee@gb7tf.ath.cx>
References: <20080503125041.0025aece@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<BAY113-W5300000582F6C302A53E8EA1D50@phx.gbl>
	<20080504085859.7d1a05ee@gb7tf.ath.cx>
Message-ID: <1210071647.27474.9.camel@localhost>


On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 08:58 +0100, Richard-1 wrote:
> HI Rick
> Thanks for the info,
> I'll put my comments art the end of the mail, Mandriva's back port of 
> claws-mail doesn't put the original mail in quotes.
 
Which made the context unsalvagable :)

AFAICT there are no DVB-T drivers for FreeBSD. Some of the analogue
cards/analogue parts of hybrid cards have support. It's keeping
my-under-the-tv box running linux unfortunately :/

Tom
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From lars.engels at 0x20.net  Tue May  6 12:06:23 2008
From: lars.engels at 0x20.net (Lars Engels)
Date: Tue May  6 12:06:30 2008
Subject: Problems with V7.0
In-Reply-To: <1210071647.27474.9.camel@localhost>
References: <20080503125041.0025aece@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<BAY113-W5300000582F6C302A53E8EA1D50@phx.gbl>
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	<1210071647.27474.9.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <20080506140621.qexlv6podckog8ko@0x20.net>

Quoting Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com>:

>
> On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 08:58 +0100, Richard-1 wrote:
>> HI Rick
>> Thanks for the info,
>> I'll put my comments art the end of the mail, Mandriva's back port of
>> claws-mail doesn't put the original mail in quotes.
>
> Which made the context unsalvagable :)
>
> AFAICT there are no DVB-T drivers for FreeBSD. Some of the analogue
> cards/analogue parts of hybrid cards have support. It's keeping
> my-under-the-tv box running linux unfortunately :/
>
> Tom
>

Actually, there is one:
http://raaf.atspace.org/dvbusb/
Which works pretty well.


-- 
Lars Engels
E-Mail: lars.engels@0x20.net
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From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Tue May  6 12:06:47 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Tue May  6 12:06:51 2008
Subject: Problems with V7.0
In-Reply-To: <1210071647.27474.9.camel@localhost>
References: <20080503125041.0025aece@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<BAY113-W5300000582F6C302A53E8EA1D50@phx.gbl>
	<20080504085859.7d1a05ee@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<1210071647.27474.9.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <20080506130645.586be6a4@gb7tf>

On Tue, 06 May 2008 12:00:47 +0100
Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com> wrote:

> 
> On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 08:58 +0100, Richard-1 wrote:
> > HI Rick
> > Thanks for the info,
> > I'll put my comments art the end of the mail, Mandriva's back port
> > of claws-mail doesn't put the original mail in quotes.
>  
> Which made the context unsalvagable :)
> 
> AFAICT there are no DVB-T drivers for FreeBSD. Some of the analogue
> cards/analogue parts of hybrid cards have support. It's keeping
> my-under-the-tv box running linux unfortunately :/
> 
> Tom
Hi Tom

in the mail from Rick Nekus, he mentions
"
-For the conexant/Huappage stuff check out the "pvrxxx" FreeBSD port and/or serch the subject threads here.
I have a Hauppage PVR-350 thats workin great on FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE, although I havent checked in a year or so :)
"
But looking at the Hauppauge site , although it has a mpeg2 decoder, its
used on record & playback.
We still have analog TV here for the next three years, so I could put
an analog card back in.
What I am finding a little surprising is the difference between
supported devices between FreeBSD and the variety of linux Distros.
OK the number of users is a lot lower, but maybe something like
ndiswrapper so that linux drivers could be used , wouldn't be a bad
idea,
and probably not too difficult..
Both DVB-T and DVB-S are going to be important to get going especially
now so many countries are changing over to it.
-- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
www.software-radio.org.uk
##################################################

From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Tue May  6 12:17:41 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Tue May  6 12:17:44 2008
Subject: Problems with V7.0
In-Reply-To: <20080506140621.qexlv6podckog8ko@0x20.net>
References: <20080503125041.0025aece@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<BAY113-W5300000582F6C302A53E8EA1D50@phx.gbl>
	<20080504085859.7d1a05ee@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<1210071647.27474.9.camel@localhost>
	<20080506140621.qexlv6podckog8ko@0x20.net>
Message-ID: <20080506131740.646747e7@gb7tf>

On Tue, 06 May 2008 14:06:21 +0200
Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net> wrote:

> Quoting Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com>:
> 
> >
> > On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 08:58 +0100, Richard-1 wrote:
> >> HI Rick
> >> Thanks for the info,
> >> I'll put my comments art the end of the mail, Mandriva's back port
> >> of claws-mail doesn't put the original mail in quotes.
> >
> > Which made the context unsalvagable :)
> >
> > AFAICT there are no DVB-T drivers for FreeBSD. Some of the analogue
> > cards/analogue parts of hybrid cards have support. It's keeping
> > my-under-the-tv box running linux unfortunately :/
> >
> > Tom
> >
> 
> Actually, there is one:
> http://raaf.atspace.org/dvbusb/
> Which works pretty well.
> 
> 
There's also the pwc driver there so I can now get the webcam working :)

-- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
www.software-radio.org.uk
##################################################

From lars.engels at 0x20.net  Tue May  6 12:44:36 2008
From: lars.engels at 0x20.net (Lars Engels)
Date: Tue May  6 12:44:38 2008
Subject: Problems with V7.0
In-Reply-To: <20080506131740.646747e7@gb7tf>
References: <20080503125041.0025aece@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<BAY113-W5300000582F6C302A53E8EA1D50@phx.gbl>
	<20080504085859.7d1a05ee@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<1210071647.27474.9.camel@localhost>
	<20080506140621.qexlv6podckog8ko@0x20.net>
	<20080506131740.646747e7@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <20080506144435.3hd10c4g00w80koo@0x20.net>

Quoting Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk>:

> On Tue, 06 May 2008 14:06:21 +0200
> Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net> wrote:
>
>> Quoting Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com>:
>>
>> >
>> > On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 08:58 +0100, Richard-1 wrote:
>> >> HI Rick
>> >> Thanks for the info,
>> >> I'll put my comments art the end of the mail, Mandriva's back port
>> >> of claws-mail doesn't put the original mail in quotes.
>> >
>> > Which made the context unsalvagable :)
>> >
>> > AFAICT there are no DVB-T drivers for FreeBSD. Some of the analogue
>> > cards/analogue parts of hybrid cards have support. It's keeping
>> > my-under-the-tv box running linux unfortunately :/
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
>>
>> Actually, there is one:
>> http://raaf.atspace.org/dvbusb/
>> Which works pretty well.
>>
>>
> There's also the pwc driver there so I can now get the webcam working :)
>

No need to download it from there. There's already a port: multimedia/pwcbsd.
Though you can use raaf's patches to get the cam working with some apps.
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From eculp at encontacto.net  Tue May  6 14:30:37 2008
From: eculp at encontacto.net (eculp)
Date: Tue May  6 14:30:42 2008
Subject: Specific problems with OSS and sound in general with HDA ALC268
Message-ID: <20080506093023.198953dpfb1fv7k0@intranet.encontacto.net>

My Aspire Laptop 5520-5679 has issues with both hda and OSS.

With hda I get no response from the builtin microphone or the  
microphone jack and the mixer only shows playback controls.

With OSS and skype-devel I get "problem with audio playback" so I  
haven't even checked the microphone yet.  Basically I only use it for  
skype so it would seem that neither uses the mike and at least hda  
does playback well. Youtube.com, as an example, that oss just locks up  
firefox on playback.

The current configuration with OSS shows:

# kldstat
Id Refs Address            Size     Name
  1   10 0xffffffff80100000 9cf348   kernel (/boot/kernel/kernel)
  2    1 0xffffffff80ad0000 13a18    pwc.ko (/boot/modules/pwc.ko)
  3    3 0xffffffffac874000 7a56a    osscore.ko  
(/usr/local/lib/oss/modules/osscore.ko)
  4    1 0xffffffffac8ef000 1ec4a    hdaudio.ko  
(/usr/local/lib/oss/modules/hdaudio.ko)
  5    1 0xffffffffac91b000 7d0      vmix.ko  
(/usr/local/lib/oss/modules/vmix.ko)

# ossrecord /root/test.wav gives me:
   /dev/dsp: Permission denied

osstest has errors that can be seen at:
   http://encontacto.net/SHARE/osstest.aspire.txt

ossinfo doesn't show the microphone, either.
   http://encontacto.net/SHARE/ossinfo.aspire.txt

If it can help the verbose dmesg can be seen at:
   http://encontacto.net/SHARE/ossinfo.aspire.txt

Help to get either working with my acer aspire would be appreciated.

I am running:
# uname -a
FreeBSD ed.local.net.mx 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #98: Mon May   
5 04:43:54 CDT 2008      
root@ed.local.net.mx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO  amd64

Tnanks,

ed
From tevans.uk at googlemail.com  Tue May  6 15:10:28 2008
From: tevans.uk at googlemail.com (Tom Evans)
Date: Tue May  6 15:10:32 2008
Subject: Problems with V7.0
In-Reply-To: <20080506130645.586be6a4@gb7tf>
References: <20080503125041.0025aece@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<BAY113-W5300000582F6C302A53E8EA1D50@phx.gbl>
	<20080504085859.7d1a05ee@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<1210071647.27474.9.camel@localhost>
	<20080506130645.586be6a4@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <1210086621.27474.18.camel@localhost>


On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 13:06 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> On Tue, 06 May 2008 12:00:47 +0100
> Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 08:58 +0100, Richard-1 wrote:
> > > HI Rick
> > > Thanks for the info,
> > > I'll put my comments art the end of the mail, Mandriva's back port
> > > of claws-mail doesn't put the original mail in quotes.
> >  
> > Which made the context unsalvagable :)
> > 
> > AFAICT there are no DVB-T drivers for FreeBSD. Some of the analogue
> > cards/analogue parts of hybrid cards have support. It's keeping
> > my-under-the-tv box running linux unfortunately :/
> > 
> > Tom
> Hi Tom
> 
> in the mail from Rick Nekus, he mentions
> "
> -For the conexant/Huappage stuff check out the "pvrxxx" FreeBSD port and/or serch the subject threads here.
> I have a Hauppage PVR-350 thats workin great on FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE, although I havent checked in a year or so :)
> "
> But looking at the Hauppauge site , although it has a mpeg2 decoder, its
> used on record & playback.
> We still have analog TV here for the next three years, so I could put
> an analog card back in.
> What I am finding a little surprising is the difference between
> supported devices between FreeBSD and the variety of linux Distros.
> OK the number of users is a lot lower, but maybe something like
> ndiswrapper so that linux drivers could be used , wouldn't be a bad
> idea,
> and probably not too difficult..
> Both DVB-T and DVB-S are going to be important to get going especially
> now so many countries are changing over to it.

You should remember the 'main aim' of FreeBSD is to support services, so
DVB-T, which became important in Linux because of the large number of
desktop users asking/developing such features, would not be such a high
priority in BSD.

Of course, the number one priority in FOSS is 'what do I want to work
on', and if someone with enough desire and skill decides they do want to
work on it, then it will be done.... otherwise it probably won't :)

Tom
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From db at db.net  Tue May  6 16:37:10 2008
From: db at db.net (Diane Bruce)
Date: Tue May  6 16:37:12 2008
Subject: Problems with V7.0
In-Reply-To: <1210086621.27474.18.camel@localhost>
References: <20080503125041.0025aece@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<BAY113-W5300000582F6C302A53E8EA1D50@phx.gbl>
	<20080504085859.7d1a05ee@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<1210071647.27474.9.camel@localhost>
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Message-ID: <20080506155748.GA67105@night.db.net>

On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 04:10:21PM +0100, Tom Evans wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 13:06 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> > On Tue, 06 May 2008 12:00:47 +0100
> > Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com> wrote:
...
>
> You should remember the 'main aim' of FreeBSD is to support services, so
> DVB-T, which became important in Linux because of the large number of
> desktop users asking/developing such features, would not be such a high
> priority in BSD.

This is becoming less and less true, looking at www.pcbsd.org
and www.desktopbsd.net as examples.

I'm using FreeBSD 7.0 as a desktop with the ULE scheduler and
PCBSD as a hamradio desktop. It's changing.

> Of course, the number one priority in FOSS is 'what do I want to work
> on', and if someone with enough desire and skill decides they do want to
> work on it, then it will be done.... otherwise it probably won't :)

And I see the work is being done. My focus (and Xride's focus; plus
the contributors to the ports tree) hav been on making hamradio
apps very viable and useful on FreeBSD.

http://www.freshports.org/hamradio
http://www.db.net/hamfreesbie

- 73 Diane VA3DB ;-)
--
- db@FreeBSD.org db@db.net http://www.db.net/~db
From steve at sohara.org  Tue May  6 18:36:38 2008
From: steve at sohara.org (Steve O'Hara-Smith)
Date: Tue May  6 18:36:42 2008
Subject: Problems with V7.0
In-Reply-To: <20080506155748.GA67105@night.db.net>
References: <20080503125041.0025aece@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<BAY113-W5300000582F6C302A53E8EA1D50@phx.gbl>
	<20080504085859.7d1a05ee@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<1210071647.27474.9.camel@localhost>
	<20080506130645.586be6a4@gb7tf>
	<1210086621.27474.18.camel@localhost>
	<20080506155748.GA67105@night.db.net>
Message-ID: <20080506193635.764a85f1.steve@sohara.org>

On Tue, 6 May 2008 11:57:48 -0400
Diane Bruce <db@db.net> wrote:

> This is becoming less and less true, looking at www.pcbsd.org
> and www.desktopbsd.net as examples.
> 
> I'm using FreeBSD 7.0 as a desktop with the ULE scheduler and
> PCBSD as a hamradio desktop. It's changing.

	If it comes to that I've been using FreeBSD <1-4>.<several> as a
workstation since 1994 and as a music player, TV and PVR as long ago as
2002 (OK it was November 2002 before I got all the A/V sync issues under
control in ffmpeg).

-- 
C:>WIN                                      |   Directable Mirror Arrays
The computer obeys and wins.                | A better way to focus the sun
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    licences available see
                                            |    http://www.sohara.org/
From kutizs at t-online.hu  Tue May  6 18:44:59 2008
From: kutizs at t-online.hu (Zsolt =?ISO-8859-2?Q?K=FAti?=)
Date: Tue May  6 18:45:03 2008
Subject: k3b problem with DVD
Message-ID: <20080506202530.0df2f791@brain>

Hello,

With no reaction from the questions list I try it here.

For long  I use k3b with great satisfaction.
On a recent new system however it has serious problem with handling
DVD-s. While it works with CD-s, as soon as DVD disc is placed into the
drive it starts to emit error messages[1].  From this on (and even
after  stopping/killing it ) the system displays an extreme high
interrupt activity (~50%) while CPU usage remains low. Ejecting the
disc has no effect on k3b it no longer works even with CD-s. If the DVD
is put before k3b start, k3b does not start for a long time (~ 15
minutes), then reports no proble with system configuration, show dvd
device info on console, but can't handle the DVD disc.

Mounting of DVDs by hal/thunar-volman/dbus/policykit works. I can play
the dvd with mplayer, too.

My system is:
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #5
k3b-1.0.4_1
The PIO device's firmware was upgraded to he latest with no effect.

Excerpt from dmesg:
acd0: DVDR <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-215D/1.18> at ata4-master SATA150
pcm0: <HDA Codec: Realtek ALC883>
pcm0: <HDA Driver Revision: 20071129_0050>
acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00 sks=0x48
0x00 0x01 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
cd0 at ata3 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
cd0: <PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-215D 1.18> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device 
cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers
cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present


Any suggestion to solve this is highly appreciated!
Thanks!
Zsolt

P.s: Please CC to me, as I am not on the list. Thanks!


[1]
...
k3b: (K3bExternalBinManager) Cdrecord 2.1 features: gracetime,
overburn, cdtext, clone, tao, cuefile, xamix, plain-atapi,
hacked-atapi, audio-stdin, burnfree k3b: (K3bExternalBinManager) 2 1
-1  seems to be cdrecord version >= 1.11a02, using burnfree instead of
burnproof k3b: (K3bExternalBinManager) seems to be cdrecord version >=
1.11a31, support for Just Link via burnfree driveroption
(BSDDeviceScan) number of matches 18 (BSDDeviceScan) periph: pass0
(BSDDeviceScan) periph: cd0 (BSDDeviceScan) add device /dev/cd0:4:0:0
(/dev/pass0) (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0: init()
(K3bDevice::openDevice) open device /dev/pass0 succeeded.
(K3bDevice::openDevice) open device /dev/pass0 succeeded.
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 12, length: 6
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0 feature: CD Mastering
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0 feature: CD Track At Once
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0 feature: CD-RW Media Write Support
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0 feature: DVD Read (MMC5)
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0 feature: DVD+R (K3bDevice::ScsiCommand)
transport command 46, length: 10 (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0 feature:
DVD+RW (K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0 feature: DVD+R Double Layer
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0 feature: DVD-R/-RW Write
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0 feature: Rigid Restricted Overwrite
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0 feature: Layer Jump Recording
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::openDevice) open device /dev/pass0 succeeded.
(K3bDevice::openDevice) open device /dev/pass0 succeeded.
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 5a, length: 10
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 5a, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0: dataLen: 60
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0: checking for TAO
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 55, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0: checking for SAO
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 55, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0: checking for SAO_R96P
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 55, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0: checking for SAO_R96R
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 55, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0: checking for RAW_R16
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 55, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0: checking for RAW_R96P
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 55, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0: checking for RAW_R96R
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 55, length: 10
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 5a, length: 10
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 5a, length: 10
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 0, length: 6
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command ad, length: 12
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command ad, length: 12
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 0, length: 6
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 46, length: 10
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command ad, length: 12
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command ad, length: 12
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command ac, length: 12
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport failed (4): 0
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) failed: 
                           command:    GET PERFORMANCE (ac)
                           errorcode:  0
                           sense key:  NO SENSE (2)
                           asc:        0
                           ascq:       0
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0: GET PERFORMANCE length det failed.
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 5a, length: 10
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport failed (4): 0
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) failed: 
                           command:    MODE SENSE (5a)
                           errorcode:  0
                           sense key:  NO SENSE (2)
                           asc:        0
                           ascq:       0
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0: MODE SENSE length det failed.
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 5a, length: 10
(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/cd0: MODE SENSE with real length 65535 failed.
(K3bDevice::DeviceManager) setting current write speed of
device /dev/cd0 to 0 k3b: [void K3bMediaCache::clearDeviceList()] 
(K3bDevice::DeviceManager) found config entry for devicetype: PIONEER
DVD-RW  DVR-215D
(K3bDevice::openDevice) open device /dev/pass0 succeeded.
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 0, length: 6
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport failed (4): 0
(K3bDevice::openDevice) open device /dev/pass0 succeeded.
(K3bDevice::openDevice) open device /dev/pass0 succeeded.
(K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) transport command 0, length: 6
From tevans.uk at googlemail.com  Wed May  7 08:31:17 2008
From: tevans.uk at googlemail.com (Tom Evans)
Date: Wed May  7 08:31:21 2008
Subject: Problems with V7.0
In-Reply-To: <20080506155748.GA67105@night.db.net>
References: <20080503125041.0025aece@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<BAY113-W5300000582F6C302A53E8EA1D50@phx.gbl>
	<20080504085859.7d1a05ee@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<1210071647.27474.9.camel@localhost>
	<20080506130645.586be6a4@gb7tf> <1210086621.27474.18.camel@localhost>
	<20080506155748.GA67105@night.db.net>
Message-ID: <1210149072.27474.34.camel@localhost>


On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 11:57 -0400, Diane Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 04:10:21PM +0100, Tom Evans wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 13:06 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> > > On Tue, 06 May 2008 12:00:47 +0100
> > > Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com> wrote:
> ...
> >
> > You should remember the 'main aim' of FreeBSD is to support services, so
> > DVB-T, which became important in Linux because of the large number of
> > desktop users asking/developing such features, would not be such a high
> > priority in BSD.
> 
> This is becoming less and less true, looking at www.pcbsd.org
> and www.desktopbsd.net as examples.
> 
> I'm using FreeBSD 7.0 as a desktop with the ULE scheduler and
> PCBSD as a hamradio desktop. It's changing.
> 
> > Of course, the number one priority in FOSS is 'what do I want to work
> > on', and if someone with enough desire and skill decides they do want to
> > work on it, then it will be done.... otherwise it probably won't :)
> 
> And I see the work is being done. My focus (and Xride's focus; plus
> the contributors to the ports tree) hav been on making hamradio
> apps very viable and useful on FreeBSD.
> 
> http://www.freshports.org/hamradio
> http://www.db.net/hamfreesbie
> 

Quite :) I also use FreeBSD on the desktop + laptop, have done for past
couple of years. I wasn't trying to say that FreeBSD doesn't make a good
desktop OS, just that if there isn't or hasn't been developers
interested enough in that particular aspect, then driver support will be
lacking. For example, 3ware raid controllers are probably as well
supported on FreeBSD as on Linux, but Phillips webcams (maybe a bad
example - I'm aware of pwcbsd :) probably have more support under Linux.

Even as a competent software developer (C\C++), and having read a good
third (!) of kirk and gnn's excellent 'Design and Implementation of
FreeBSD', I still have no idea of how I would go about porting a driver
supported by v4l-dvb to FreeBSD, and make it work with v4l compliant
apps. This probably shows a lack of enough interest on my part to find
out however.. I may get there eventually :)

It's also the reason I quoted 'main reason' of FreeBSD - there is no
main reason, it is what you make of it.

Tom
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From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed May  7 11:47:59 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Wed May  7 11:48:02 2008
Subject: Problems with V7.0~DVB-T
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	<BAY113-W5300000582F6C302A53E8EA1D50@phx.gbl>
	<20080504085859.7d1a05ee@gb7tf.ath.cx>
	<1210071647.27474.9.camel@localhost>
	<20080506140621.qexlv6podckog8ko@0x20.net>
Message-ID: <20080507124757.39fc0071@gb7tf>

On Tue, 06 May 2008 14:06:21 +0200
Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net> wrote:

> Quoting Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com>:
> 
> >
> > On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 08:58 +0100, Richard-1 wrote:
> >> HI Rick
> >> Thanks for the info,
> >> I'll put my comments art the end of the mail, Mandriva's back port
> >> of claws-mail doesn't put the original mail in quotes.
> >
> > Which made the context unsalvagable :)
> >
> > AFAICT there are no DVB-T drivers for FreeBSD. Some of the analogue
> > cards/analogue parts of hybrid cards have support. It's keeping
> > my-under-the-tv box running linux unfortunately :/
> >
> > Tom
> >
> 
> Actually, there is one:
> http://raaf.atspace.org/dvbusb/
> Which works pretty well.
> 
> 
Lars , I note on the above site that Freecom have changed the version
of their DVB-T USB stick.
Do know what still works with the driver. I know it says see the Linux
wiki, but from experience its not always accurate.
I prefer knowing whos running which that works,

TIA
-- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
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From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed May  7 17:08:56 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Wed May  7 17:09:01 2008
Subject: error codes
Message-ID: <20080507180853.00a23aa1@gb7tf>


can someone please tell me what errors code 1 is or point me
in the direction of the man page or something.
I'm getting it on trying to load k3b and hal

TIA
-- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
www.software-radio.org.uk
##################################################

From torfinn.ingolfsen at broadpark.no  Wed May  7 19:29:27 2008
From: torfinn.ingolfsen at broadpark.no (Torfinn Ingolfsen)
Date: Wed May  7 19:29:32 2008
Subject: error codes
In-Reply-To: <20080507180853.00a23aa1@gb7tf>
References: <20080507180853.00a23aa1@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <20080507202857.f7bb76a0.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no>

On Wed, 07 May 2008 18:08:53 +0100
Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> can someone please tell me what errors code 1 is or point me
> in the direction of the man page or something.
> I'm getting it on trying to load k3b and hal

Try 'man 2 intro'.
HTH
-- 
Regards,
Torfinn Ingolfsen

From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed May  7 19:29:33 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Wed May  7 19:29:38 2008
Subject: upgrade to V8
Message-ID: <20080507202919.47724aea@gb7tf>

Hi
What do I need to change to upgrade to v8,
I'd like to see if that will stop all the error1 messages I'm
getting
gio-fam-backend is in that release

TIA

-- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
www.software-radio.org.uk
##################################################

From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed May  7 19:30:11 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Wed May  7 19:30:16 2008
Subject: error codes
In-Reply-To: <20080507202857.f7bb76a0.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no>
References: <20080507180853.00a23aa1@gb7tf>
	<20080507202857.f7bb76a0.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no>
Message-ID: <20080507203007.5d78f66b@gb7tf>

On Wed, 07 May 2008 20:28:57 +0200
Torfinn Ingolfsen <torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> wrote:

> On Wed, 07 May 2008 18:08:53 +0100
> Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > can someone please tell me what errors code 1 is or point me
> > in the direction of the man page or something.
> > I'm getting it on trying to load k3b and hal
> 
> Try 'man 2 intro'.
> HTH
thanks

-- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
www.software-radio.org.uk
##################################################

From pj at smo.de  Wed May  7 19:33:40 2008
From: pj at smo.de (Philipp Ost)
Date: Wed May  7 19:33:45 2008
Subject: error codes
In-Reply-To: <20080507180853.00a23aa1@gb7tf>
References: <20080507180853.00a23aa1@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <482203CB.1010809@smo.de>

Richard Bown wrote:
> can someone please tell me what errors code 1 is or point me
> in the direction of the man page or something.
> I'm getting it on trying to load k3b and hal


Look here:
/usr/include/sys/errno.h
/usr/include/errno.h

HTH,
Philipp
From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed May  7 19:57:33 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Wed May  7 19:57:38 2008
Subject: error codes
In-Reply-To: <482203CB.1010809@smo.de>
References: <20080507180853.00a23aa1@gb7tf>
	<482203CB.1010809@smo.de>
Message-ID: <20080507205729.44f5feb8@gb7tf>

On Wed, 07 May 2008 21:32:27 +0200
Philipp Ost <pj@smo.de> wrote:

> /usr/include/errno.h

-- 
Thanks, now I'm totally confused, how can a package fail to load due to
permissions, when its being downloaded by the system
instigated by root.
Googling I've found a reference to gnome needing gio-fam-backend
causing error 1 due dependancies
Thats why I've asked about V8 release.
Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
www.software-radio.org.uk
##################################################

From mezz7 at cox.net  Wed May  7 20:13:41 2008
From: mezz7 at cox.net (Jeremy Messenger)
Date: Wed May  7 20:13:46 2008
Subject: error codes
In-Reply-To: <20080507205729.44f5feb8@gb7tf>
References: <20080507180853.00a23aa1@gb7tf> <482203CB.1010809@smo.de>
	<20080507205729.44f5feb8@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <op.uasvefs39aq2h7@mezz.mezzweb.com>

On Wed, 07 May 2008 14:57:29 -0500, Richard Bown  
<richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks, now I'm totally confused, how can a package fail to load due to
> permissions, when its being downloaded by the system
> instigated by root.
> Googling I've found a reference to gnome needing gio-fam-backend
> causing error 1 due dependancies
> Thats why I've asked about V8 release.

Post your full errors and you will get better respone. I am guessing that  
you need to update all of your installed ports (don't forget to check in  
/usr/ports/UPDATING) and try it again.

Cheers,
Mezz

> Best Wishes
> Richard Bown
> ----
> ##################################################
> OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
> HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
> located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
> QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
> www.software-radio.org.uk
> ##################################################



-- 
mezz7@cox.net  -  mezz@FreeBSD.org
FreeBSD GNOME Team
http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/  -  gnome@FreeBSD.org
From fbsd.multimedia at rachie.is-a-geek.net  Wed May  7 20:36:52 2008
From: fbsd.multimedia at rachie.is-a-geek.net (Mel)
Date: Wed May  7 20:36:56 2008
Subject: error codes
In-Reply-To: <20080507205729.44f5feb8@gb7tf>
References: <20080507180853.00a23aa1@gb7tf> <482203CB.1010809@smo.de>
	<20080507205729.44f5feb8@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <200805072219.01644.fbsd.multimedia@rachie.is-a-geek.net>

On Wednesday 07 May 2008 21:57:29 Richard Bown wrote:

> Thanks, now I'm totally confused, how can a package fail to load due to
> permissions, when its being downloaded by the system
> instigated by root.

Read only filesystems is one. File flags is another (see chflags(2)).
EPERM != EACCESS

EPERM relates to /operations/ that are not permitted.
EACCESS relates to access being denied to /resources/ (files/directories but 
also sockets).

-- 
Mel
From tano at adinet.com.uy  Wed May  7 20:55:27 2008
From: tano at adinet.com.uy (Gustavo Pereira)
Date: Wed May  7 20:55:30 2008
Subject: GSPCA driver working under FREEBSD7
Message-ID: <48221413.5080709@adinet.com.uy>

Hi Luigi,

After trying over and over, I was finally able to get the driver to work.
Here is the information

usb_spca5xx_init: gspca driver 01.00.20 registered
ldev0: <vendor 0x046d Camera, class 255/255, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2> on uhub3
ldev_attach: sc at 0xc4505100, l_u_d at 0xc4505158
--- allocate 453 bytes gives 0xc392e600
interface 0 has 14 altsettings (cur 0)
gspca_attach_bridge: USB GSPCA camera found.(SPCA561A)
spca5xx_probe: [spca5xx_probe:4259] Camera type S561
spca5xx_getcapability: [spca5xx_getcapability:1239] maxw 352 maxh 288 
minw 160 minh 120
1990145 [1117] video_register_device: to be fixed but ok for now
ldev0: vendor 0x046d Camera, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2
2035572 [1081] video_devdata: not complete but ok for now
spca561_init: [spca561_init:467] Find spca561 USB Product ID 92c
spca5xx_set_light_freq: [spca5xx_set_light_freq:1920] Sensor currently 
not support light frequency banding filters.
gspca_set_isoc_ep: [gspca_set_isoc_ep:936] ISO EndPoint found 0x81 
AlternateSet 7


All I did was comment out the 'if FREEBSD version > ...' entries in 
module.h and linux_compat.h, and put the code outside of the  if/else/then

Hope it helps,

Thank you for your great work!


Gustavo Pereira   aka Tano
From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed May  7 23:06:11 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Wed May  7 23:06:18 2008
Subject: k3b devices
Message-ID: <20080508000607.724b9fbb@gb7tf>

Hi
I've managed to get k3b to compile I hope with HAL support.
I had to edit the Makefile, as there is no option on the config gui:-

CONFIGURE_ARGS= --with-k3bsetup=yes --without-resmgr --with-hal

Hal is built, but not running.
and I can't see anything in the handbook on manually starting a 
daemon, hald.
At the moment k3b is not seeing the DVD writer, Sony GW120
dual layer.
Even with the drive mounted k3b can't find it.
Does k3b work ?.
This is getting very frustrating, Openffice has been compiling for the
last 5 hrs and still hasn't finish, and knowing my luck it will
probably fail to build again.
So I'm stuck with a system that I can now play music on, the USB flash
stick is not mounting, I can use some Ham apps, I can send e-mail and
receive it, but if I want to save a file on media, either CD or DVD, 
 the only way at the moment is to ftp to a site, reboot
into linux and ftp it back.
I can't write to the ext3 linux partition as its read only
I haven't pluged my camera in to a USB port yet, but I'm beginning to
wonder if the memory cad will be seen.
Suggestions ?
I suspect one will be go back to linux

-- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
www.software-radio.org.uk
##################################################

From eculp at encontacto.net  Wed May  7 23:51:34 2008
From: eculp at encontacto.net (eculp)
Date: Wed May  7 23:51:38 2008
Subject: k3b devices
In-Reply-To: <20080508000607.724b9fbb@gb7tf>
References: <20080508000607.724b9fbb@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <20080507185120.72805156x53jtlcs@intranet.encontacto.net>

Quoting Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk>:

> Hi
> I've managed to get k3b to compile I hope with HAL support.
> I had to edit the Makefile, as there is no option on the config gui:-
>
> CONFIGURE_ARGS= --with-k3bsetup=yes --without-resmgr --with-hal
>
> Hal is built, but not running.
> and I can't see anything in the handbook on manually starting a
> daemon, hald

In /etc/rc.conf
hald_enable="YES"

# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald start

IIRC and your disk isn't sccsi you should probably have
  device  atapicam
in your kernel configuration file and build a new kernel. (Might be outdated)

Actually k3b works fine for me without hald.  I find hald a bit too  
enthusiastic for my taste.

I also have the device permissions assigned for non root users in  
devfs.conf.  That may no longer be necessary and I normally burn as  
root on my laptop even though it isn't recommended.

Hope this helps get you started.

ed

> At the moment k3b is not seeing the DVD writer, Sony GW120
> dual layer.
> Even with the drive mounted k3b can't find it.
> Does k3b work ?.
> This is getting very frustrating, Openffice has been compiling for the
> last 5 hrs and still hasn't finish, and knowing my luck it will
> probably fail to build again.
> So I'm stuck with a system that I can now play music on, the USB flash
> stick is not mounting, I can use some Ham apps, I can send e-mail and
> receive it, but if I want to save a file on media, either CD or DVD,
>  the only way at the moment is to ftp to a site, reboot
> into linux and ftp it back.
> I can't write to the ext3 linux partition as its read only
> I haven't pluged my camera in to a USB port yet, but I'm beginning to
> wonder if the memory cad will be seen.
> Suggestions ?
> I suspect one will be go back to linux
>
> --
>
>
> Best Wishes
> Richard Bown
> ----
> ##################################################
> OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
> HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
> located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
> QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
> www.software-radio.org.uk
> ##################################################
>
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From db at db.net  Thu May  8 02:18:28 2008
From: db at db.net (Diane Bruce)
Date: Thu May  8 02:18:32 2008
Subject: k3b devices
In-Reply-To: <20080507185120.72805156x53jtlcs@intranet.encontacto.net>
References: <20080508000607.724b9fbb@gb7tf>
	<20080507185120.72805156x53jtlcs@intranet.encontacto.net>
Message-ID: <20080508021822.GB62023@night.db.net>

On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 06:51:20PM -0500, eculp wrote:
> Quoting Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk>:
>
> >Hi
...
>
> In /etc/rc.conf
> hald_enable="YES"
>
> # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald start
>
> IIRC and your disk isn't sccsi you should probably have
>  device  atapicam

adding atapicam_load="YES" to the bottom of /boot/loader.conf
should do it as well, kldload atapicam to load without a reboot.

--
- db@FreeBSD.org db@db.net http://www.db.net/~db
From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu May  8 07:41:58 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Thu May  8 07:42:03 2008
Subject: k3b devices
In-Reply-To: <20080508021822.GB62023@night.db.net>
References: <20080508000607.724b9fbb@gb7tf>
	<20080507185120.72805156x53jtlcs@intranet.encontacto.net>
	<20080508021822.GB62023@night.db.net>
Message-ID: <20080508084151.15455ba1@gb7tf>

On Wed, 7 May 2008 22:18:22 -0400
Diane Bruce <db@db.net> wrote:

> On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 06:51:20PM -0500, eculp wrote:
> > Quoting Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk>:
> >
> > >Hi
> ...
> >
> > In /etc/rc.conf
> > hald_enable="YES"
> >
> > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald start
> >
> > IIRC and your disk isn't sccsi you should probably have
> >  device  atapicam
> 
> adding atapicam_load="YES" to the bottom of /boot/loader.conf
> should do it as well, kldload atapicam to load without a reboot.
> 
> --
> - db@FreeBSD.org db@db.net http://www.db.net/~db
> 
Thanks Both for the info,
I've go to out today but I'll implement it when I get home.

BTW OpenOffice has built, but its not starting from the desktop .



-- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
www.software-radio.org.uk
##################################################

From lars.engels at 0x20.net  Thu May  8 11:54:44 2008
From: lars.engels at 0x20.net (Lars Engels)
Date: Thu May  8 11:54:46 2008
Subject: k3b devices
In-Reply-To: <20080508084151.15455ba1@gb7tf>
References: <20080508000607.724b9fbb@gb7tf>
	<20080507185120.72805156x53jtlcs@intranet.encontacto.net>
	<20080508021822.GB62023@night.db.net> <20080508084151.15455ba1@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <20080508135442.tiziw7dvcwgwwg8s@0x20.net>

Quoting Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk>:

> On Wed, 7 May 2008 22:18:22 -0400
> Diane Bruce <db@db.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 06:51:20PM -0500, eculp wrote:
>> > Quoting Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk>:
>> >
>> > >Hi
>> ...
>> >
>> > In /etc/rc.conf
>> > hald_enable="YES"
>> >
>> > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald start
>> >
>> > IIRC and your disk isn't sccsi you should probably have
>> >  device  atapicam
>>
>> adding atapicam_load="YES" to the bottom of /boot/loader.conf
>> should do it as well, kldload atapicam to load without a reboot.
>>
>> --
>> - db@FreeBSD.org db@db.net http://www.db.net/~db
>>
> Thanks Both for the info,
> I've go to out today but I'll implement it when I get home.
>
> BTW OpenOffice has built, but its not starting from the desktop .


About k3b: It works fine. You should read it's pkg-message (was  
displayed after the installation of k3b):
pkg_info -Dx k3b

About OpenOffice: Normally, you can use packages for big apps like Openoffice.
ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/2.2.1/FreeBSD7/

As you have already installed it, try to start it from a console and  
see which error message you get.

There's no need to go back to Linux, you just have to think a bit  
different in FreeBSD ;-)
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From lars.engels at 0x20.net  Thu May  8 12:12:13 2008
From: lars.engels at 0x20.net (Lars Engels)
Date: Thu May  8 12:12:15 2008
Subject: k3b devices
In-Reply-To: <20080508135442.tiziw7dvcwgwwg8s@0x20.net>
References: <20080508000607.724b9fbb@gb7tf>
	<20080507185120.72805156x53jtlcs@intranet.encontacto.net>
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Message-ID: <20080508141211.29o07aqib0o4scw8@0x20.net>

Quoting Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>:

> Quoting Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk>:
>
>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 22:18:22 -0400
>> Diane Bruce <db@db.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 06:51:20PM -0500, eculp wrote:
>>>> Quoting Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk>:
>>>>
>>>> >Hi
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> In /etc/rc.conf
>>>> hald_enable="YES"
>>>>
>>>> # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald start
>>>>
>>>> IIRC and your disk isn't sccsi you should probably have
>>>>  device  atapicam
>>>
>>> adding atapicam_load="YES" to the bottom of /boot/loader.conf
>>> should do it as well, kldload atapicam to load without a reboot.
>>>
>>> --
>>> - db@FreeBSD.org db@db.net http://www.db.net/~db
>>>
>> Thanks Both for the info,
>> I've go to out today but I'll implement it when I get home.
>>
>> BTW OpenOffice has built, but its not starting from the desktop .
>
>
> About k3b: It works fine. You should read it's pkg-message (was
> displayed after the installation of k3b):
> pkg_info -Dx k3b
>
> About OpenOffice: Normally, you can use packages for big apps like   
> Openoffice.
> ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/2.2.1/FreeBSD7/
>
> As you have already installed it, try to start it from a console and
> see which error message you get.
>
> There's no need to go back to Linux, you just have to think a bit
> different in FreeBSD ;-)

P.S. Just mount your ext3 Partition as ext2 r/w and you can write on it.
You only need to run fsck in Linux after that, because the journal  
doesn't fit the FS's contents afterwards.
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From db at db.net  Thu May  8 14:41:33 2008
From: db at db.net (Diane Bruce)
Date: Thu May  8 14:41:39 2008
Subject: k3b devices
In-Reply-To: <20080508135442.tiziw7dvcwgwwg8s@0x20.net>
References: <20080508000607.724b9fbb@gb7tf>
	<20080507185120.72805156x53jtlcs@intranet.encontacto.net>
	<20080508021822.GB62023@night.db.net>
	<20080508084151.15455ba1@gb7tf>
	<20080508135442.tiziw7dvcwgwwg8s@0x20.net>
Message-ID: <20080508144123.GA25737@night.db.net>

On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 01:54:42PM +0200, Lars Engels wrote:
> Quoting Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk>:
>
...
> >BTW OpenOffice has built, but its not starting from the desktop .
>
>
> About k3b: It works fine. You should read it's pkg-message (was
> displayed after the installation of k3b):
> pkg_info -Dx k3b

I hadn't tried k3b before, so I compiled it up last night. It's rather
cool eh? Sure beats mkisofs.

> About OpenOffice: Normally, you can use packages for big apps like
> Openoffice.
> ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/2.2.1/FreeBSD7/

I hadn't known about this myself. It's always "a learning experience."
Or if I had, I had forgotten. Thanks either way.

>
> As you have already installed it, try to start it from a console and
> see which error message you get.

My guess is Richard is trying to start openoffice but the binary
is openoffice.org-2.4.0; a sym link from openoffice to
openoffice.org-2.4.0 as part of the install would be nice IMO.

>
> There's no need to go back to Linux, you just have to think a bit
> different in FreeBSD ;-)

Or use one of the more user friendly packaged versions of FreeBSD,
i.e. PCBSD or desktopbsd. I personally like PCBSD, but Richard felt
it hid a bit too much from the user. Perhaps that is less true of
desktopbsd; I don't know. All in all, it I think I'm learning a lot
and perhaps the community (FreeBSD community) about what we could
do better. Richard has pointed out some failings we need to look at.

I'm going to set followups to freebsd-chat, I think that's probably the best
place now.

--
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From solarux at hotmail.com  Thu May  8 23:03:57 2008
From: solarux at hotmail.com (Rick Nekus)
Date: Thu May  8 23:04:02 2008
Subject: k3b devices and freebsd-chat
In-Reply-To: <20080508144123.GA25737@night.db.net>
References: <20080508000607.724b9fbb@gb7tf>
	<20080507185120.72805156x53jtlcs@intranet.encontacto.net>
	<20080508021822.GB62023@night.db.net> <20080508084151.15455ba1@gb7tf>
	<20080508135442.tiziw7dvcwgwwg8s@0x20.net> 
	<20080508144123.GA25737@night.db.net>
Message-ID: <BAY113-W958720DC0FEDCB955E6B1A1D00@phx.gbl>


"...I'm going to set followups to freebsd-chat, I think that's probably the best
place now..."

sorry, I'm off topic a bit but;
-hey thanks Diane, thats a good idea, and BTW, thanks for the tip, -I'm checkin' freebsd-chat out myself, looks like a good place for off-the-wall freebsd questions,....
:)

Rick. 
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From tatsuki_makino at hotmail.com  Fri May  9 09:50:04 2008
From: tatsuki_makino at hotmail.com (Tatsuki Makino)
Date: Fri May  9 09:50:06 2008
Subject: ports/118237: Ports: multimedia/ffmpeg fix configure option and
	add supports
Message-ID: <200805090950.m499o40j037188@freefall.freebsd.org>

The following reply was made to PR ports/118237; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: "Tatsuki Makino" <tatsuki_makino@hotmail.com>
To: <bug-followup@FreeBSD.org>,
	<tatsuki_makino@hotmail.com>
Cc:  
Subject: Re: ports/118237: Ports: multimedia/ffmpeg fix configure option and add supports
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 18:38:10 +0900

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From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Fri May  9 15:44:10 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Fri May  9 15:44:13 2008
Subject: k3b again
Message-ID: <20080509164401.50763b53@gb7tf>

Hi all 
I've been using k3b for several years, and the behaviour I'm seeing, 
I have not seen until starting to use FreeBSD.
Therefore, it is the way its been ported.
Everytime the k3b starts it complains:-
No CD/DVD writer found.
K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you
will not be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use other
K3b features like audio track extraction or audio transcoding or
ISO9660 image creation.
at least now there is 

the button "startk3bSetup2"
and you get in and there is:-

Sony DVD RW DW-G120A dev/cd0 660 root richard-1

and if I start to burn a CD...cant !!!!
So I though now I've got it to automount , chuck in a music CD and run
juice extractor, which started up and listed all the tracks
hit play or extract#

Error playing CD.

Reason: Could not open CD device for reading.

gb7tf# ls -la /dev/cd0
crw-rw----  1 root  richard-1    0, 115 May  9 15:18 /dev/cd0

I'm in group richard-1
I got my new printer today, the old one had a firmware fault.
So started cupsd, used the browser to open port 631..
no printers !!!!!!!

I'm sorry guys but someone needs to say it, that moving to FreeBSD is a
masochistic ride into purgatory.
I've used up a weeks holiday /vacation trying to get a working usable
system, where as I could have setup everything in linux in a few hours,
even if I'd chosen to use Slackware. I should have been playing radio
I'll give to midnight (GMT), and if I'm not further forward with a
working system , it will be time to draw a line underneath it and return
to using linux.
and to be honest PCBSD is a pain as it pays no attention to the
partition table when installing, blatting itself over the largest
partition and ignoring the rest. And I think most people use the
largest partitions either as the home dir or as non system storage.
Even the most nannified of linux distros give a choice on installation,
whether to use the existing partitions or not

I really appreciate all the help that's been given especially by Diane
and Konstantin, without them I would not have stayed trying as long as
I have.

I'm sorry if my comments offend, they are not intended to.


-- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
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From tevans.uk at googlemail.com  Fri May  9 17:05:57 2008
From: tevans.uk at googlemail.com (Tom Evans)
Date: Fri May  9 17:06:00 2008
Subject: k3b again
In-Reply-To: <20080509164401.50763b53@gb7tf>
References: <20080509164401.50763b53@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <1210352752.75986.27.camel@localhost>


On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 16:44 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> Hi all 
> I've been using k3b for several years, and the behaviour I'm seeing, 
> I have not seen until starting to use FreeBSD.
> Therefore, it is the way its been ported.
> Everytime the k3b starts it complains:-
> No CD/DVD writer found.
> K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you
> will not be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use other
> K3b features like audio track extraction or audio transcoding or
> ISO9660 image creation.
> at least now there is 
> 
> the button "startk3bSetup2"
> and you get in and there is:-
> 
> Sony DVD RW DW-G120A dev/cd0 660 root richard-1
> 
> and if I start to burn a CD...cant !!!!
> So I though now I've got it to automount , chuck in a music CD and run
> juice extractor, which started up and listed all the tracks
> hit play or extract#
> 
> Error playing CD.
> 
> Reason: Could not open CD device for reading.
> 
> gb7tf# ls -la /dev/cd0
> crw-rw----  1 root  richard-1    0, 115 May  9 15:18 /dev/cd0
> 
> I'm in group richard-1
> I got my new printer today, the old one had a firmware fault.
> So started cupsd, used the browser to open port 631..
> no printers !!!!!!!
> 
> I'm sorry guys but someone needs to say it, that moving to FreeBSD is a
> masochistic ride into purgatory.
> I've used up a weeks holiday /vacation trying to get a working usable
> system, where as I could have setup everything in linux in a few hours,
> even if I'd chosen to use Slackware. I should have been playing radio
> I'll give to midnight (GMT), and if I'm not further forward with a
> working system , it will be time to draw a line underneath it and return
> to using linux.
> and to be honest PCBSD is a pain as it pays no attention to the
> partition table when installing, blatting itself over the largest
> partition and ignoring the rest. And I think most people use the
> largest partitions either as the home dir or as non system storage.
> Even the most nannified of linux distros give a choice on installation,
> whether to use the existing partitions or not
> 
> I really appreciate all the help that's been given especially by Diane
> and Konstantin, without them I would not have stayed trying as long as
> I have.
> 
> I'm sorry if my comments offend, they are not intended to.
> 
> 

Hi Richard. Can you provide the output of these commands please:

dmesg | grep cd
camcontrol devlist

Also, if you have a spare CD-R, can you install sysutils/cdrtools and
sysutils/dvd+rw-tools (pkg_add -r cdrtools dvd+rw-tools), and run this:

growisofs -Z /dev/cd0 -r -j -speed 12 /usr/include

This will try to copy the contents of /usr/include (~15MB) to your CD.
If there are any errors, please post the full output of the command.

I'm sorry you found BSD difficult to get to grips with. One of the main
differences I noted with FreeBSD compared to Linux is that everything is
documented (at least compared to Linux!), so there is less need for
handholding UI installations. I've only ever installed FreeBSD using
sysinstall, which only holds your hand enough to launch diskedit. From
diskedit, you can configure the disks pretty much just how you like.

Another difference is that the Linux distros like to go for these
auto-configuration apps that detect and install things for you (kudzu?).
FreeBSD will auto probe hardware it finds (unless you tell it not to),
but it won't install peripherals like printers automatically. I've
always found adding printers reasonably easy - track down the printers
PPD file, set it up in CUPS web admin.

Finally, I think you may find you get more help - certainly more
responses - if you post these sorts of queries to freebsd-chat,
especially if you have more than one query.


Cheers

Tom
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From tad1214 at aol.com  Fri May  9 20:05:52 2008
From: tad1214 at aol.com (Thomas Donnelly)
Date: Fri May  9 20:05:56 2008
Subject: k3b again
In-Reply-To: <20080509164401.50763b53@gb7tf>
References: <20080509164401.50763b53@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <4824A85D.5080906@aol.com>

Richard Bown wrote:
> Hi all 
> I've been using k3b for several years, and the behaviour I'm seeing, 
> I have not seen until starting to use FreeBSD.
> Therefore, it is the way its been ported.
> Everytime the k3b starts it complains:-
> No CD/DVD writer found.
> K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you
> will not be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use other
> K3b features like audio track extraction or audio transcoding or
> ISO9660 image creation.
> at least now there is 
>
> the button "startk3bSetup2"
> and you get in and there is:-
>
> Sony DVD RW DW-G120A dev/cd0 660 root richard-1
>
> and if I start to burn a CD...cant !!!!
> So I though now I've got it to automount , chuck in a music CD and run
> juice extractor, which started up and listed all the tracks
> hit play or extract#
>
> Error playing CD.
>
> Reason: Could not open CD device for reading.
>
> gb7tf# ls -la /dev/cd0
> crw-rw----  1 root  richard-1    0, 115 May  9 15:18 /dev/cd0
>
> I'm in group richard-1
> I got my new printer today, the old one had a firmware fault.
> So started cupsd, used the browser to open port 631..
> no printers !!!!!!!
>
> I'm sorry guys but someone needs to say it, that moving to FreeBSD is a
> masochistic ride into purgatory.
> I've used up a weeks holiday /vacation trying to get a working usable
> system, where as I could have setup everything in linux in a few hours,
> even if I'd chosen to use Slackware. I should have been playing radio
> I'll give to midnight (GMT), and if I'm not further forward with a
> working system , it will be time to draw a line underneath it and return
> to using linux.
> and to be honest PCBSD is a pain as it pays no attention to the
> partition table when installing, blatting itself over the largest
> partition and ignoring the rest. And I think most people use the
> largest partitions either as the home dir or as non system storage.
> Even the most nannified of linux distros give a choice on installation,
> whether to use the existing partitions or not
>
> I really appreciate all the help that's been given especially by Diane
> and Konstantin, without them I would not have stayed trying as long as
> I have.
>
> I'm sorry if my comments offend, they are not intended to.
>
>
>   
Well Richard, I am sorry to hear all of the problems you have been 
having. Just a few side notes.
1. PC-BSD != Freebsd, I don't use PC-BSD for the same reason I don't 
like Linux or Windows, they are overly user friendly and do everything 
for you, often with unintended side effects when doing advanced things.
2. FreeBSD wasn't designed with workstation use as a primary goal, that 
has become much more popular in recent years, but, server use is and 
probably always will be the primary focus.
3. Many of these programs (k3b and the like) were designed for linux and 
ported over to freebsd, there are bound to be some bumps along the way.
4.  If you say I will give it to this and such a time, you may as well 
just cut over now, you are looking for a reason to dump the OS.
5. Part of the beauty of FreeBSD is simplicity yet complexity. It is not 
easy to learn, it is not user friendly, sharp edges are everywhere 
because the training wheels are off.


From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Fri May  9 21:30:50 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Fri May  9 21:30:54 2008
Subject: k3b again
In-Reply-To: <4824A85D.5080906@aol.com>
References: <20080509164401.50763b53@gb7tf>
	<4824A85D.5080906@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20080509223046.2b4c84ee@gb7tf>

On Fri, 09 May 2008 14:39:09 -0500
Thomas Donnelly <tad1214@aol.com> wrote:>
> ><snip>
> > I'm sorry if my comments offend, they are not intended to.
> >
> >
> >   
> Well Richard, I am sorry to hear all of the problems you have been 
> having. Just a few side notes.
> 1. PC-BSD != Freebsd, I don't use PC-BSD for the same reason I don't 
> like Linux or Windows, they are overly user friendly and do
> everything for you, often with unintended side effects when doing
> advanced things.
The reason for the move to FreeBSD was to get away from the software
thats running all the time in the background and is a real pig to
disable, telling you what you can do and not do.
the distribution on the other HD is Mandriva 2008.1. I've been using
MDV since it was started about 5 ~6 years ago, but its got to the state
there's a hidden sorta super root, and its a real pain when trying to
network across the kernel without using squid.
And if it sees public addresses on the same port as the modem it will
disconnect , just happens the cable modem uses a 10.x.x.x address 



 2. FreeBSD wasn't designed with workstation use as a
> primary goal, that has become much more popular in recent years, but,
> server use is and probably always will be the primary focus.
OK I accept that premise , but the same applies to nearly all the linux
disros. But seems with linux after the fork the desktop as it evolved
was readily accepted.
> 3. Many of these programs (k3b and the like) were designed for linux
> and ported over to freebsd, there are bound to be some bumps along
> the way. 
I don't call non-functional a bump, if it was a case it would burn cd
and not all DVD s thats a bump, to not be able to burn anything is a
major obstacle 



4.  If you say I will give it to this and such a time, you
> may as well just cut over now, you are looking for a reason to dump
> the OS.

Not so, I've made quite an investment so far, change the graphics card
as Xorg didn't want to play with  a standard Nvidia FX5500, PCI-express
graphics cards are not cheap, nor was the 250 GB e-SATA HD to put
FreeBSD on.

A week of sheer grief is not just giving up for the sake of it.
But I was aware someone would suggest that excuse




 5. Part of the beauty of FreeBSD is simplicity yet
> complexity. It is not easy to learn, it is not user friendly, sharp
> edges are everywhere because the training wheels are off.

I've no objections to sharp edges if the end result works,
the only way I have of saving date to media is a floppy drive,
may be I should grateful that FreeBSD does support such modern thing as
3 1/2" floppies, could have been 8"disks only
> 
> 
As a design engineer I very aware of sharp edges from either picking up
someone elses fag packet scribbling to taking it from my design to full
production.
And part of any design and application process, is to make the end
results repeatable and allow for tolerances.
You have only got to look at the installation of openoffice, how come
all the linux distros can manage to install it in the most an hour.
lets compare that process in FreeBSD, there's all the flaffing about
manually downloading the Sun packages, openoffice is GTK not java.
so once you done that, if of course Sun's site works properly, you then
get all the problems of changed dependencies, so if your lucky  a days
compiling.
That defies all logic,
Why not be sensible use precompiled libs, and just compile the
applications.
One of the reason for linux becoming slicker is the need to produce a
distro that is commercially viable, to give an effective alternative to
gatesware.
I can't see FreeBSD ever getting to the stage of commercial viability.
And that's why I've put a cut off time of  midnight tonight as the time
when I can no longer afford to spend 18 hours a day trying to reinvent
the wheel, where as I can cut a few spokes out of an existing wheel to
get what I need.
-- 


Best Wishes
Richard Bown
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HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
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www.software-radio.org.uk
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From n0oct at sbcglobal.net  Fri May  9 23:14:03 2008
From: n0oct at sbcglobal.net (jim smith)
Date: Fri May  9 23:14:07 2008
Subject: k3b again
In-Reply-To: <20080509223046.2b4c84ee@gb7tf>
References: <20080509164401.50763b53@gb7tf> <4824A85D.5080906@aol.com>
	<20080509223046.2b4c84ee@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <20080509181402.b9a78b6f.n0oct@sbcglobal.net>

I've been lurking here, but can stand only so much.

On Fri, 9 May 2008 22:30:46 +0100
Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> As a design engineer I very aware of sharp edges from either picking up
> someone elses fag packet scribbling to taking it from my design to full
> production.
> And part of any design and application process, is to make the end
> results repeatable and allow for tolerances.
> You have only got to look at the installation of openoffice, how come
> all the linux distros can manage to install it in the most an hour.

If you use the precompiled packages for FreeBSD [rather than building
from source], it's as much a snap as it is with Linux.  Building from
source on Linux is no picnic, either.  OTOH, the ports system works
quite well for just about every application I've ever built for
FreeBSD.  I run FBSD on servers at work, on PC's at home and even on my
laptop.

> lets compare that process in FreeBSD, there's all the flaffing about
> manually downloading the Sun packages, openoffice is GTK not java.
> so once you done that, if of course Sun's site works properly, you then
> get all the problems of changed dependencies, so if your lucky  a days
> compiling.

See above.

> That defies all logic,
> Why not be sensible use precompiled libs, and just compile the
> applications.
> One of the reason for linux becoming slicker is the need to produce a
> distro that is commercially viable, to give an effective alternative to
> gatesware.
> I can't see FreeBSD ever getting to the stage of commercial viability.

Look around you.  Many, many commercial sites run on FreeBSD.  Many
internal servers that never see the light of "Teh Interwebs" run
FreeBSD.  It's stable, it's secure and it works.  It's just not
targetted for desktop use.

> And that's why I've put a cut off time of  midnight tonight as the time
> when I can no longer afford to spend 18 hours a day trying to reinvent
> the wheel, where as I can cut a few spokes out of an existing wheel to
> get what I need.

You'll spend an awful lot of time trying to re-true that wheel.

-- 
jim smith <n0oct@sbcglobal.net>
From freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com  Sat May 10 00:36:33 2008
From: freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com (Dieter)
Date: Sat May 10 00:36:36 2008
Subject: Workstation-BSD  (was: Re: k3b again )
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 09 May 2008 14:39:09 CDT."
	<4824A85D.5080906@aol.com> 
Message-ID: <200805100035.AAA12765@sopwith.solgatos.com>

>> I'm sorry guys but someone needs to say it, that moving to FreeBSD is a
>> masochistic ride into purgatory.

That sounds more like penguinix.

>> PCBSD is a pain as it pays no attention to the
>> partition table when installing, blatting itself over the largest
>> partition and ignoring the rest. And I think most people use the
>> largest partitions either as the home dir or as non system storage.

FreeBSD is Unix.  (Not imitation Unix like penguinix.)  Unix is a power
tool.  My table saw doesn't decide how wide to slice a board, I do.
My drill press doesn't decide how deep to drill a hole, I do.  I also
decide how big to make partitions and what data to put in which partition.
Automagic installation programs are for wimps.

> 2. FreeBSD wasn't designed with workstation use as a primary goal, that 
> has become much more popular in recent years, but, server use is and 
> probably always will be the primary focus.

Servers?  Toy servers might run FreeBSD, but real servers don't.  Real
servers come in multiple full height 19" racks, with 6 or 7 figure price
tags and run proprietary Unix.  Usually based on BSD internally even if
they provide a SystemV veneer for marketing.

So which BSD *is* designed with workstation use in mind?  Traditionally,
FreeBSD concentrated on performance, NetBSD concentrated on portability
giving the ability to run on everything but the kitchen sink, and OpenBSD
concentrated on security.  Well, NetBSD is starting to drop architectures,
and FreeBSD has big time performance problems.  (no NCQ support for starters)
From smithi at nimnet.asn.au  Sat May 10 04:58:16 2008
From: smithi at nimnet.asn.au (Ian Smith)
Date: Sat May 10 04:58:20 2008
Subject: k3b again
In-Reply-To: <20080509223046.2b4c84ee@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.1080510131453.17392A-100000@gaia.nimnet.asn.au>

On Fri, 9 May 2008, Richard Bown wrote:
 > On Fri, 09 May 2008 14:39:09 -0500
 > Thomas Donnelly <tad1214@aol.com> wrote:>
 > > ><snip>
 > > > I'm sorry if my comments offend, they are not intended to.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >   
 > > Well Richard, I am sorry to hear all of the problems you have been 
 > > having. Just a few side notes.
 > > 1. PC-BSD != Freebsd, I don't use PC-BSD for the same reason I don't 
 > > like Linux or Windows, they are overly user friendly and do
 > > everything for you, often with unintended side effects when doing
 > > advanced things.

 > The reason for the move to FreeBSD was to get away from the software
 > thats running all the time in the background and is a real pig to
 > disable, telling you what you can do and not do.
 > the distribution on the other HD is Mandriva 2008.1. I've been using
 > MDV since it was started about 5 ~6 years ago, but its got to the state

You don't say whether you tried installing FreeBSD, rather than PC-BSD?

 >  2. FreeBSD wasn't designed with workstation use as a
 > > primary goal, that has become much more popular in recent years, but,
 > > server use is and probably always will be the primary focus.

 > OK I accept that premise , but the same applies to nearly all the linux
 > disros. But seems with linux after the fork the desktop as it evolved
 > was readily accepted.

Lots of people use FreeBSD on their desktops successfully, including on
machines that also run many services.  A big part of learning FreeBSD is
finding out how to ask questions of the community in a way that helps
get to the nub of whatever problems you might have.  Others are using
k3b successfully, and they're the ones you want to be connecting with. 
Negative comparisons with varieties of linux isn't likely to help that.

 > > 3. Many of these programs (k3b and the like) were designed for linux
 > > and ported over to freebsd, there are bound to be some bumps along
 > > the way. 

 > I don't call non-functional a bump, if it was a case it would burn cd
 > and not all DVD s thats a bump, to not be able to burn anything is a
 > major obstacle 

So - except in the less likely event that your particular hardware is
not supported - you have some configuration problem.  If you focused on
resolving that, rather than assuming 'FreeBSD doesn't work', you'd most
likely do much better, but it may require more patience than you have.

 > 4.  If you say I will give it to this and such a time, you
 > > may as well just cut over now, you are looking for a reason to dump
 > > the OS.
 > 
 > Not so, I've made quite an investment so far, change the graphics card
 > as Xorg didn't want to play with  a standard Nvidia FX5500, PCI-express
 > graphics cards are not cheap, nor was the 250 GB e-SATA HD to put
 > FreeBSD on.
 > 
 > A week of sheer grief is not just giving up for the sake of it.
 > But I was aware someone would suggest that excuse

So you learned everything you know and need to know about linux in a
week?  If that's the case, you should indeed stick with it!  It took me
more than a week to become fairly familiar with the FreeBSD handbook.

 >  5. Part of the beauty of FreeBSD is simplicity yet
 > > complexity. It is not easy to learn, it is not user friendly, sharp
 > > edges are everywhere because the training wheels are off.
 > 
 > I've no objections to sharp edges if the end result works,
 > the only way I have of saving date to media is a floppy drive,
 > may be I should grateful that FreeBSD does support such modern thing as
 > 3 1/2" floppies, could have been 8"disks only

Being sarky, and confusing what you haven't managed to get going yet
with what FreeBSD does or doesn't support, isn't likely to elicit the
support you need from the very people you need it from, I'm afraid.

 > As a design engineer I very aware of sharp edges from either picking up
 > someone elses fag packet scribbling to taking it from my design to full
 > production.
 > And part of any design and application process, is to make the end
 > results repeatable and allow for tolerances.

Uhuh.  On a zillion dfferent hardware and software configurations.

 > You have only got to look at the installation of openoffice, how come
 > all the linux distros can manage to install it in the most an hour.
 > lets compare that process in FreeBSD, there's all the flaffing about
 > manually downloading the Sun packages, openoffice is GTK not java.
 > so once you done that, if of course Sun's site works properly, you then
 > get all the problems of changed dependencies, so if your lucky  a days
 > compiling.
 > That defies all logic,
 > Why not be sensible use precompiled libs, and just compile the
 > applications.

Even many hardcore source-only folks will stoop to installing openoffice
from the package rather than source :) but I guess in a week you haven't
had time to do the mailing list research needed to clue you in to the
best way of dealing with ports and/or packages installation/upgrading.

 > One of the reason for linux becoming slicker is the need to produce a
 > distro that is commercially viable, to give an effective alternative to
 > gatesware.

Yes there's that vibe in many discussions of linux as a 'better windows'
but few FreeBSD people find these sorts of competitive comparisons as
any good reason to consider using FreeBSD for their particular needs.

 > I can't see FreeBSD ever getting to the stage of commercial viability.

If you mean mass-market desktop commercialism, no, that's never been an
objective for most *BSD users.  Certainly there are plenty of heavy-duty
commercial outfits using FreeBSD at the core of their business - Yahoo
springs to mind - but for the one-click install then everything runs out
of the box market (largely imaginary aside from windows and OSX) you'll
find very little interest amongst FreeBSD (or indeed *BSD) enthusiasts.

 > And that's why I've put a cut off time of  midnight tonight as the time
 > when I can no longer afford to spend 18 hours a day trying to reinvent
 > the wheel, where as I can cut a few spokes out of an existing wheel to
 > get what I need.

Yeah there's not much use expecting to learn any new system in a week,
especially starting with unrealistic expectations, so sticking with a
linux probably makes most sense for you.  Whatever you use, enjoy! 

Cheers, Ian

From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Sat May 10 09:30:48 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Sat May 10 09:30:52 2008
Subject: k3b again
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.1080510131453.17392A-100000@gaia.nimnet.asn.au>
References: <20080509223046.2b4c84ee@gb7tf>
	<Pine.BSF.3.96.1080510131453.17392A-100000@gaia.nimnet.asn.au>
Message-ID: <20080510103045.1562f20e@gb7tf>

On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:34:05 +1000 (EST)
Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote:

> On Fri, 9 May 2008, Richard Bown wrote:
>  > On Fri, 09 May 2008 14:39:09 -0500
>  > Thomas Donnelly <tad1214@aol.com> wrote:>
>  > > ><snip>
>  > > > I'm sorry if my comments offend, they are not intended to.
>  > > >


But it looks like I've started a flame war.

FreeBSD might be fine as a server, so are 99% or the linux distros 
if you don't want to run X.
I've been using linux since kernel version 2.0.10 and Redhat 4.
And as my main use was for Ham apps it meant recompiling a kernel
every time, when machines were so slow it would take more than 4 hours
to compile, so a lot of the basic unix commands are common to both
systems. It is no a case of starting from scratch, maybe a case of
dusting a few cobwebs off.
I did try PC-BSD to get the xorg.conf file as Xorg -configure would not
set up the Graphics card.,
To save time I bought a new card.
It looks like to get K3b to burn I'll have to change the DVD r/w.
To be able to use the sound system for what I want will mean 
getting another sound card, as there there is no facilities in FreeBSD
to support the M-Audio Delta 66 card to its full potential.
There's a problem on its own, that cards used for its low noise and
dynamic range, there are no longer made and as far as I know the
Terratec boards don't have the same breakout box.
To watch TV the DVB-T card cant be used as its not supported, I'd have
to buy a USB DVB-T stick and be very careful which chip set it uses
as there is only one driver. That DVB-T card is too expensive to just
remove and not use.
You've only got to look at dmesg :
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on
isa0 ugen0: <ZT6688 USB NNC ZT6688 USB NIC, class 0/0, rev 1.10/1.01,
addr 2> on uhub0 ums0: <Microsoft Microsoft 3-Button Mouse with
IntelliEye(TM), class 0/0, rev 1.10/3.00, addr 3> on uhub0 ums0: 3
buttons and Z dir. ugen1: <vendor 0x0d8c PnP Audio Device, class 0/0,
rev 1.10/0.10, addr 2> on uhub1 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
hptrr: no controller detected.
ad0: 156334MB <Maxtor 6L160P0 BAJ41G20> at ata0-master UDMA133
acd0: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable
acd0: DVDR <SONY DVD RW DW-G120A/MYS2> at ata1-master UDMA33
ad8: 238475MB <MAXTOR STM3250310AS 3.AAC> at ata4-master SATA150
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00
cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
cd0: <SONY DVD RW DW-G120A MYS2> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device
cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers
cd0: cd present [1 x 2048 byte records]
acd0: FAILURE - READ_TOC ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00
acd0: FAILURE - READ_TOC ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00
acd0: FAILURE - READ_TOC ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00
acd0: FAILURE - READ_TOC ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad8s1a
ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert loadable, rule-based forwarding
disabled, default to deny, logging disabled ugen0: at uhub0 port 1
(addr 2) disconnected ugen0: detached
acd0: FAILURE - READ_TOC ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00
acd0: FAILURE - READ_TOC ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00
(cd0:ata1:0:0:0): READ TOC/PMA/ATIP {MMC Proposed}. CDB: 43 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 4 0 (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(cd0:ata1:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(cd0:ata1:0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0
(cd0:ata1:0:0:0): Invalid field in CDB
(cd0:ata1:0:0:0): Unretryable error
re0: link state changed to UP
re0: link state changed to DOWN
re0: link state changed to UP
re0: link state changed to DOWN
re0: link state changed to UP
re0: link state changed to DOWN
re0: link state changed to UP
re0: link state changed to DOWN
re0: link state changed to UP
re0: link state changed to DOWN
re0: link state changed to UP
re0: link state changed to DOWN
re0: link state changed to UP
you can see that its far from happy with the hardware on this machine.
I only have three machines, this, a NSLU2,arm-processor, which normally
is used as a DX Cluster server, an old laptop running win98 which had
been on loan to  my mother.
So this machine has to do everything, and it clear using FreeBSD it
cant without a lot of time and major hardware changes.
I should'nt have to rebuild this machine to use FreeBSD, only built it
a month ago.
I can get around the nannified background software that run on the
linux distro I've used for the last 5 years by using an external
firewall and turning off all the security features.
I'm just stuck with one Ham App which compiles on FeeBSD and not so far
on the distro of linux I use.

You can flame me much as you like

Best Wishes
Richard Bown
----
##################################################
OS: FreeBSD 7.0, AMD64 x2 Dual Core 4400+, 8GB RAM
HAM CALL: G8JVM, QRA IO82SP,
located 75 kms NE Birmingham UK
QRV HF + all bands 50 MHz to 10 GHZ
www.software-radio.org.uk
##################################################

From n0oct at sbcglobal.net  Sat May 10 13:06:39 2008
From: n0oct at sbcglobal.net (jim smith)
Date: Sat May 10 13:06:44 2008
Subject: k3b again
In-Reply-To: <20080510103045.1562f20e@gb7tf>
References: <20080509223046.2b4c84ee@gb7tf>
	<Pine.BSF.3.96.1080510131453.17392A-100000@gaia.nimnet.asn.au>
	<20080510103045.1562f20e@gb7tf>
Message-ID: <20080510080636.c628cf87.n0oct@sbcglobal.net>

On Sat, 10 May 2008 10:30:45 +0100
Richard Bown <richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:34:05 +1000 (EST)
> Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 9 May 2008, Richard Bown wrote:
> >  > On Fri, 09 May 2008 14:39:09 -0500
> >  > Thomas Donnelly <tad1214@aol.com> wrote:>
> >  > > ><snip>
> >  > > > I'm sorry if my comments offend, they are not intended to.
> >  > > >
> 
> 
> But it looks like I've started a flame war.

Not necessarily, and I'm not going to perpetuate one.  I feel your
pain--I'm a ham [N0OCT], and FreeBSD isn't quite ready for many of the
apps available to it.  I did get LinRad running, but not with a decent
audio card.  One might explore running something under wine [windows
apps, obviously].  But until FreeBSD has good support for some of the
higher end audio cards [it's being worked on], I too will have a
computer set aside for ham radio apps running Linux.

It's not a big deal--it's just the way it is.

> 
> FreeBSD might be fine as a server, so are 99% or the linux distros 
> if you don't want to run X.

Here I'll mildly take issue.  For server software maintenance an
upkeep, FBSD wins hands down.   None of the kernel vs. userland
stuff--it's all a comprehensive release.  BTW, I run X on many of my
FBSD servers without any issues whatsoever.

> I've been using linux since kernel version 2.0.10 and Redhat 4.
> And as my main use was for Ham apps it meant recompiling a kernel
> every time, when machines were so slow it would take more than 4 hours
> to compile, so a lot of the basic unix commands are common to both
> systems. It is no a case of starting from scratch, maybe a case of
> dusting a few cobwebs off.

And in the end, that's ok.  Pick the right OS for the job.  I've got
one machine at work running NetBSD because nothing else in BSD world
will run on a Mac G4 like NetBSD.  I used to use Debian to do audio
processing for music, because many of the apps weren't yet ported to
FBSD.

> I did try PC-BSD to get the xorg.conf file as Xorg -configure would not
> set up the Graphics card.,
> To save time I bought a new card.
> It looks like to get K3b to burn I'll have to change the DVD r/w.

It's cheaper to change your mind.  ;-).  Why stuck on the GUI?  Use
growisofs to burn DVDs.  Use Kino to master your clips, DVDStyler to
make the .iso, and growisofs to burn them--I do it, and it works fine.

> To be able to use the sound system for what I want will mean 
> getting another sound card, as there there is no facilities in FreeBSD
> to support the M-Audio Delta 66 card to its full potential.
> There's a problem on its own, that cards used for its low noise and
> dynamic range, there are no longer made and as far as I know the
> Terratec boards don't have the same breakout box.
> To watch TV the DVB-T card cant be used as its not supported, I'd have
> to buy a USB DVB-T stick and be very careful which chip set it uses
> as there is only one driver. That DVB-T card is too expensive to just
> remove and not use.

Dual boot the machine based upon its use?  Have FreeBSD and Linux on
it?  My son and I are building a MythTV box this summer with
MythBuntu--FBSD just isn't quite yet up to speed on that.

<snip>

> you can see that its far from happy with the hardware on this machine.
> I only have three machines, this, a NSLU2,arm-processor, which normally
> is used as a DX Cluster server, an old laptop running win98 which had
> been on loan to  my mother.
> So this machine has to do everything, and it clear using FreeBSD it
> cant without a lot of time and major hardware changes.
> I should'nt have to rebuild this machine to use FreeBSD, only built it
> a month ago.

Again, since FBSD is targetted as a server OS, it's not going to keep
up with the latest and greatest video, sound, etc.  

> I can get around the nannified background software that run on the
> linux distro I've used for the last 5 years by using an external
> firewall and turning off all the security features.
> I'm just stuck with one Ham App which compiles on FeeBSD and not so far
> on the distro of linux I use.

Not flaming, but I think you should think strongly about either dual
booting this machine, using vmware, Xen or some other virtualization
software.

My recommendation, had you asked about this project *before* you built
the box, would have been to go over the hardware compatibility list
with a fine toothed comb, sift through comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc to
see what apps were up to speed, and *then* select your hardware.

> You can flame me much as you like

Nah, it's not worth it.
-- 
jim smith <n0oct@sbcglobal.net>
From zb at ispid.com.pl  Sat May 10 13:19:34 2008
From: zb at ispid.com.pl (Zbigniew Baniewski)
Date: Sat May 10 13:19:39 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
Message-ID: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>

I've got a problem while replacing NVidia GeForce4 with Radeon 9000Pro: it
seems, that xorg totally ignores either entire `Section "Screen"' paragraph,
or at least every single `SubSection "Display"' entry inside that paragaraph.

As a result, I'm unable to have desired resolution at desired bpp, when
starting X-server, it always chooses on its own. The second consequence is,
that there's no possibility to switch resolutions using <Ctrl>-<Alt>-<+ ->
anymore.

Below a copy of my xorg.conf. I'm using the same config under Linux (got
dual-boot install) - with just slight differences (mouse, /dev/* etc. - you
know; nothing screen-related) - without any problems. So, it must be a bug
in FreeBSD's port of radeon driver, most probably. Does there exist any
workaround?

Or perhaps there's missing something FreeBSD specific?


=========================================================================
# xorg.conf (Xorg X Window System server configuration file)

# Transparency on
Section "Extensions"
    Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier     "Default Layout"
	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
	RgbPath      "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb"
	ModulePath   "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/freefont-ttf/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/terminus-font/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load	"GLcore"
	Load	"bitmap"
	Load	"dbe"
	Load	"dri"
	Load	"extmod"
	Load	"freetype"
	Load	"glx"
	Load	"int10"
	Load	"record"
	Load	"type1"
	Load	"vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Keyboard0"
	Driver		"kbd"
	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc101"
	Option		"XkbLayout"	"pl"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Mouse0"
	Driver		"mouse"
	Option		"Device"		"/dev/sysmouse"
	Option		"Protocol"		"Auto"
	Option		"Buttons"		"5"
	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier	"Card0"
	Driver		"radeon"
	VendorName	"ATI"
	BoardName	"ATI Radeon 9000 Pro"
	Option		"AccelMethod"	"XAA"
	Option		"AGPMode"	"1"
	Option		"EnablePageFlip"	"1"
	Option		"ColorTiling"	"1"
	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
	Option "backingstore" "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	"Monitor0"
	VendorName	"Proview"
	ModelName	"900 P"
	Option		"DPMS"
	HorizSync	30.0 - 80.0
	VertRefresh	60.0 - 85.0
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier	"Screen0"
	Device		"Card0"
	Monitor		"Monitor0"
	DefaultDepth	16
#	SubSection "Display"
#		Viewport	0 0
#		Depth		16
#		Virtual		1280 1024
#	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		1
		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		4
		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		8
		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		15
		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		16
		Modes		"800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		24
		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
	Group	0
	Mode	0666
EndSection

-- 
				pozdrawiam / regards

						Zbigniew Baniewski
From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Sat May 10 13:46:44 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Sat May 10 13:46:48 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
Message-ID: <20080510144642.1e8e9c6c@gb7tf>

Hi

>I've got a problem while replacing NVidia GeForce4 with Radeon
>9000Pro: it
>seems, that xorg totally ignores either entire `Section "Screen"'
>paragraph, or at least every single `SubSection "Display"' entry inside
>that paragaraph.

>As a result, I'm unable to have desired resolution at desired bpp, when
starting X-server, it always chooses on its own. The second consequence
is, that there's no possibility to switch resolutions using
<Ctrl>-<Alt>-<+ -> anymore.

Below a copy of my xorg.conf. I'm using the same config under Linux (got
dual-boot install) - with just slight differences (mouse, /dev/* etc. -
you know; nothing screen-related) - without any problems. So, it must
be a bug in FreeBSD's port of radeon driver, most probably. Does there
exist any workaround?

Or perhaps there's missing something FreeBSD specific?


=========================================================================


I found exactly the same thing with a Nvidia card, the nv driver just
ignored the screen section. and you could only use low res 16 bit and in
my case 1024 x 768.
See the earlier thread of "RE:Problems with V7" and replace Nvidia
with .Radeon
there seems no compatibility between xorg.conf created in linux and
xorg.conf created in FreeBSD. 
You could try loading PC-BSD and seeing what that puts in xorg.conf.
BUT beware of its loader, it will use the largest partition it can find.
so don't leave the power connected to the HD that has linux. or
anything else you want to keep.
Easiest just to use a spare  2~3 GB HD. 


good luck
Richard

From zb at ispid.com.pl  Sat May 10 13:56:57 2008
From: zb at ispid.com.pl (Zbigniew Baniewski)
Date: Sat May 10 13:57:01 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <20080510144642.1e8e9c6c@gb7tf>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
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On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 02:46:42PM +0100, Richard Bown wrote:

> >I've got a problem while replacing NVidia GeForce4 with Radeon
> >9000Pro: it
> >seems, that xorg totally ignores either entire `Section "Screen"'
> >paragraph, or at least every single `SubSection "Display"' entry inside
> >that paragaraph.
> 
> >As a result, I'm unable to have desired resolution at desired bpp, when
> >starting X-server, it always chooses on its own. The second consequence
> >is, that there's no possibility to switch resolutions using
> ><Ctrl>-<Alt>-<+ -> anymore.

> You could try loading PC-BSD and seeing what that puts in xorg.conf.
> BUT beware of its loader, it will use the largest partition it can find.
> so don't leave the power connected to the HD that has linux. or
> anything else you want to keep.
> Easiest just to use a spare  2~3 GB HD. 

I made a try using xorgconf utility, to make a xorg.conf "from scratch",
and from within FreeBSD. But still the screen section seems to be totally
ignored - no chance to switch to other resolution, and no chance to choose
the default resolution.

Perhaps someone is aware of any fixes existing for the problem? Googling
around revealed just some more similar complaints - but not any cure.
-- 
				pozdrawiam / regards

						Zbigniew Baniewski
From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Sat May 10 15:35:48 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Sat May 10 15:35:51 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
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Hi [...]  
>   
 [...]  
 [...]  

> You could try loading PC-BSD and seeing what that puts in xorg.conf.
> BUT beware of its loader, it will use the largest partition it can
> find. so don't leave the power connected to the HD that has linux. or
> anything else you want to keep.
> Easiest just to use a spare  2~3 GB HD.   

"I made a try using xorgconf utility, to make a xorg.conf "from
scratch", and from within FreeBSD. But still the screen section seems
to be totally ignored - no chance to switch to other resolution, and no
chance to choose the default resolution.

Perhaps someone is aware of any fixes existing for the problem? Googling
around revealed just some more similar complaints - but not any cure.
-- 
				pozdrawiam / regards

						Zbigniew Baniewski"
_______________________________________________

One thing you could check on is how many xorg.conf files you have on
the system.
try deleting all the xorg.conf file in /root and /etc/X11
run Xorg -configure which if it behaves produces a file xorg.conf.new
then copy xorg.conf.new to xorg.conf

then start x, if you lucky it might start
section 5.4.2 of the handbook covers it 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html

hth
Richard

From zb at ispid.com.pl  Sat May 10 16:37:26 2008
From: zb at ispid.com.pl (Zbigniew Baniewski)
Date: Sat May 10 16:37:31 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
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On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 04:35:46PM +0100, Richard Bown wrote:

> One thing you could check on is how many xorg.conf files you have on
> the system.

Just one: /etc/xorg.conf

> try deleting all the xorg.conf file in /root and /etc/X11
> run Xorg -configure which if it behaves produces a file xorg.conf.new
> then copy xorg.conf.new to xorg.conf

Unfortunately, it gave nothing more interesting, than just using xorgconf.

> then start x, if you lucky it might start
> section 5.4.2 of the handbook covers it 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html

No, I'm afraid, the real clue I've found reading man page of xorg.conf. Yes,
I wrote "I'm afraid", because there is:

About screen-section:

   Modes  "mode-name" ...
          This  optional  entry  specifies the list of video modes to use.
          Each mode-name specified must be in double  quotes.   They  must
                                                               ^^^^^^^^^^
          correspond  to  those specified or referenced in the appropriate
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
          Monitor section (including implicitly referenced  built-in  VESA
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
          standard  modes).   The  server will delete modes from this list
          which don't satisfy various requirements.


So, there's a need to examine appropriate section:


MONITOR SECTION
       The  config file may have multiple Monitor sections. [..]

       Mode  "name"
          This is an optional multi-line entry that can be used to provide
          definitions for video modes for the monitor. [..]

          DotClock  clock
              is the dot (pixel) clock rate to be used for the mode.

          HTimings  hdisp hsyncstart hsyncend htotal
              specifies the horizontal timings for the mode.

          VTimings  vdisp vsyncstart vsyncend vtotal
              specifies the vertical timings for the mode.

          Flags  "flag" ...
              specifies  an optional set [..]

          HSkew  hskew
              specifies the number of pixels [..]

          VScan  vscan
              specifies  the  number [..]


So, if I properly understood, using quite modern Xorg, I've got to look for
several values of "skews & scans" (and timings, and...), like I used to over
10 years ago, in early "paleo-Linux" days...  :]
-- 
				pozdrawiam / regards

						Zbigniew Baniewski
From shoesoft at gmx.net  Sat May 10 19:23:25 2008
From: shoesoft at gmx.net (Stefan Ehmann)
Date: Sat May 10 19:23:27 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
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On Saturday 10 May 2008 15:19:32 Zbigniew Baniewski wrote:
> I've got a problem while replacing NVidia GeForce4 with Radeon 9000Pro: it
> seems, that xorg totally ignores either entire `Section "Screen"'
> paragraph, or at least every single `SubSection "Display"' entry inside
> that paragaraph.
>
> As a result, I'm unable to have desired resolution at desired bpp, when
> starting X-server, it always chooses on its own. The second consequence is,
> that there's no possibility to switch resolutions using <Ctrl>-<Alt>-<+ ->
> anymore.
>
> Below a copy of my xorg.conf. I'm using the same config under Linux (got
> dual-boot install) - with just slight differences (mouse, /dev/* etc. - you
> know; nothing screen-related) - without any problems. So, it must be a bug
> in FreeBSD's port of radeon driver, most probably. Does there exist any
> workaround?
>
> Or perhaps there's missing something FreeBSD specific?

The xorg log file might reveal the source of the problem.
From zb at ispid.com.pl  Sat May 10 19:34:50 2008
From: zb at ispid.com.pl (Zbigniew Baniewski)
Date: Sat May 10 19:34:54 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
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On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 09:23:22PM +0200, Stefan Ehmann wrote:

> The xorg log file might reveal the source of the problem.


So, here it is:


X.Org X Server 1.4.0
Release Date: 5 September 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE i386 
Current Operating System: FreeBSD sarge.my.own.domain.no-net 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #2: Sat Apr 19 20:53:27 CEST 2008     root@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SARGE i386
Build Date: 13 February 2008  05:50:12PM
 
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat May 10 15:03:28 2008
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "Card0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(==) Including the default font path /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/.
(**) FontPath set to:
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/freefont-ttf/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/terminus-font/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb"
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
(**) Extension "Composite" is enabled
(II) Loader magic: 0x81ce600
(II) Module ABI versions:
	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3
	X.Org Video Driver: 2.0
	X.Org XInput driver : 2.0
	X.Org Server Extension : 0.3
	X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5
(II) Loader running on freebsd
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libpcidata.so
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
(--) using VT number 9

(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x80007810, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000
(WW) OS did not count PCI devices, guessing wildly
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7190 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7191 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,7110 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 8086,7111 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 01,01,80 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 8086,7112 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 8086,7113 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:09:0: chip 1102,0004 card 1102,005a rev 03 class 04,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:09:1: chip 1102,7003 card 1102,0040 rev 03 class 09,80,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:09:2: chip 1102,4001 card 1102,0010 rev 01 class 0c,00,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 10b7,9055 card 10b7,9055 rev 30 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0d:0: chip 10b9,5237 card 10b9,5237 rev 03 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:0d:1: chip 10b9,5237 card 10b9,5237 rev 03 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:0d:2: chip 10b9,5237 card 10b9,5237 rev 03 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:0d:3: chip 10b9,5239 card 10b9,5272 rev 01 class 0c,03,20 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:0f:0: chip 1095,3112 card 1095,6112 rev 01 class 01,04,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:11:0: chip 109e,036e card 1461,0001 rev 02 class 04,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:11:1: chip 109e,0878 card 1461,0001 rev 02 class 04,80,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,4966 card 17af,2005 rev 01 class 03,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 01:00:1: chip 1002,496e card 17af,2004 rev 01 class 03,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
	[0] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0088 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
	[0] -1	0	0x00009000 - 0x00009fff (0x1000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0xdc000000 - 0xddffffff (0x2000000) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(--) PCI: (0:17:0) Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture rev 2, Mem @ 0xdf00b000/12
(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000] rev 1, Mem @ 0xd0000000/26, 0xdd000000/16, I/O @ 0x9000/8
(--) PCI: (1:0:1) ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Radeon 9000] (Secondary) rev 1, Mem @ 0xd4000000/26, 0xdd010000/16
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
	[0] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
	[1] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[1] -1	0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xd8000000 from 0xdfffffff to 0xd7ffffff
(II) Active PCI resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0	0xdf00c000 - 0xdf00ffff (0x4000) MX[B]E
	[1] -1	0	0xdf00a000 - 0xdf00bfff (0x2000) MX[B]E
	[2] -1	0	0xdf009000 - 0xdf009fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[3] -1	0	0xdf008000 - 0xdf00ffff (0x8000) MX[B]E
	[4] -1	0	0xdf007000 - 0xdf007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[5] -1	0	0xdf006000 - 0xdf007fff (0x2000) MX[B]E
	[6] -1	0	0xdf004000 - 0xdf007fff (0x4000) MX[B]E
	[7] -1	0	0xdf000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x1000000) MX[B]E
	[8] -1	0	0xdf005000 - 0xdf005fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[9] -1	0	0xd8000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO
	[10] -1	0	0xdd010000 - 0xdd01ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[11] -1	0	0xd4000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
	[12] -1	0	0xdd000000 - 0xdd00ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[13] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
	[14] -1	0	0xdf00b000 - 0xdf00bfff (0x1000) MX[B](B)
	[15] -1	0	0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[16] -1	0	0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bcff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[17] -1	0	0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[18] -1	0	0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[19] -1	0	0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[20] -1	0	0x0000ac00 - 0x0000acff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[21] -1	0	0x0000a800 - 0x0000a8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[22] -1	0	0x0000a400 - 0x0000a4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[23] -1	0	0x0000a000 - 0x0000a0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[24] -1	0	0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[25] -1	0	0x00009000 - 0x000090ff (0x100) IX[B](B)
(II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xdf00a000 from 0xdf00bfff to 0xdf00afff
(II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xdf008000 from 0xdf00ffff to 0xdf008fff
(II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xdf006000 from 0xdf007fff to 0xdf006fff
(II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xdf004000 from 0xdf007fff to 0xdf004fff
(II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xdf000000 from 0xdfffffff to 0xdf003fff
(II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:
	[0] -1	0	0xdf00c000 - 0xdf00ffff (0x4000) MX[B]E
	[1] -1	0	0xdf00a000 - 0xdf00afff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[2] -1	0	0xdf009000 - 0xdf009fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[3] -1	0	0xdf008000 - 0xdf008fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[4] -1	0	0xdf007000 - 0xdf007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[5] -1	0	0xdf006000 - 0xdf006fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[6] -1	0	0xdf004000 - 0xdf004fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[7] -1	0	0xdf000000 - 0xdf003fff (0x4000) MX[B]E
	[8] -1	0	0xdf005000 - 0xdf005fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[9] -1	0	0xd8000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO
	[10] -1	0	0xdd010000 - 0xdd01ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[11] -1	0	0xd4000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
	[12] -1	0	0xdd000000 - 0xdd00ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[13] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
	[14] -1	0	0xdf00b000 - 0xdf00bfff (0x1000) MX[B](B)
	[15] -1	0	0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[16] -1	0	0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bcff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[17] -1	0	0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[18] -1	0	0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[19] -1	0	0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[20] -1	0	0x0000ac00 - 0x0000acff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[21] -1	0	0x0000a800 - 0x0000a8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[22] -1	0	0x0000a400 - 0x0000a4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[23] -1	0	0x0000a000 - 0x0000a0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[24] -1	0	0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[25] -1	0	0x00009000 - 0x000090ff (0x100) IX[B](B)
(II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI:
	[0] -1	0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[1] -1	0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) All system resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[1] -1	0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0xdf00c000 - 0xdf00ffff (0x4000) MX[B]E
	[5] -1	0	0xdf00a000 - 0xdf00afff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[6] -1	0	0xdf009000 - 0xdf009fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[7] -1	0	0xdf008000 - 0xdf008fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[8] -1	0	0xdf007000 - 0xdf007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[9] -1	0	0xdf006000 - 0xdf006fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[10] -1	0	0xdf004000 - 0xdf004fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[11] -1	0	0xdf000000 - 0xdf003fff (0x4000) MX[B]E
	[12] -1	0	0xdf005000 - 0xdf005fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[13] -1	0	0xd8000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO
	[14] -1	0	0xdd010000 - 0xdd01ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[15] -1	0	0xd4000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
	[16] -1	0	0xdd000000 - 0xdd00ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[17] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
	[18] -1	0	0xdf00b000 - 0xdf00bfff (0x1000) MX[B](B)
	[19] -1	0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[20] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[21] -1	0	0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[22] -1	0	0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bcff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[23] -1	0	0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[24] -1	0	0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[25] -1	0	0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[26] -1	0	0x0000ac00 - 0x0000acff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[27] -1	0	0x0000a800 - 0x0000a8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[28] -1	0	0x0000a400 - 0x0000a4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[29] -1	0	0x0000a000 - 0x0000a0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[30] -1	0	0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[31] -1	0	0x00009000 - 0x000090ff (0x100) IX[B](B)
(II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "freetype" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "type1" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "freetype"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libfreetype.so
(II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 2.1.0
	Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
	ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5
(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(==) AIGLX disabled
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "int10"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so
(II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.13.0
	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "type1"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libtype1.so
(II) Module type1: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.0.2
	Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
	ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5
(II) Loading font Type1
(II) LoadModule: "vbe"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so
(II) Module vbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.1.0
	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) LoadModule: "radeon"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so
(II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 4.3.0
	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) LoadModule: "ati"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//ati_drv.so
(II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 6.7.195
	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so
(II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.2.3
	Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
	ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.0
(II) LoadModule: "kbd"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so
(II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.2.2
	Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
	ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.0
(II) ATI: ATI driver wrapper (version 6.7.195) for chipsets: mach64, rage128, radeon
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
(II) Loading sub module "radeon"
(II) LoadModule: "radeon"
(II) Reloading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so
(II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP),
	ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP),
	ATI Radeon VE/7000 QY (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QZ (AGP/PCI),
	ATI ES1000 515E (PCI), ATI ES1000 5969 (PCI),
	ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW (AGP),
	ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 M7 LX (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LZ (AGP),
	ATI Radeon IGP320 (A3) 4136, ATI Radeon IGP320M (U1) 4336,
	ATI Radeon IGP330/340/350 (A4) 4137,
	ATI Radeon IGP330M/340M/350M (U2) 4337,
	ATI Radeon 7000 IGP (A4+) 4237, ATI Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP 4437,
	ATI FireGL 8700/8800 QH (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 QL (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9100 QM (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BB (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BC (AGP), ATI Radeon 7500 QW (AGP/PCI),
	ATI Radeon 7500 QX (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If (AGP/PCI),
	ATI Radeon 9000 Ig (AGP/PCI), ATI FireGL Mobility 9000 (M9) Ld (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lg (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9100 IGP (A5) 5834,
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9100 IGP (U3) 5835, ATI Radeon 9100 PRO IGP 7834,
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 IGP 7835, ATI Radeon 9250 5960 (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9200 5961 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5962 (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP), ATI FireMV 2200 (PCI),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C61 (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C63 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9500 AD (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9500 AE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX AF (AGP),
	ATI FireGL Z1 AG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 Pro ND (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9700/9500Pro NE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX NF (AGP),
	ATI FireGL X1 NG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AP (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9600SE AQ (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600XT AR (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9600 AS (AGP), ATI FireGL T2 AT (AGP),
	ATI FireGL RV360 AV (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9600/9700 (M10/M11) NP (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NQ (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M11) NR (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NS (AGP),
	ATI FireGL Mobility T2 (M10) NT (AGP),
	ATI FireGL Mobility T2e (M11) NV (AGP), ATI Radeon 9650,
	ATI Radeon 9800SE AH (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AI (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9800 AJ (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 AK (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 NI (AGP),
	ATI FireGL X2 NK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800XT NJ (AGP),
	ATI Radeon X600 (RV380) 3E50 (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL V3200 (RV380) 3E54 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon Mobility X600 (M24) 3150 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M24) 3152 (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL M24 GL 3154 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X300 (RV370) 5B60 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X600 (RV370) 5B62 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X550 (RV370) 5B63 (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL V3100 (RV370) 5B64 (PCIE),
	ATI FireMV 2200 PCIE (RV370) 5B65 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M22) 5460 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon Mobility X600 SE (M24C) 5462 (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL M22 GL 5464 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A41 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A42 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A61 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A62 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5954 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5974 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5975 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V5000 (RV410) (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility Radeon X700 XL (M26) (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X700 PRO (RV410) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X700 XT (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 (RV410) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JH (AGP), ATI Radeon X800PRO (R420) JI (AGP),
	ATI Radeon X800SE (R420) JJ (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JK (AGP),
	ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JL (AGP), ATI FireGL X3 (R420) JM (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9800 (M18) JN (AGP),
	ATI Radeon X800XT (R420) JP (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 SE (R420) (AGP),
	ATI Radeon AIW X800 VE (R420) JT (AGP),
	ATI Radeon X800 (R423) UH (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X800PRO (R423) UI (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X800LE (R423) UJ (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X800SE (R423) UK (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL V5100 (R423) UQ (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UR (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UT (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X800XT (R423) 5D57 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V7100 (R423) (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility FireGL V5100 (M28) (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility Radeon X800 (M28) (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility Radeon X800 XT (M28) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X800 (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 XL (R430) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X800 SE (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 XTP (R430) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X850 5D4C (PCIE),
	ATI unknown Radeon / FireGL (R480) 5D50 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (AGP),
	ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (AGP)
(WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
(--) Chipset ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If (AGP/PCI) found
(II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call:
	[0] -1	0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[1] -1	0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0xdf00c000 - 0xdf00ffff (0x4000) MX[B]E
	[5] -1	0	0xdf00a000 - 0xdf00afff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[6] -1	0	0xdf009000 - 0xdf009fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[7] -1	0	0xdf008000 - 0xdf008fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[8] -1	0	0xdf007000 - 0xdf007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[9] -1	0	0xdf006000 - 0xdf006fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[10] -1	0	0xdf004000 - 0xdf004fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[11] -1	0	0xdf000000 - 0xdf003fff (0x4000) MX[B]E
	[12] -1	0	0xdf005000 - 0xdf005fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[13] -1	0	0xd8000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO
	[14] -1	0	0xdd010000 - 0xdd01ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[15] -1	0	0xd4000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
	[16] -1	0	0xdd000000 - 0xdd00ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[17] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
	[18] -1	0	0xdf00b000 - 0xdf00bfff (0x1000) MX[B](B)
	[19] -1	0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[20] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[21] -1	0	0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[22] -1	0	0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bcff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[23] -1	0	0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[24] -1	0	0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[25] -1	0	0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[26] -1	0	0x0000ac00 - 0x0000acff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[27] -1	0	0x0000a800 - 0x0000a8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[28] -1	0	0x0000a400 - 0x0000a4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[29] -1	0	0x0000a000 - 0x0000a0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[30] -1	0	0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[31] -1	0	0x00009000 - 0x000090ff (0x100) IX[B](B)
(II) resource ranges after probing:
	[0] -1	0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[1] -1	0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0xdf00c000 - 0xdf00ffff (0x4000) MX[B]E
	[5] -1	0	0xdf00a000 - 0xdf00afff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[6] -1	0	0xdf009000 - 0xdf009fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[7] -1	0	0xdf008000 - 0xdf008fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[8] -1	0	0xdf007000 - 0xdf007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[9] -1	0	0xdf006000 - 0xdf006fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[10] -1	0	0xdf004000 - 0xdf004fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[11] -1	0	0xdf000000 - 0xdf003fff (0x4000) MX[B]E
	[12] -1	0	0xdf005000 - 0xdf005fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[13] -1	0	0xd8000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO
	[14] -1	0	0xdd010000 - 0xdd01ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[15] -1	0	0xd4000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
	[16] -1	0	0xdd000000 - 0xdd00ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[17] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
	[18] -1	0	0xdf00b000 - 0xdf00bfff (0x1000) MX[B](B)
	[19] 0	0	0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B]
	[20] 0	0	0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B]
	[21] 0	0	0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B]
	[22] -1	0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[23] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[24] -1	0	0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[25] -1	0	0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bcff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[26] -1	0	0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[27] -1	0	0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[28] -1	0	0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[29] -1	0	0x0000ac00 - 0x0000acff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[30] -1	0	0x0000a800 - 0x0000a8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[31] -1	0	0x0000a400 - 0x0000a4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[32] -1	0	0x0000a000 - 0x0000a0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[33] -1	0	0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[34] -1	0	0x00009000 - 0x000090ff (0x100) IX[B](B)
	[35] 0	0	0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B]
	[36] 0	0	0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B]
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(II) RADEON(0): MMIO registers at 0xdd000000: size 64KB
(==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xdd000000,0x10000) was already clear
(II) RADEON(0): PCI bus 1 card 0 func 0
(**) RADEON(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16
(II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth = 16 bits stored in 2 bytes (16 bpp pixmaps)
(==) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(**) RADEON(0): Option "AGPMode" "1"
(**) RADEON(0): Option "EnablePageFlip" "1"
(**) RADEON(0): Option "ColorTiling" "1"
(**) RADEON(0): Option "AccelMethod" "XAA"
(II) Loading sub module "vgahw"
(II) LoadModule: "vgahw"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libvgahw.so
(II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 0.1.0
	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) RADEON(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000
(==) RADEON(0): RGB weight 565
(II) RADEON(0): Using 6 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC)
(II) Loading sub module "int10"
(II) LoadModule: "int10"
(II) Reloading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so
(II) RADEON(0): initializing int10
(==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear
(==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000,0x40000) was already clear
(II) RADEON(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
(==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear
(--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If (AGP/PCI)" (ChipID = 0x4966)
(--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xd0000000
(II) RADEON(0): AGP card detected
(II) RADEON(0): Legacy BIOS detected
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:00.0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 8
drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:00.0
(II) RADEON(0): [dri] Found DRI library version 1.3.0 and kernel module version 1.25.0
(**) RADEON(0): Page Flipping enabled
(II) RADEON(0): Will try to use DMA for Xv image transfers
(II) RADEON(0): Generation 1 PCI interface in multifunction mode, accessible memory limited to one aperture
(II) RADEON(0): Detected total video RAM=65536K, accessible=65536K (PCI BAR=65536K)
(--) RADEON(0): Mapped VideoRAM: 65536 kByte (128 bit DDR SDRAM)
(II) RADEON(0): Color tiling enabled by default
(II) RADEON(0): Max desktop size set to 2048x1200
(II) RADEON(0): For a larger or smaller max desktop size, add a Virtual line to your xorg.conf
(II) RADEON(0): If you are having trouble with 3D, reduce the desktop size by adjusting the Virtual line to your xorg.conf
(II) Loading sub module "ddc"
(II) LoadModule: "ddc"(II) Module "ddc" already built-in
(II) Loading sub module "i2c"
(II) LoadModule: "i2c"(II) Module "i2c" already built-in
(II) RADEON(0): PLL parameters: rf=2700 rd=12 min=20000 max=40000; xclk=20000
(II) RADEON(0): Bios Connector table: 
(II) RADEON(0): Port0: DDCType-3, DACType-0, TMDSType-0, ConnectorType-2
(II) RADEON(0): Port1: DDCType-2, DACType-1, TMDSType-0, ConnectorType-3
(II) RADEON(0): Port5: DDCType-0, DACType-1, TMDSType-2, ConnectorType-6
(II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 using monitor section Monitor0
(II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "VGA_DDC" initialized.
(II) RADEON(0): Output DVI-0 has no monitor section
(II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "DVI_DDC" initialized.
(II) RADEON(0): DFP table revision: 3
(II) RADEON(0): Output S-video has no monitor section
(II) RADEON(0): Default TV standard: PAL
(II) RADEON(0): TV standards supported by chip: NTSC PAL 
(II) RADEON(0): Port0:
 Monitor   -- AUTO
 Connector -- VGA
 DAC Type  -- Primary
 TMDS Type -- None
 DDC Type  -- VGA_DDC
(II) RADEON(0): Port1:
 Monitor   -- AUTO
 Connector -- DVI-I
 DAC Type  -- TVDAC/ExtDAC
 TMDS Type -- Internal
 DDC Type  -- DVI_DDC
(II) RADEON(0): Port2:
 Monitor   -- AUTO
 Connector -- STV
 DAC Type  -- TVDAC/ExtDAC
 TMDS Type -- None
 DDC Type  -- None
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "VGA_DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): DDC Type: 3, Detected Monitor Type: 1
(II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on connector: VGA ----------------------
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: PTS  Model: 76d  Serial#: 154313
(II) RADEON(0): Year: 2005  Week: 34
(II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3
(II) RADEON(0): Analog Display Input,  Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.300 V
(II) RADEON(0): Sync:  Separate
(II) RADEON(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 38  vert.: 30
(II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.50
(II) RADEON(0): DPMS capabilities: Off; RGB/Color Display
(II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing not preferred mode in violation of standard!(II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.646 redY: 0.357   greenX: 0.278 greenY: 0.612
(II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.146 blueY: 0.118   whiteX: 0.310 whiteY: 0.329
(II) RADEON(0): Supported VESA Video Modes:
(II) RADEON(0): 720x400@70Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@60Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@67Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@72Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@56Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@60Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@72Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 832x624@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@60Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@70Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1280x1024@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Supported Future Video Modes:
(II) RADEON(0): #3: hsize: 1280  vsize 1024  refresh: 60  vid: 32897
(II) RADEON(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) RADEON(0): clock: 108.0 MHz   Image Size:  376 x 301 mm
(II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280  h_sync: 1328  h_sync_end 1440 h_blank_end 1688 h_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): v_active: 1024  v_sync: 1025  v_sync_end 1028 v_blanking: 1066 v_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) RADEON(0): clock: 78.8 MHz   Image Size:  376 x 301 mm
(II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1024  h_sync: 1040  h_sync_end 1136 h_blank_end 1312 h_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): v_active: 768  v_sync: 769  v_sync_end 772 v_blanking: 800 v_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Ranges: V min: 60  V max: 75 Hz, H min: 30  H max: 80 kHz, PixClock max 140 MHz
(II) RADEON(0): Serial No: F6RQ580154313
(II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex):
(II) RADEON(0): 	00ffffffffffff0042936d07c95a0200
(II) RADEON(0): 	220f010308261e96286755a55b479c25
(II) RADEON(0): 	1e4f54bfef0001010101010181800101
(II) RADEON(0): 	010101010101302a009851002a403070
(II) RADEON(0): 	1300782d1100001ec31e002041002030
(II) RADEON(0): 	10601300782d11000000000000fd003c
(II) RADEON(0): 	4b1e500e000a202020202020000000ff
(II) RADEON(0): 	00463652513538303135343331330062
finished output detect: 0
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): DDC Type: 2, Detected Monitor Type: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Detected Monitor Type: 0
finished output detect: 1
finished output detect: 2
finished all detect
before xf86InitialConfiguration
(II) RADEON(0): DDC Type: 3, Detected Monitor Type: 1
(II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on connector: VGA ----------------------
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: PTS  Model: 76d  Serial#: 154313
(II) RADEON(0): Year: 2005  Week: 34
(II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3
(II) RADEON(0): Analog Display Input,  Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.300 V
(II) RADEON(0): Sync:  Separate
(II) RADEON(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 38  vert.: 30
(II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.50
(II) RADEON(0): DPMS capabilities: Off; RGB/Color Display
(II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing not preferred mode in violation of standard!(II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.646 redY: 0.357   greenX: 0.278 greenY: 0.612
(II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.146 blueY: 0.118   whiteX: 0.310 whiteY: 0.329
(II) RADEON(0): Supported VESA Video Modes:
(II) RADEON(0): 720x400@70Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@60Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@67Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@72Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@56Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@60Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@72Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 832x624@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@60Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@70Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1280x1024@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Supported Future Video Modes:
(II) RADEON(0): #3: hsize: 1280  vsize 1024  refresh: 60  vid: 32897
(II) RADEON(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) RADEON(0): clock: 108.0 MHz   Image Size:  376 x 301 mm
(II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280  h_sync: 1328  h_sync_end 1440 h_blank_end 1688 h_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): v_active: 1024  v_sync: 1025  v_sync_end 1028 v_blanking: 1066 v_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) RADEON(0): clock: 78.8 MHz   Image Size:  376 x 301 mm
(II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1024  h_sync: 1040  h_sync_end 1136 h_blank_end 1312 h_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): v_active: 768  v_sync: 769  v_sync_end 772 v_blanking: 800 v_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Ranges: V min: 60  V max: 75 Hz, H min: 30  H max: 80 kHz, PixClock max 140 MHz
(II) RADEON(0): Serial No: F6RQ580154313
(II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex):
(II) RADEON(0): 	00ffffffffffff0042936d07c95a0200
(II) RADEON(0): 	220f010308261e96286755a55b479c25
(II) RADEON(0): 	1e4f54bfef0001010101010181800101
(II) RADEON(0): 	010101010101302a009851002a403070
(II) RADEON(0): 	1300782d1100001ec31e002041002030
(II) RADEON(0): 	10601300782d11000000000000fd003c
(II) RADEON(0): 	4b1e500e000a202020202020000000ff
(II) RADEON(0): 	00463652513538303135343331330062
in RADEONProbeOutputModes
(II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "PTS", prod id 1901
(II) RADEON(0): DDCModeFromDetailedTiming: 1024x768 Warning: We only handle seperate sync.
(II) RADEON(0): Using hsync ranges from config file
(II) RADEON(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file
(II) RADEON(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines:
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  108.00  1280 1328 1440 1688  1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   78.75  1024 1040 1136 1312  768 769 772 800 -hsync -vsync (60.0 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   36.00  800 824 896 1024  600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   31.50  640 656 720 840  480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   31.50  640 664 704 832  480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   30.24  640 704 768 864  480 483 486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   25.20  640 656 752 800  480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0   28.32  720 738 846 900  400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  135.00  1280 1296 1440 1688  1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   78.80  1024 1040 1136 1312  768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.1 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   75.00  1024 1048 1184 1328  768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   65.00  1024 1048 1184 1344  768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "832x624"x0.0   57.28  832 864 928 1152  624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   49.50  800 816 896 1056  600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   50.00  800 856 976 1040  600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x59.9  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync (63.7 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "PTS", prod id 1901
(II) RADEON(0): DDCModeFromDetailedTiming: 1024x768 Warning: We only handle seperate sync.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): DDC Type: 2, Detected Monitor Type: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Detected Monitor Type: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 connected
(II) RADEON(0): Output DVI-0 disconnected
(II) RADEON(0): Output S-video disconnected
(II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 using initial mode 1280x1024
after xf86InitialConfiguration
(**) RADEON(0): Display dimensions: (380, 300) mm
(**) RADEON(0): DPI set to (85, 101)
(II) Loading sub module "fb"
(II) LoadModule: "fb"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so
(II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.3
(==) RADEON(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
(II) LoadModule: "ramdac"(II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
(**) RADEON(0): Using XAA acceleration architecture
(II) Loading sub module "xaa"
(II) LoadModule: "xaa"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libxaa.so
(II) Module xaa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.2.0
	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(==) RADEON(0): Assuming overlay scaler buffer width is 1536
(II) RADEON(0): No MM_TABLE found - assuming CARD is not TV-in capable.
(==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear
(!!) RADEON(0): For information on using the multimedia capabilities
	of this adapter, please see http://gatos.sf.net.
(!!) RADEON(0): MergedFB support has been removed and replaced with xrandr 1.2 support
(II) do I need RAC?  No, I don't.
(II) resource ranges after preInit:
	[0] 0	0	0xdd000000 - 0xdd00ffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[1] 0	0	0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[3] -1	0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[6] -1	0	0xdf00c000 - 0xdf00ffff (0x4000) MX[B]E
	[7] -1	0	0xdf00a000 - 0xdf00afff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[8] -1	0	0xdf009000 - 0xdf009fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[9] -1	0	0xdf008000 - 0xdf008fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[10] -1	0	0xdf007000 - 0xdf007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[11] -1	0	0xdf006000 - 0xdf006fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[12] -1	0	0xdf004000 - 0xdf004fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[13] -1	0	0xdf000000 - 0xdf003fff (0x4000) MX[B]E
	[14] -1	0	0xdf005000 - 0xdf005fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
	[15] -1	0	0xd8000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO
	[16] -1	0	0xdd010000 - 0xdd01ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[17] -1	0	0xd4000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
	[18] -1	0	0xdd000000 - 0xdd00ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[19] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
	[20] -1	0	0xdf00b000 - 0xdf00bfff (0x1000) MX[B](B)
	[21] 0	0	0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprU)
	[22] 0	0	0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprU)
	[23] 0	0	0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprU)
	[24] 0	0	0x00009000 - 0x000090ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[25] -1	0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[26] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[27] -1	0	0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[28] -1	0	0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bcff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[29] -1	0	0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[30] -1	0	0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[31] -1	0	0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[32] -1	0	0x0000ac00 - 0x0000acff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[33] -1	0	0x0000a800 - 0x0000a8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[34] -1	0	0x0000a400 - 0x0000a4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[35] -1	0	0x0000a000 - 0x0000a0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[36] -1	0	0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[37] -1	0	0x00009000 - 0x000090ff (0x100) IX[B](B)
	[38] 0	0	0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU)
	[39] 0	0	0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU)
(==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xdd000000,0x10000) was already clear
(==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xd0000000,0x4000000)
(==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear
Entering TV Save
Save TV timing tables
saveTimingTables: reading timing tables
TV Save done
(==) RADEON(0): Using 16 bit depth buffer
(II) RADEON(0): RADEONInitMemoryMap() : 
(II) RADEON(0):   mem_size         : 0x04000000
(II) RADEON(0):   MC_FB_LOCATION   : 0xd3ffd000
(II) RADEON(0):   MC_AGP_LOCATION  : 0xffffffc0
(II) RADEON(0): Depth moves disabled by default
(II) RADEON(0): CP in BM mode
(II) RADEON(0): Using 8 MB GART aperture
(II) RADEON(0): Using 1 MB for the ring buffer
(II) RADEON(0): Using 2 MB for vertex/indirect buffers
(II) RADEON(0): Using 5 MB for GART textures
(II) RADEON(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1280,8191)
(II) RADEON(0): Reserved area from (0,1200) to (1280,1202)
(II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 6989
(II) RADEON(0): Will use front buffer at offset 0x0
(II) RADEON(0): Will use back buffer at offset 0xc1c000
(II) RADEON(0): Will use depth buffer at offset 0xf0a000
(II) RADEON(0): Will use 47104 kb for textures at offset 0x11f8000
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:00.0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 8
drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:00.0
(II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.2
(II) [drm] DRM open master succeeded.
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] Using the DRM lock SAREA also for drawables.
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xd0000000
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) RADEON(0): X context handle = 0x1
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler
(**) RADEON(0): Using AGP 1x
(II) RADEON(0): [agp] Mode 0x1f000201 [AGP 0x0000/0x0000; Card 0x1002/0x4966]
(II) RADEON(0): [agp] 8192 kB allocated with handle 0xc234b740
(II) RADEON(0): [agp] ring handle = 0xd8000000
(II) RADEON(0): [agp] Ring mapped at 0x2ca51000
(II) RADEON(0): [agp] ring read ptr handle = 0xd8101000
(II) RADEON(0): [agp] Ring read ptr mapped at 0x28834000
(II) RADEON(0): [agp] vertex/indirect buffers handle = 0xd8102000
(II) RADEON(0): [agp] Vertex/indirect buffers mapped at 0x2cb52000
(II) RADEON(0): [agp] GART texture map handle = 0xd8302000
(II) RADEON(0): [agp] GART Texture map mapped at 0x2cd52000
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] register handle = 0xdd000000
(II) RADEON(0): [dri] Visual configs initialized
init memmap
init common
init crtc1
init pll1
restore memmap
(II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() : 
(II) RADEON(0):   MC_FB_LOCATION   : 0xd3ffd000
(II) RADEON(0):   MC_AGP_LOCATION  : 0xffffffc0
restore common
restore crtc1
restore pll1
finished PLL1
restore dac
enable montype: 1
(WW) RADEON(0): No crtc mode list for crtc 1,continuing with desired mode
disable montype: 1
(**) RADEON(0): Option "BackingStore" "true"
(**) RADEON(0): Backing store enabled
(II) RADEON(0): [DRI] installation complete
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] Added 32 65536 byte vertex/indirect buffers
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] Mapped 32 vertex/indirect buffers
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 12
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] Initialized kernel GART heap manager, 5111808
(WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ...
(WW) RADEON(0):   MC_FB_LOCATION  was: 0xd3ffd000 is: 0xd3ffd000
(WW) RADEON(0):   MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0xffffffc0 is: 0xd87fd800
(II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() : 
(II) RADEON(0):   MC_FB_LOCATION   : 0xd3ffd000
(II) RADEON(0):   MC_AGP_LOCATION  : 0xd87fd800
(II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled
(II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration enabled
(II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)
	Screen to screen bit blits
	Solid filled rectangles
	8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles
	Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion
	Solid Lines
	Scanline Image Writes
	Offscreen Pixmaps
	Setting up tile and stipple cache:
		32 128x128 slots
		32 256x256 slots
		16 512x512 slots
(II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled
(**) Option "dpms"
(**) RADEON(0): DPMS enabled
(==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) RADEON(0): Using hardware cursor (scanline 1202)
(II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 6982
(II) RADEON(0): No video input capabilities detected and no information is provided - disabling multimedia i2c
(II) Loading sub module "theatre_detect"
(II) LoadModule: "theatre_detect"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/multimedia//theatre_detect_drv.so
(II) Module theatre_detect: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) RADEON(0): no multimedia table present, disabling Rage Theatre.
(II) RADEON(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message.
(--) RandR disabled
(II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
(II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
(II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
(II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP
(II) Initializing built-in extension XAccessControlExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
(II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont
(II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
(II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
(II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
(II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE
(II) Loading sub module "GLcore"
(II) LoadModule: "GLcore"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libGLcore.so
(II) Module GLcore: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) GLX: Initialized MESA-PROXY GL provider for screen 0
(II) RADEON(0): Setting screen physical size to 376 x 301
(**) Option "Protocol" "Auto"
(**) Mouse0: Device: "/dev/sysmouse"
(**) Mouse0: Protocol: "Auto"
(**) Option "CorePointer"
(**) Mouse0: always reports core events
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
(**) Option "Buttons" "5"
(==) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
(**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
(**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Mouse0: Buttons: 9
(**) Mouse0: Sensitivity: 1
(**) Option "CoreKeyboard"
(**) Keyboard0: always reports core events
(**) Option "Protocol" "standard"
(**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
(**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc101"
(**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc101"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "pl"
(**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "pl"
(**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off"
(**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled
(II) evaluating device (Keyboard0)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) evaluating device (Mouse0)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE)
(II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0
(II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse
enable montype: 1
(II) RADEON(0): Damage tracking initialized for page flipping
disable montype: 1
(II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() : 
(II) RADEON(0):   MC_FB_LOCATION   : 0x1fff0000
(II) RADEON(0):   MC_AGP_LOCATION  : 0x27ff2000
finished PLL2
finished PLL1
Entering Restore TV
Restore TV PLL
Restore TVHV
Restore TV Restarts
Restore Timing Tables
Restore TV standard
Leaving Restore TV
(==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xc258f000 at 0x28832000
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] Closed DRM master.
FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.

-- 
				pozdrawiam / regards

						Zbigniew Baniewski
From zb at ispid.com.pl  Sat May 10 22:13:37 2008
From: zb at ispid.com.pl (Zbigniew Baniewski)
Date: Sat May 10 22:13:41 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <20080510193445.GA6432@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805102123.22952.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080510193445.GA6432@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
Message-ID: <20080510221334.GA5317@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>

Interesting is difference between FreeBSD's and Linux's drivers. Below
a paragraph from Linux's log - pay attention, that under FreeBSD there
was no "RADEONModeInit()", and no following lines for 800x600 (my default
resolution):


(II) RADEON(0): [dri] Visual configs initialized  
(**) RADEON(0): DRI New memory map param
(**) RADEON(0): RADEONInitMemoryMap() : 
(**) RADEON(0):   mem_size         : 0x04000000
(**) RADEON(0):   MC_FB_LOCATION   : 0xd3ffd000
(**) RADEON(0):   MC_AGP_LOCATION  : 0xffffffc0
(**) RADEON(0): RADEONModeInit()
800x600        49.50   800  816  896 1056   600  601  604  625 (16,16) +H +V
800x600        49.50   800  816  896 1056   600  601  604  625 (16,16) +H +V
(**) RADEON(0): Pitch = 10485920 bytes (virtualX = 1280, displayWidth = 1280)
(**) RADEON(0): dc=4950, of=39600, fd=176, pd=8
(**) RADEON(0): RADEONInit returns 0x81ff518   
(**) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMode()
(**) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMode(0x81ff518)
(**) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() :
(**) RADEON(0):   MC_FB_LOCATION   : 0xd3ffd000 
(**) RADEON(0):   MC_AGP_LOCATION  : 0xffffffc0 
(**) RADEON(0):   Map Changed ! Applying ...    
(**) RADEON(0):   Map applied, resetting engine ...
(**) RADEON(0): Updating display base addresses... 
(**) RADEON(0): Memory map updated.
(**) RADEON(0): Programming CRTC1, offset: 0x00000000
(**) RADEON(0): Wrote: 0x0000000c 0x000300b0 0x00000000 (0x0000a400)
(**) RADEON(0): Wrote: 0x0000000c 0x000300b0 0x00000000 (0x0000a400)
(**) RADEON(0): Wrote: rd=12, fd=176, pd=3
(**) RADEON(0): GRPH_BUFFER_CNTL from 20205c5c to 20035c5c
(**) RADEON(0): RADEONSaveScreen(0)
(II) RADEON(0): Depth moves disabled by default
(**) RADEON(0): Setting up initial surfaces
(**) RADEON(0): Initializing fb layer
(**) RADEON(0): Setting up accel memmap
(II) RADEON(0): CP in BM mode
(II) RADEON(0): Using 8 MB GART aperture
(II) RADEON(0): Using 1 MB for the ring buffer
(II) RADEON(0): Using 2 MB for vertex/indirect buffers
(II) RADEON(0): Using 5 MB for GART textures
(II) RADEON(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1280,8191)
(II) RADEON(0): Reserved area from (0,1024) to (1280,1026)
(II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 7165
(II) RADEON(0): Will use back buffer at offset 0xa00000
(II) RADEON(0): Will use depth buffer at offset 0xc80000
(II) RADEON(0): Will use 50176 kb for textures at offset 0xf00000
(**) RADEON(0): Initializing backing store
(==) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled
(**) RADEON(0): DRI Finishing init !  
(II) RADEON(0): X context handle = 0x1
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler
(II) RADEON(0): [DRI] installation complete


But what causes the problem?
-- 
				pozdrawiam / regards

						Zbigniew Baniewski
From zb at ispid.com.pl  Sun May 11 00:26:29 2008
From: zb at ispid.com.pl (Zbigniew Baniewski)
Date: Sun May 11 00:26:34 2008
Subject: More info...
In-Reply-To: <20080510221334.GA5317@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805102123.22952.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080510193445.GA6432@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<20080510221334.GA5317@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
Message-ID: <20080511002626.GA5522@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>

As one can see in the thread:
   
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-March/022431.html

...one can't even use such workaround, like creating one's own "modelines".
Yes, I tried to - but no desired effect.

Obviously the radeon driver needs fixing - it's seriously flawed by now.
-- 
				pozdrawiam / regards

						Zbigniew Baniewski
From hardware at ee.ccny.cuny.edu  Sun May 11 02:46:28 2008
From: hardware at ee.ccny.cuny.edu (Kurt Rosenfeld)
Date: Sun May 11 02:46:33 2008
Subject: snd_csa driver problem in 7.0-RELEASE on IBM T20
Message-ID: <20080511014926.GB7610@eesfc24.engr.ccny.cuny.edu>

Hello,

I'm running 7.0-RELEASE with the GENERIC kernel.  The sound
chip in my IBM T20 laptop uses the snd_csa driver.  When I
kldload the snd_csa driver, this is written to the system
log:

csa0: <CS4280/CS4614/CS4622/CS4624/CS4630> mem 0xe8100000-0xe8100fff,0xe8000000-0xe80fffff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci0
csa: card is Thinkpad 600X/A20/T20
csa0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
csa0: [ITHREAD]
device_attach: csa0 attach returned 6

and there is no /dev/dsp* driver.  kldstat gives
this:

$ kldstat
Id Refs Address    Size     Name
 1    9 0xc0400000 906518   kernel
 2    1 0xc0d07000 6a32c    acpi.ko
 3    1 0xc23f8000 22000    linux.ko
 4    1 0xc27a5000 7000     snd_csa.ko
 5    2 0xc27ac000 3f000    sound.ko

I tested it on two T20 laptops with the same result.
It works under Linux.  Any idea what the problem
might be?  thanks, -kurt

Here is the complete dmesg output:

Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008
    root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel Pentium III (189.32-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x683  Stepping = 3
  Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
real memory  = 268369920 (255 MB)
avail memory = 248623104 (237 MB)
kbd1 at kbdmux0
ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 19:59:27)
acpi0: <PTLTD   RSDT> on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 100000, ff00000 (3) failed
Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0
acpi_ec0: <Embedded Controller: GPE 0x9, GLK> port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0
cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
acpi_throttle0: <ACPI CPU Throttling> on cpu0
acpi_lid0: <Control Method Lid Switch> on acpi0
acpi_button0: <Sleep Button> on acpi0
pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
agp0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on hostb0
pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> mem 0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1
cbb0: <TI1450 PCI-CardBus Bridge> mem 0x50000000-0x50000fff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0
cardbus0: <CardBus bus> on cbb0
pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0
cbb0: [ITHREAD]
cbb1: <TI1450 PCI-CardBus Bridge> mem 0x50100000-0x50100fff irq 11 at device 2.1 on pci0
cardbus1: <CardBus bus> on cbb1
pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1
cbb1: [ITHREAD]
pci0: <multimedia, audio> at device 5.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 UDMA33 controller> port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1800-0x180f at device 7.1 on pci0
ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
ata0: [ITHREAD]
ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
ata1: [ITHREAD]
uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> port 0x1820-0x183f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci0: [ITHREAD]
usb0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb0
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: <bridge> at device 7.3 (no driver attached)
acpi_tz0: <Thermal Zone> on acpi0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: [ITHREAD]
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
fdc0: <floppy drive controller (FDE)> port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
fdc0: [FILTER]
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
battery0: <ACPI Control Method Battery> on acpi0
acpi_acad0: <AC Adapter> on acpi0
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
pmtimer0 on isa0
orm0: <ISA Option ROMs> at iomem 0xc0000-0xcbfff,0xe0000-0xeffff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: <Parallel port bus> on ppc0
ppbus0: [ITHREAD]
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ppc0: [ITHREAD]
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 8250 or not responding
sio0: [FILTER]
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
Timecounter "TSC" frequency 189322216 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
hptrr: no controller detected.
wi0: <Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE> at port 0x100-0x13f irq 11 function 0 config 1 on pccard1
wi0: [ITHREAD]
wi0: using Lucent Technologies, WaveLAN/IEEE
wi0: Lucent Firmware: Station (8.10.1)
wi0: Ethernet address: 00:02:2d:1f:c0:24
ad0: 19077MB <IBM DJSA-220 JS4IAC6A> at ata0-master UDMA33
acd0: CDRW <DW-28E/2.1A> at ata1-master UDMA33
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
wi0: link state changed to DOWN
csa0: <CS4280/CS4614/CS4622/CS4624/CS4630> mem 0xe8100000-0xe8100fff,0xe8000000-0xe80fffff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci0
csa: card is Thinkpad 600X/A20/T20
csa0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
csa0: [ITHREAD]
device_attach: csa0 attach returned 6
From shoesoft at gmx.net  Sun May 11 07:23:44 2008
From: shoesoft at gmx.net (Stefan Ehmann)
Date: Sun May 11 07:23:46 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <20080510193445.GA6432@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805102123.22952.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080510193445.GA6432@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
Message-ID: <200805110923.40726.shoesoft@gmx.net>

On Saturday 10 May 2008 21:34:45 Zbigniew Baniewski wrote:
> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 09:23:22PM +0200, Stefan Ehmann wrote:
> > The xorg log file might reveal the source of the problem.
>
> So, here it is:
> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"


In another posting you said:
> > One thing you could check on is how many xorg.conf files you have on
> > the system.
> 
> Just one: /etc/xorg.conf

So xorg is using /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you're editing /etc/xorg.conf. Or was 
that just a typo?

Otherwise, I dont' see anything obvious in the log file -- but I'm no xorg 
expert :)

-- 
Stefan
From zb at ispid.com.pl  Sun May 11 09:52:03 2008
From: zb at ispid.com.pl (Zbigniew Baniewski)
Date: Sun May 11 09:52:07 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <200805110923.40726.shoesoft@gmx.net>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805102123.22952.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080510193445.GA6432@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805110923.40726.shoesoft@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20080511095201.GA5278@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 09:23:40AM +0200, Stefan Ehmann wrote:

> > Just one: /etc/xorg.conf
> 
> So xorg is using /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you're editing /etc/xorg.conf. Or was 
> that just a typo?

Sorry: of course, it was a typo.

> Otherwise, I dont' see anything obvious in the log file -- but I'm no xorg 
> expert :)

As i wrote: the lack of RADEONModeInit() (comparing to paragraph from log
taken from Linux) is strange to me. Yes, I'm aware, there surely must be
some differences between the Linux and FreeBSD versions.
-- 
				pozdrawiam / regards

						Zbigniew Baniewski
From jabberw at mail.ru  Sun May 11 18:20:05 2008
From: jabberw at mail.ru (Denis)
Date: Sun May 11 18:20:07 2008
Subject: kern/83697: [snd_mss] [patch] support,
	docs added for full-duplex, input mixer CS4236B mss driver
Message-ID: <200805111820.m4BIK48F039743@freefall.freebsd.org>

The following reply was made to PR kern/83697; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Denis <jabberw@mail.ru>
To: bug-followup@freebsd.org
Cc:  
Subject: Re: kern/83697: [snd_mss] [patch] support, docs added for full-duplex, input mixer CS4236B mss driver
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 00:43:58 +0600

 Please open pr back, I could help testing any patchset on Dell Optiplex GX1
 
 -- 
From bugmaster at FreeBSD.org  Mon May 12 11:07:02 2008
From: bugmaster at FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD bugmaster)
Date: Mon May 12 11:07:11 2008
Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID: <200805121107.m4CB7169038074@freefall.freebsd.org>

Current FreeBSD problem reports
Critical problems
Serious problems

S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/63204   multimedia [sound] /dev/mixer broken with ESS Maestro-2E (still o
o kern/79905   multimedia [sound] sis7018 sound module problem
o kern/79912   multimedia [sound] sound broken for 2 VIA chipsets: interrupt sto
o kern/81146   multimedia [sound] Sound isn't working AT ALL for Sis7012 onboard
o kern/82043   multimedia [sound] snd_emu10k1 - mixer does not work.
o kern/94279   multimedia [snd_neomagic] snd_neomagic crashes on FreeBSD 5.4 and
o kern/96538   multimedia [sound] emu10k1-driver inverts channels
o kern/97535   multimedia [snd_mss] doesn't work in 6.0-RELEASE and above for Cr
o kern/98167   multimedia [sound] [es137x] [patch] ES1370 mixer volumes incorrec
o kern/98752   multimedia [sound] Intel ich6 82801 FB - on Packard Bell A8810 la
o kern/104626  multimedia [sound] FreeBSD 6.2 does not support SoundBlaster Audi
o kern/104874  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] kldload snd_emu10k1 hangs system
o kern/107051  multimedia [sound] only 2 channels output works for the ALC850 (o
o kern/107516  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] - skips, clicks and lag after a day of h
o kern/114760  multimedia [snd_cmi] snd_cmi driver causing sporadic system hangs
o kern/115666  multimedia [sound] Microphone does not work
o ports/118104 multimedia [PATCH] multimedia/vlc - volume bar position almost in
o kern/119181  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda needs doesn't recognise headphones o
o kern/119759  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] Can not record anything with emu10k1 on 
o kern/120144  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda plays sound on all outputs
o kern/121156  multimedia [sound]: [PATCH] Turn on inverted external amplifier s
o kern/122086  multimedia [sound] maestro sound driver is working, but mixer ini
o ports/122305 multimedia multimedia/gstreame - gst-inspect-0.10 hangs when chec
o ports/123327 multimedia Port fix: graphics/libcaca - CONFIGURE_ENV incorrectly

24 problems total.

Non-critical problems

S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/23546   multimedia [snd_csa] [patch] csa DMA-interrupt problem
o kern/37600   multimedia [sound] [partial patch] t4dwave drive doesn't record.
s kern/60599   multimedia [bktr] [partial patch] No sound for ATI TV Wonder (ste
o kern/60677   multimedia [sound] [patch] No reaction of volume controy key on I
o kern/72995   multimedia [sound] Intel ICH2 (82801BA) - sound nearly inaudible
o kern/79678   multimedia [sound] sound works except recording from any source
f kern/80465   multimedia [sound] pcm0:record:0: record interrupt timeout (Acer 
o kern/80632   multimedia [sound] pcm driver missing support for CMI8738 auxilla
s kern/83697   multimedia [snd_mss] [patch] support, docs added for full-duplex,
o kern/87782   multimedia [sound] snd_t4dwave and pcm0:record:0: record interrup
o kern/92512   multimedia [sound] distorted mono output with emu10k1
o kern/93986   multimedia [sound] Acer TravelMate 4652LMi pcm0 channel dead
o kern/95086   multimedia [sound] uaudio line in problem with sbdm lx
o kern/97609   multimedia [sound] Load Sound Module - VIA8233 - fails
o kern/98496   multimedia [snd_ich] some functions don't work in my sound kernel
o kern/98504   multimedia [sound] Sound is distorted with SB Live 5.1
o kern/100859  multimedia [snd_ich] snd_ich broken on GIGABYTE 915 system
o kern/101417  multimedia [sound] 4-speakers output not possible on Asus A8V-Del
o kern/111767  multimedia [sound] ATI SB450 High Definition Audio Controller sou
s kern/113950  multimedia [sound] [patch] [request] add per-vchan mixer support
f ports/114573 multimedia multimedia/vlc-devel doesn't compile when the QT4 opti
o kern/115300  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda(4) fails to attach on -CURRENT [regr
o kern/117599  multimedia [sound] Audio routing problem NVIDIA MCP51 HDA
o kern/117729  multimedia [snd_hda] microphone is not working with snd_hda on Fr
o ports/117810 multimedia multimedia/vlc-devel port could be compiled with lua m
o ports/117824 multimedia CONFIGURE_LINE truncated to 2048 chars in [at least] m
o ports/118168 multimedia [patch] multimedia/transcode - Add WITHOUT_X11 and WIT
o ports/118237 multimedia Ports: multimedia/ffmpeg fix configure option and add 
o ports/118289 multimedia port of multimedia/tovid only semi works on 6.2 Releas
o kern/119671  multimedia [snd_hda] line is mic and mic is line on Fujitsu Sieme
o kern/119931  multimedia [sound] No sound card detected on ASUS "K8V-X SE R2.00
o kern/119973  multimedia [snd_maestro] snd_maestro only works after reload [reg
o kern/120780  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda doesn't work on Dell Latitutude D530
o kern/120857  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] snd_emu10k1 driver issues a warning on u
o ports/121662 multimedia graphics/libcaca - not bumped after imlib2 upgrade
o ports/122899 multimedia [PATCH] audio/liba52: powerpc build requires -fPIC
o ports/122922 multimedia [ patch ] multimedia/ffmpeg text output is mangled
o ports/122967 multimedia Port fix: multimedia/y4mscaler - Define missing symbol
o ports/122984 multimedia Port fix: multimedia/dirac-reference - Fix pkg-plist
o ports/123409 multimedia [Patch] ports:multimedia/ffmpeg fix WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFL

40 problems total.

From gpalmer at freebsd.org  Tue May 13 00:36:05 2008
From: gpalmer at freebsd.org (Gary Palmer)
Date: Tue May 13 00:36:07 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <20080511095201.GA5278@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805102123.22952.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080510193445.GA6432@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805110923.40726.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080511095201.GA5278@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
Message-ID: <20080513003603.GA11033@in-addr.com>

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:52:01AM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote:
> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 09:23:40AM +0200, Stefan Ehmann wrote:
> 
> > > Just one: /etc/xorg.conf
> > 
> > So xorg is using /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you're editing /etc/xorg.conf. Or was 
> > that just a typo?
> 
> Sorry: of course, it was a typo.
> 
> > Otherwise, I dont' see anything obvious in the log file -- but I'm no xorg 
> > expert :)
> 
> As i wrote: the lack of RADEONModeInit() (comparing to paragraph from log
> taken from Linux) is strange to me. Yes, I'm aware, there surely must be
> some differences between the Linux and FreeBSD versions.

What version of xorg are you using on Linux and on FreeBSD?

X -version

should tell you

I might have missed it in an earlier e-mail, but what resolution does
FreeBSD come up in?  

xdpyinfo

should tell you that

Gary

From CQG00620 at nifty.ne.jp  Tue May 13 11:57:55 2008
From: CQG00620 at nifty.ne.jp (WATANABE Kazuhiro)
Date: Tue May 13 11:58:02 2008
Subject: snd_csa driver problem in 7.0-RELEASE on IBM T20
In-Reply-To: <20080511014926.GB7610@eesfc24.engr.ccny.cuny.edu>
References: <20080511014926.GB7610@eesfc24.engr.ccny.cuny.edu>
Message-ID: <20080513113614.27E3D5C0C7@mail.asahi-net.or.jp>

Hi.

At Sat, 10 May 2008 21:49:26 -0400,
Kurt Rosenfeld wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm running 7.0-RELEASE with the GENERIC kernel.  The sound
> chip in my IBM T20 laptop uses the snd_csa driver.  When I
> kldload the snd_csa driver, this is written to the system
> log:
> 
> csa0: <CS4280/CS4614/CS4622/CS4624/CS4630> mem 0xe8100000-0xe8100fff,0xe8000000-0xe80fffff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci0
> csa: card is Thinkpad 600X/A20/T20
> csa0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> csa0: [ITHREAD]
> device_attach: csa0 attach returned 6
> 
> and there is no /dev/dsp* driver.  kldstat gives
> this:
> 
> $ kldstat
> Id Refs Address    Size     Name
>  1    9 0xc0400000 906518   kernel
>  2    1 0xc0d07000 6a32c    acpi.ko
>  3    1 0xc23f8000 22000    linux.ko
>  4    1 0xc27a5000 7000     snd_csa.ko
>  5    2 0xc27ac000 3f000    sound.ko
> 
> I tested it on two T20 laptops with the same result.
> It works under Linux.  Any idea what the problem
> might be?  thanks, -kurt
> 
> Here is the complete dmesg output:
> 
> Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
> 	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008
>     root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
> CPU: Intel Pentium III (189.32-MHz 686-class CPU)
>   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x683  Stepping = 3
>   Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
> real memory  = 268369920 (255 MB)
> avail memory = 248623104 (237 MB)
> kbd1 at kbdmux0
> ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
> hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 19:59:27)
> acpi0: <PTLTD   RSDT> on motherboard
> acpi0: [ITHREAD]
> acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
> acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed
> acpi0: reservation of 100000, ff00000 (3) failed
> Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850
> acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0
> acpi_ec0: <Embedded Controller: GPE 0x9, GLK> port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0
> cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
> acpi_throttle0: <ACPI CPU Throttling> on cpu0
> acpi_lid0: <Control Method Lid Switch> on acpi0
> acpi_button0: <Sleep Button> on acpi0
> pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
> pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
> agp0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on hostb0
> pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
> pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
> vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> mem 0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1
> cbb0: <TI1450 PCI-CardBus Bridge> mem 0x50000000-0x50000fff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0
> cardbus0: <CardBus bus> on cbb0
> pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0
> cbb0: [ITHREAD]
> cbb1: <TI1450 PCI-CardBus Bridge> mem 0x50100000-0x50100fff irq 11 at device 2.1 on pci0
> cardbus1: <CardBus bus> on cbb1
> pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1
> cbb1: [ITHREAD]
> pci0: <multimedia, audio> at device 5.0 (no driver attached)
> isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
> isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
> atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 UDMA33 controller> port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1800-0x180f at device 7.1 on pci0
> ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
> ata0: [ITHREAD]
> ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
> ata1: [ITHREAD]
> uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> port 0x1820-0x183f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0
> uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> uhci0: [ITHREAD]
> usb0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> on uhci0
> usb0: USB revision 1.0
> uhub0: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb0
> uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> pci0: <bridge> at device 7.3 (no driver attached)
> acpi_tz0: <Thermal Zone> on acpi0
> atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
> atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
> kbd0 at atkbd0
> atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
> psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
> psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> psm0: [ITHREAD]
> psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
> fdc0: <floppy drive controller (FDE)> port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
> fdc0: [FILTER]
> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> sio0: port may not be enabled
> battery0: <ACPI Control Method Battery> on acpi0
> acpi_acad0: <AC Adapter> on acpi0
> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> sio0: port may not be enabled
> pmtimer0 on isa0
> orm0: <ISA Option ROMs> at iomem 0xc0000-0xcbfff,0xe0000-0xeffff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0
> ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa0
> ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
> ppbus0: <Parallel port bus> on ppc0
> ppbus0: [ITHREAD]
> plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
> lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
> lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
> ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
> ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> ppc0: [ITHREAD]
> sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
> sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> sio0: port may not be enabled
> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> sio0: port may not be enabled
> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
> sio0: type 8250 or not responding
> sio0: [FILTER]
> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> sio1: port may not be enabled
> vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
> Timecounter "TSC" frequency 189322216 Hz quality 800
> Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
> hptrr: no controller detected.
> wi0: <Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE> at port 0x100-0x13f irq 11 function 0 config 1 on pccard1
> wi0: [ITHREAD]
> wi0: using Lucent Technologies, WaveLAN/IEEE
> wi0: Lucent Firmware: Station (8.10.1)
> wi0: Ethernet address: 00:02:2d:1f:c0:24
> ad0: 19077MB <IBM DJSA-220 JS4IAC6A> at ata0-master UDMA33
> acd0: CDRW <DW-28E/2.1A> at ata1-master UDMA33
> Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
> wi0: link state changed to DOWN
> csa0: <CS4280/CS4614/CS4622/CS4624/CS4630> mem 0xe8100000-0xe8100fff,0xe8000000-0xe80fffff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci0
> csa: card is Thinkpad 600X/A20/T20
> csa0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> csa0: [ITHREAD]
> device_attach: csa0 attach returned 6

How about this (modify DELAY() values)?

 Thinkpad T23 Setup (part 1)
 http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=135463+0+archive/2002/freebsd-mobile/20020519.freebsd-mobile

---
WATANABE Kazuhiro (CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp)
From zb at ispid.com.pl  Tue May 13 12:39:33 2008
From: zb at ispid.com.pl (Zbigniew Baniewski)
Date: Tue May 13 12:39:40 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <20080513003603.GA11033@in-addr.com>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805102123.22952.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080510193445.GA6432@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805110923.40726.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080511095201.GA5278@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<20080513003603.GA11033@in-addr.com>
Message-ID: <20080513123930.GA10693@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 08:36:03PM -0400, Gary Palmer wrote:

> What version of xorg are you using on Linux and on FreeBSD?
> 
> X -version
> 
> should tell you

Linux:

X Window System Version 7.1.1
Release Date: 12 May 2006
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
Build Operating System: UNKNOWN 
Current Operating System: Linux sarge 2.6.25.2 #1 Fri May 9 14:02:28 CEST
2008 i686
Build Date: 24 January 2008
        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
        to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present

====================
FreeBSD (default X-server shipped with "official" 7.0):

X.Org X Server 1.4.0
Release Date: 5 September 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE i386
Current Operating System: FreeBSD sarge.my.own.domain.no-net 7.0-RELEASE
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #2: Sat Apr 19 20:53:27 CEST 2008
root@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SARGE i386
Build Date: 13 February 2008  05:50:12PM

        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
        to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present


> I might have missed it in an earlier e-mail, but what resolution does
> FreeBSD come up in?  
> 
> xdpyinfo

Highest available: 1280x1024

Under Linux I'm using 800x600 (on the "virtual screen" 1280x1024)
-- 
				pozdrawiam / regards

						Zbigniew Baniewski
From smithi at nimnet.asn.au  Tue May 13 15:59:24 2008
From: smithi at nimnet.asn.au (Ian Smith)
Date: Tue May 13 15:59:31 2008
Subject: snd_csa driver problem in 7.0-RELEASE on IBM T20
In-Reply-To: <20080513113614.27E3D5C0C7@mail.asahi-net.or.jp>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.1080514003934.29646P-100000@gaia.nimnet.asn.au>

On Tue, 13 May 2008, WATANABE Kazuhiro wrote:
 > Hi.
 > 
 > At Sat, 10 May 2008 21:49:26 -0400,
 > Kurt Rosenfeld wrote:
 > > Hello,
 > > 
 > > I'm running 7.0-RELEASE with the GENERIC kernel.  The sound
 > > chip in my IBM T20 laptop uses the snd_csa driver.  When I
 > > kldload the snd_csa driver, this is written to the system
 > > log:
 > > 
 > > csa0: <CS4280/CS4614/CS4622/CS4624/CS4630> mem 0xe8100000-0xe8100fff,0xe8000000-0xe80fffff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci0
 > > csa: card is Thinkpad 600X/A20/T20
 > > csa0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 > > csa0: [ITHREAD]
 > > device_attach: csa0 attach returned 6
 > > 
 > > and there is no /dev/dsp* driver.  kldstat gives
 > > this:
 > > 
 > > $ kldstat
 > > Id Refs Address    Size     Name
 > >  1    9 0xc0400000 906518   kernel
 > >  2    1 0xc0d07000 6a32c    acpi.ko
 > >  3    1 0xc23f8000 22000    linux.ko
 > >  4    1 0xc27a5000 7000     snd_csa.ko
 > >  5    2 0xc27ac000 3f000    sound.ko
 > > 
 > > I tested it on two T20 laptops with the same result.
 > > It works under Linux.  Any idea what the problem
 > > might be?  thanks, -kurt

Sorry, no.  But ..

 > > Here is the complete dmesg output:
 > > 
 > > Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
 > > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
 > > 	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
 > > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
 > > FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008
 > >     root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
 > > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
 > > CPU: Intel Pentium III (189.32-MHz 686-class CPU)

The T20 wasn't that slow, was it?  Or is it set slow in BIOS?

[..]

 > > device_attach: csa0 attach returned 6

Yes, 6 is generally bad news.

 > How about this (modify DELAY() values)?
 > 
 >  Thinkpad T23 Setup (part 1)
 >  http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=135463+0+archive/2002/freebsd-mobile/20020519.freebsd-mobile

I don't think that post would be too helpful regarding Kurt's T20.

It's 6 years old, looks like FreeBSD 4.something, using APM rather than
ACPI.  The T23 has quite different hardware throughout than the T20, and
none of the tweaks mentioned were needed by the time I installed FreeBSD
6.1-RELEASE / GENERIC anyway.  Sound (ICH3/AC97) works fine on my T23,
and I doubt it's regressed on 7.x (but expect to soon find out :) 

However there may be some clues on the (only) FLCL T20 listing/thread:

http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_laptop_detail&laptop=1

which initially suggested (suspend/resume) problems needing a patch for
csa, but these were then said to have been fixed by FreeBSD 5.2 or so ..

HTH, Ian

From hardware at ee.ccny.cuny.edu  Tue May 13 19:31:35 2008
From: hardware at ee.ccny.cuny.edu (Kurt Rosenfeld)
Date: Tue May 13 19:31:40 2008
Subject: snd_csa driver problem in 7.0-RELEASE on IBM T20
In-Reply-To: <20080513113614.27E3D5C0C7@mail.asahi-net.or.jp>
References: <20080511014926.GB7610@eesfc24.engr.ccny.cuny.edu>
	<20080513113614.27E3D5C0C7@mail.asahi-net.or.jp>
Message-ID: <20080513193431.GA8416@eesfc24.engr.ccny.cuny.edu>

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 08:36:13PM +0900, WATANABE Kazuhiro wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> At Sat, 10 May 2008 21:49:26 -0400,
> Kurt Rosenfeld wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm running 7.0-RELEASE with the GENERIC kernel.  The sound
> > chip in my IBM T20 laptop uses the snd_csa driver.  When I
> > kldload the snd_csa driver, this is written to the system
> > log:
> > 
> > csa0: <CS4280/CS4614/CS4622/CS4624/CS4630> mem 0xe8100000-0xe8100fff,0xe8000000-0xe80fffff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci0
> > csa: card is Thinkpad 600X/A20/T20
> > csa0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> > csa0: [ITHREAD]
> > device_attach: csa0 attach returned 6
> > 
> > and there is no /dev/dsp* driver.  kldstat gives
> > this:
> > 
> > $ kldstat
> > Id Refs Address    Size     Name
> >  1    9 0xc0400000 906518   kernel
> >  2    1 0xc0d07000 6a32c    acpi.ko
> >  3    1 0xc23f8000 22000    linux.ko
> >  4    1 0xc27a5000 7000     snd_csa.ko
> >  5    2 0xc27ac000 3f000    sound.ko
> > 
> > I tested it on two T20 laptops with the same result.
> > It works under Linux.  Any idea what the problem
> > might be?  thanks, -kurt
> > 
> > Here is the complete dmesg output:
> > 
> > Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
> > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
> > 	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
> > FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008
> >     root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
> > CPU: Intel Pentium III (189.32-MHz 686-class CPU)
> >   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x683  Stepping = 3
> >   Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
> > real memory  = 268369920 (255 MB)
> > avail memory = 248623104 (237 MB)
> > kbd1 at kbdmux0
> > ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
> > hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 19:59:27)
> > acpi0: <PTLTD   RSDT> on motherboard
> > acpi0: [ITHREAD]
> > acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
> > acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed
> > acpi0: reservation of 100000, ff00000 (3) failed
> > Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850
> > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0
> > acpi_ec0: <Embedded Controller: GPE 0x9, GLK> port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0
> > cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
> > acpi_throttle0: <ACPI CPU Throttling> on cpu0
> > acpi_lid0: <Control Method Lid Switch> on acpi0
> > acpi_button0: <Sleep Button> on acpi0
> > pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
> > pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
> > agp0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on hostb0
> > pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
> > pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
> > vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> mem 0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1
> > cbb0: <TI1450 PCI-CardBus Bridge> mem 0x50000000-0x50000fff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0
> > cardbus0: <CardBus bus> on cbb0
> > pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0
> > cbb0: [ITHREAD]
> > cbb1: <TI1450 PCI-CardBus Bridge> mem 0x50100000-0x50100fff irq 11 at device 2.1 on pci0
> > cardbus1: <CardBus bus> on cbb1
> > pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1
> > cbb1: [ITHREAD]
> > pci0: <multimedia, audio> at device 5.0 (no driver attached)
> > isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
> > isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
> > atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 UDMA33 controller> port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1800-0x180f at device 7.1 on pci0
> > ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
> > ata0: [ITHREAD]
> > ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
> > ata1: [ITHREAD]
> > uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> port 0x1820-0x183f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0
> > uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> > uhci0: [ITHREAD]
> > usb0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> on uhci0
> > usb0: USB revision 1.0
> > uhub0: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb0
> > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> > pci0: <bridge> at device 7.3 (no driver attached)
> > acpi_tz0: <Thermal Zone> on acpi0
> > atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
> > atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
> > kbd0 at atkbd0
> > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> > atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
> > psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
> > psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> > psm0: [ITHREAD]
> > psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
> > fdc0: <floppy drive controller (FDE)> port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
> > fdc0: [FILTER]
> > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> > sio0: port may not be enabled
> > battery0: <ACPI Control Method Battery> on acpi0
> > acpi_acad0: <AC Adapter> on acpi0
> > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> > sio0: port may not be enabled
> > pmtimer0 on isa0
> > orm0: <ISA Option ROMs> at iomem 0xc0000-0xcbfff,0xe0000-0xeffff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0
> > ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa0
> > ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
> > ppbus0: <Parallel port bus> on ppc0
> > ppbus0: [ITHREAD]
> > plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
> > lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
> > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
> > ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
> > ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> > ppc0: [ITHREAD]
> > sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
> > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
> > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> > sio0: port may not be enabled
> > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> > sio0: port may not be enabled
> > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
> > sio0: type 8250 or not responding
> > sio0: [FILTER]
> > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> > sio1: port may not be enabled
> > vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
> > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 189322216 Hz quality 800
> > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
> > hptrr: no controller detected.
> > wi0: <Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE> at port 0x100-0x13f irq 11 function 0 config 1 on pccard1
> > wi0: [ITHREAD]
> > wi0: using Lucent Technologies, WaveLAN/IEEE
> > wi0: Lucent Firmware: Station (8.10.1)
> > wi0: Ethernet address: 00:02:2d:1f:c0:24
> > ad0: 19077MB <IBM DJSA-220 JS4IAC6A> at ata0-master UDMA33
> > acd0: CDRW <DW-28E/2.1A> at ata1-master UDMA33
> > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
> > wi0: link state changed to DOWN
> > csa0: <CS4280/CS4614/CS4622/CS4624/CS4630> mem 0xe8100000-0xe8100fff,0xe8000000-0xe80fffff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci0
> > csa: card is Thinkpad 600X/A20/T20
> > csa0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> > csa0: [ITHREAD]
> > device_attach: csa0 attach returned 6
> 
> How about this (modify DELAY() values)?
> 
>  Thinkpad T23 Setup (part 1)
>  http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=135463+0+archive/2002/freebsd-mobile/20020519.freebsd-mobile
> 
> ---
> WATANABE Kazuhiro (CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp)

Thanks for your response.  Since posting, I noticed that the soundcard
works when ACPI is disabled at the startup menu.  Is this a useful
clue?  -kurt
From aragon at phat.za.net  Tue May 13 21:12:00 2008
From: aragon at phat.za.net (Aragon Gouveia)
Date: Tue May 13 21:12:04 2008
Subject: snd_hda weirdness
Message-ID: <20080513204021.GA27193@phat.za.net>

Hi,

I've noticed some strange behaviour with snd_hda.  My fairly new Intel board
has two High Def sound devices onboard.  One 82801I device and an ATI HDMI
device.  The 82801I device uses a Realtek ALC888 codec which snd_hda picks
up fine.  The ATI device uses an unknown codec.

If snd_hda is enabled via loader.conf it assigns the 82801I pcm1 and the ATI
pcm0.  If snd_hda is loaded manually after bootup the pcm unit numbers get
assigned in reverse.

The annoying part is that if snd_hda is enabled via loader.conf the 82801I
(pcm1) is unusable:

# dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/dsp1 bs=64 count=100
pcm1:virtual:dsp1.vp0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead
dd: /dev/dsp1: Invalid argument
65+0 records in
64+0 records out
4096 bytes transferred in 5.032943 secs (814 bytes/sec)


The only way to get it working is to load snd_hda manually after bootup.

This is on an Intel DG33BU board.  I suspect this might trip more people up
in future with HDMI adoption becoming popular now.  Any ideas on a fix?


Regards,
Aragon


P.S. full dmesg below



May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Wed Apr 30 21:19:17 UTC 2008
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: root@igor.geek.sh:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IGOR
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8500  @ 3.16GHz (3185.31-MHz K8-class CPU)
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x10676  Stepping = 6
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: Features2=0x8e3fd<SSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,<b19>>
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: AMD Features=0x20100800<SYSCALL,NX,LM>
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: AMD Features2=0x1<LAHF>
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: Cores per package: 2
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usable memory = 8509485056 (8115 MB)
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: avail memory  = 8224763904 (7843 MB)
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ACPI APIC Table: <INTEL  DG33BU  >
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ioapic0 <Version 2.0> irqs 0-23 on motherboard
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: bktr_mem: memory holder loaded
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: kbd1 at kbdmux0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: acpi0: <INTEL DG33BU> on motherboard
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: acpi0: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: acpi_hpet0: <High Precision Event Timer> iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: est0: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: est0: Setting 3163 MHz
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: p4tcc0: <CPU Frequency Thermal Control> on cpu0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: cpu1: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: est1: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: est1: Setting 3163 MHz
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: p4tcc1: <CPU Frequency Thermal Control> on cpu1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: acpi_button0: <Sleep Button> on acpi0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xe0200000-0xe020ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcm0: <ATI (Unknown) High Definition Audio Controller> mem 0xe0210000-0xe0213fff irq 17 at device 0.1 on pci1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcm0: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pci0: <simple comms> at device 3.0 (no driver attached)
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: em0: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 6.7.3> port 0x4400-0x441f mem 0xe0300000-0xe031ffff,0xe0324000-0xe0324fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: em0: Using MSI interrupt
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: em0: Ethernet address: 00:1c:c0:30:9b:91
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: em0: [FILTER]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci0: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0x40e0-0x40ff irq 18 at device 26.0 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci0: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb0: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub0: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci1: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0x40c0-0x40df irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci1: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb1: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub1: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci2: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0x40a0-0x40bf irq 17 at device 26.2 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci2: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb2: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci2
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb2: USB revision 1.0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub2: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb2
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ehci0: <EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller> mem 0xe0325c00-0xe0325fff irq 17 at device 26.7 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ehci0: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb3: EHCI version 1.0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb3: <EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller> on ehci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb3: USB revision 2.0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub3: <Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb3
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcm1: <Intel 82801I High Definition Audio Controller> mem 0xe0320000-0xe0323fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcm1: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 28.0 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 28.1 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: atapci0: <Marvell 88SX6101 UDMA133 controller> port 0x2018-0x201f,0x2024-0x2027,0x2010-0x2017,0x2020-0x2023,0x2000-0x200f mem 0xe0100000-0xe01001ff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: atapci0: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ata2: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ata2: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcib4: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 28.2 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pci4: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib4
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcib5: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 28.3 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pci5: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib5
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcib6: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 28.4 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pci6: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib6
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci3: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0x4080-0x409f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci3: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb4: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci3
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb4: USB revision 1.0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub4: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb4
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci4: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0x4060-0x407f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci4: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb5: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci4
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb5: USB revision 1.0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub5: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb5
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci5: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0x4040-0x405f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci5: [GIANT-LOCKED]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhci5: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb6: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci5
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb6: USB revision 1.0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub6: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb6
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub6: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ehci1: <EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller> mem 0xe0325800-0xe0325bff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ehci1: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb7: EHCI version 1.0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb7: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb4 usb5 usb6
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb7: <EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller> on ehci1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: usb7: USB revision 2.0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub7: <Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb7
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: uhub7: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcib7: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pci7: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib7
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pci7: <network, ethernet> at device 1.0 (no driver attached)
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pci7: <serial bus, FireWire> at device 3.0 (no driver attached)
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 31.0 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: atapci1: <Intel AHCI controller> port 0x4428-0x442f,0x4434-0x4437,0x4420-0x4427,0x4430-0x4433,0x4020-0x403f mem 0xe0325000-0xe03257ff irq 21 at device 31.2 on pci0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: atapci1: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: atapci1: AHCI Version 01.20 controller with 6 ports detected
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ata3: <ATA channel 0> on atapci1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ata3: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ata4: <ATA channel 1> on atapci1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ata4: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ata5: <ATA channel 2> on atapci1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ata5: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ata6: <ATA channel 3> on atapci1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ata6: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ata7: <ATA channel 4> on atapci1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ata7: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ata8: <ATA channel 5> on atapci1
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ata8: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pci0: <serial bus, SMBus> at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: orm0: <ISA Option ROM> at iomem 0xd2800-0xd3fff on isa0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: kbd0 at atkbd0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ukbd0: <Logitech USB Multimedia Keyboard, class 0/0, rev 1.10/0.70, addr 2> on uhub0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: kbd2 at ukbd0
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ums0: <Microsoft SideWinder? Mouse, class 0/0, rev 2.00/2.25, addr 2> on uhub2
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir.
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ugen0: <vendor 0x0aa8 product 0x8001, class 0/0, rev 1.10/2.02, addr 2> on uhub6
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: acd0: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: acd0: DVDR <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1653S/CS0T> at ata2-master UDMA33
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ad6: 715404MB <Seagate ST3750330AS SD15> at ata3-master SATA300
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: ad8: 715404MB <Seagate ST3750330AS SD15> at ata4-master SATA300
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcm0: <HDA Codec: Unknown Codec>
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcm0: <HDA Driver Revision: 20071129_0050>
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcm1: <HDA Codec: Realtek ALC888>
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: pcm1: <HDA Driver Revision: 20071129_0050>
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror/gm0 launched (2/2).
May 13 22:12:27 <kern.crit> igor kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0a
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From edwin at FreeBSD.org  Wed May 14 19:50:10 2008
From: edwin at FreeBSD.org (edwin@FreeBSD.org)
Date: Wed May 14 19:50:14 2008
Subject: ports/123684: [PATCH] audio/nas: update to 1.9.1
Message-ID: <200805141950.m4EJoASv010191@freefall.freebsd.org>

Synopsis: [PATCH] audio/nas: update to 1.9.1

Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-ports-bugs->freebsd-multimedia
Responsible-Changed-By: edwin
Responsible-Changed-When: Wed May 14 19:50:09 UTC 2008
Responsible-Changed-Why: 
Over to maintainer (via the GNATS Auto Assign Tool)

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=123684
From bms at incunabulum.net  Thu May 15 09:14:19 2008
From: bms at incunabulum.net (Bruce M Simpson)
Date: Thu May 15 09:14:23 2008
Subject: multimedia/mpeg2codec distfile location
Message-ID: <482BFA5D.9040400@incunabulum.net>

Whilst rebuilding my system on an upgrade to 7.0,
I found I had to download the distfile from 
www.mpeg.org/pub_ftp/mpeg/mssg/mpeg2vidcodec_v12.tar.gz.

cheers...
From aragon at phat.za.net  Thu May 15 17:17:43 2008
From: aragon at phat.za.net (Aragon Gouveia)
Date: Thu May 15 17:17:47 2008
Subject: Getting a WinTV PVR-350 working
Message-ID: <20080515171741.GA7870@phat.za.net>

Hi,

I recently purchased a Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350 today.  I'm having difficulty
getting either the pvr250 or pvrxxx ports to work.

The pvr250 port compiled no problem, but it didn't support my 0x75 tuner code
out the box.  My tuner has "FM1216ME/I H-5" printed on it.  Closest I could
find to that in the driver was FM1216ME Mk3 so I added a case for 0x75 just
above 0x39 in cxm_eeprom.c and recompiled.

It now detects my tuner and the cxm driver attaches:

May 15 18:42:01 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: <Conexant iTVC15 MPEG Coder> mem 0xf4000000-0xf7ffffff irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci5
May 15 18:42:01 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm_iic0: <Conexant iTVC15 / iTVC16 I2C controller> on cxm0
May 15 18:42:01 <kern.crit> geek kernel: iicbb0: <I2C bit-banging driver> on cxm_iic0
May 15 18:42:01 <kern.crit> geek kernel: iicbus0: <Philips I2C bus> on iicbb0 master-only
May 15 18:42:01 <kern.crit> geek kernel: iicbus0: <unknown card> at addr 0
May 15 18:42:01 <kern.crit> geek kernel: iicbus0: <unknown card> at addr 0
May 15 18:42:01 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: Philips FM1216ME MK3 tuner
May 15 18:42:01 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: SAA7115 rev 1 video decoder
May 15 18:42:01 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: MSP4418G-B3 audio decoder
May 15 18:42:01 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: IR Remote
May 15 18:42:01 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
May 15 18:42:01 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: [ITHREAD]
May 15 18:42:01 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: encoder firmware version 0x2050032
May 15 18:42:01 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: decoder firmware version 0x2020023

But I'm not able to read a video stream off it.  Trying to cat /dev/cxm0
causes these logged errors:

May 15 18:42:40 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: video decoder isn't locked
May 15 18:45:10 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: video decoder isn't locked

pvr250_setchannel fails to select any of the video inputs:

$ pvr250-setchannel -s   
ioctl( tfd, METEORSINPUT ) failed.: Invalid argument
$ pvr250-setchannel -c
ioctl( tfd, METEORSINPUT ) failed.: Invalid argument
$ pvr250-setchannel -r
$ pvr250-setchannel -t
ioctl( tfd, METEORSINPUT ) failed.: Invalid argument
$ pvr250-setchannel -r

and these errors are logged:

May 15 18:44:35 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: video decoder failed to lock
May 15 18:44:35 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: audio decoder failed to lock
May 15 18:44:59 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: video decoder failed to lock
May 15 18:44:59 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: audio decoder failed to lock


The pvrxxx port fails to compile.  The stock port asks for HcwMakoA.ROM from
the driver CD, but my CD only has HcwMakoB.ROM and HcwMakoC.ROM.

A pvrxxx port posted by usleepless in April last year (version 20070104)
bombs out during compile:

In file included from /usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx/work/modules/cxm/cxm/../../../dev/cxm/cxm.c:86:
../../../dev/cxm/cxm.h:228: error: array type has incomplete element type
In file included from ./v4l2_ioctl_hook.h:6,
                 from /usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx/work/modules/cxm/cxm/../../../dev/cxm/cxm.c:90:
./fbsd-compat.h:62:23: error: inttypes.h: No such file or directory
/usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx/work/modules/cxm/cxm/../../../dev/cxm/cxm.c: In function 'cxm_attach':
/usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx/work/modules/cxm/cxm/../../../dev/cxm/cxm.c:2013: warning: passing argument 4 of 'bus_setup_intr' from incompatible pointer type
/usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx/work/modules/cxm/cxm/../../../dev/cxm/cxm.c:2013: warning: passing argument 5 of 'bus_setup_intr' from incompatible pointer type
/usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx/work/modules/cxm/cxm/../../../dev/cxm/cxm.c:2013: error: too few arguments to function 'bus_setup_intr'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx/work/modules/cxm/cxm.
*** Error code 1


I'm running 7.0-STABLE.  Anyone know how to get either port working?  Thanks
in advance!


Regards,
Aragon
From aragon at phat.za.net  Thu May 15 18:27:48 2008
From: aragon at phat.za.net (Aragon Gouveia)
Date: Thu May 15 18:27:54 2008
Subject: Fwd: pvr-xxx on 7.0
In-Reply-To: <CFAA6030-A326-4B2A-A33A-2867ECCED0D2@doeshosting.com>
References: <F8A4DB3A-80CB-46BB-B4E4-7AC6E6750A3A@doeshosting.com>
	<CFAA6030-A326-4B2A-A33A-2867ECCED0D2@doeshosting.com>
Message-ID: <20080515182746.GA14203@phat.za.net>

| By Jeff <jeff@doeshosting.com>
|                                          [ 2008-05-15 19:40 +0200 ]
> >>the port is updated @  http://usleepless.110mb.com/pvrxxx_port.tgz
> >>
> >>- should build flawless on 7.0
> >>- now unloads firmware-kld-modules
> >>- "make makesum" should not be necessary
> >>- should be able to switch back from svga/composite to tuner
> >>- added 3:2 pulldown control in pvr250-setchannel to see if it  
> >>makes a
> >>difference for anybody
> >>
> >>i observed something strange on 7.0 with this driver. mplayer is now
> >>able to sync a/v properly when doing "mplayer /dev/cxm0". i would  
> >>like
> >>to hear from others about this.
> >>
> >>regards,
> >>
> >>usleepless

Thanks for the update!

The new port compiles and installs fine.  The modules load with the
following logged:

May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: <Conexant iTVC15 MPEG Coder> mem 0xf4000000-0xf7ffffff irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci5
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm_iic0: <Conexant iTVC15 / iTVC16 I2C controller> on cxm0
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel: iicbb0: <I2C bit-banging driver> on cxm_iic0
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel: iicbus0: <Philips I2C bus> on iicbb0 master-only
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel: iicbus0: <unknown card> at addr 0
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel: iicbus0: <unknown card> at addr 0
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: <2>tveeprom: ivtv version
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: <2>tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 48139, rev = K2B7, serial# = 8694227
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: <2>tveeprom: tuner = Philips FM1216ME MK5 (idx = 117, type = 38)
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: <2>tveeprom: tuner fmt = PAL(B/G) PAL(I) SECAM(L/L') PAL(D/K) (eeprom = 0x74, v4l2 = 0x00400e17)
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: <2>tveeprom: audio processor = MSP4418 (type = 19)
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: <2>tveeprom: decoder processor = SAA7115 (type = 13)
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel: tuner type: 38
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: Eeprom PAL
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: tuner: type set to 38 (Philips PAL/SECAM multi (FM1216ME MK3)) by cxm
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: tuner: switching to v4l2
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel: before tuner_command!
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: tuner: tv freq set to 55.25
May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: tuner: tv 0x05 0xe3 0x8e 0x01
May 15 20:17:13 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: SAA7115 rev 1 video decoder
May 15 20:17:13 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: MSP4418G-B3 audio decoder
May 15 20:17:13 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: IR Remote
May 15 20:17:13 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: [ITHREAD]
May 15 20:17:15 <kern.debug> geek kernel: cxm0: encoder firmware version 0x2060039
May 15 20:17:15 <kern.debug> geek kernel: cxm0: decoder firmware version 0x2020023


However, I'm not able to pull video off the device:

# cat /dev/cxm0 >test.mpg
cat: /dev/cxm0: Device not configured

and this gets logged:

May 15 20:17:35 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: video decoder isn't locked
May 15 20:17:35 <kern.debug> geek kernel: Could not detect FPS
May 15 20:17:35 <kern.debug> geek kernel: could not config dec
May 15 20:17:35 <kern.debug> geek kernel: could not start encoder


Trying to select the tuner with pvr250-setchannel results in:

# pvr250-setchannel -t
ioctl( tfd, METEORSINPUT ) failed.: Invalid argument
May 15 20:24:48 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: video decoder failed to lock


Any more help appreciated.  Must be close now. :)


Thanks,
Aragon
From danny at ricin.com  Thu May 15 21:15:09 2008
From: danny at ricin.com (Danny Pansters)
Date: Thu May 15 21:15:12 2008
Subject: Fwd: pvr-xxx on 7.0
In-Reply-To: <20080515182746.GA14203@phat.za.net>
References: <F8A4DB3A-80CB-46BB-B4E4-7AC6E6750A3A@doeshosting.com>
	<CFAA6030-A326-4B2A-A33A-2867ECCED0D2@doeshosting.com>
	<20080515182746.GA14203@phat.za.net>
Message-ID: <200805152315.06436.danny@ricin.com>

On Thursday 15 May 2008 20:27:46 Aragon Gouveia wrote:
> | By Jeff <jeff@doeshosting.com>
> |                                          [ 2008-05-15 19:40 +0200 ]
> |
> > >>the port is updated @  http://usleepless.110mb.com/pvrxxx_port.tgz
> > >>
> > >>- should build flawless on 7.0
> > >>- now unloads firmware-kld-modules
> > >>- "make makesum" should not be necessary
> > >>- should be able to switch back from svga/composite to tuner
> > >>- added 3:2 pulldown control in pvr250-setchannel to see if it
> > >>makes a
> > >>difference for anybody

3:2 pulldown has to do with cinema 24fps that has been "upsampled" to NTSC 
which may cause artifacts when digitized and that's why there are 3:2 
pulldown filters AFAIK. It has nothing to do with the "panning and fast 
movement" artifacts that occur with bktr and cxm video decoders, especially 
when scaled down to sizes divisable by 16. As I understand it, this is the 
result of a poor comb filter. Ffmpeg's deinterlace function eliminates this 
problem completely on my PVR-150 (using kbtv2's backend which is almost the 
same as ffplay).

> > >>
> > >>i observed something strange on 7.0 with this driver. mplayer is now
> > >>able to sync a/v properly when doing "mplayer /dev/cxm0". i would
> > >>like
> > >>to hear from others about this.
> > >>
> > >>regards,
> > >>
> > >>usleepless
>
> Thanks for the update!
>
> The new port compiles and installs fine.  The modules load with the
> following logged:
>
> May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: <Conexant iTVC15 MPEG Coder>
> mem 0xf4000000-0xf7ffffff irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci5 May 15 20:17:12
> <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm_iic0: <Conexant iTVC15 / iTVC16 I2C
> controller> on cxm0 May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel: iicbb0: <I2C
> bit-banging driver> on cxm_iic0 May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel:
> iicbus0: <Philips I2C bus> on iicbb0 master-only May 15 20:17:12
> <kern.crit> geek kernel: iicbus0: <unknown card> at addr 0 May 15 20:17:12
> <kern.crit> geek kernel: iicbus0: <unknown card> at addr 0 May 15 20:17:12
> <kern.info> geek kernel: <2>tveeprom: ivtv version May 15 20:17:12
> <kern.info> geek kernel: <2>tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 48139, rev = K2B7,
> serial# = 8694227 May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: <2>tveeprom:
> tuner = Philips FM1216ME MK5 (idx = 117, type = 38) May 15 20:17:12
> <kern.info> geek kernel: <2>tveeprom: tuner fmt = PAL(B/G) PAL(I)
> SECAM(L/L') PAL(D/K) (eeprom = 0x74, v4l2 = 0x00400e17) May 15 20:17:12

Note it says PAL-I too, so your PAL-I should be supported alright I reckon.

> <kern.info> geek kernel: <2>tveeprom: audio processor = MSP4418 (type = 19)
> May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: <2>tveeprom: decoder processor =
> SAA7115 (type = 13) May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel: tuner type: 38
> May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: Eeprom PAL
> May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: tuner: type set to 38 (Philips
> PAL/SECAM multi (FM1216ME MK3)) by cxm May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek
> kernel: tuner: switching to v4l2
> May 15 20:17:12 <kern.crit> geek kernel: before tuner_command!
> May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: tuner: tv freq set to 55.25
> May 15 20:17:12 <kern.info> geek kernel: tuner: tv 0x05 0xe3 0x8e 0x01
> May 15 20:17:13 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: SAA7115 rev 1 video decoder
> May 15 20:17:13 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: MSP4418G-B3 audio decoder
> May 15 20:17:13 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: IR Remote
> May 15 20:17:13 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: [ITHREAD]
> May 15 20:17:15 <kern.debug> geek kernel: cxm0: encoder firmware version
> 0x2060039 May 15 20:17:15 <kern.debug> geek kernel: cxm0: decoder firmware
> version 0x2020023
>
>
> However, I'm not able to pull video off the device:
>
> # cat /dev/cxm0 >test.mpg
> cat: /dev/cxm0: Device not configured
>
> and this gets logged:
>
> May 15 20:17:35 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: video decoder isn't locked
> May 15 20:17:35 <kern.debug> geek kernel: Could not detect FPS
> May 15 20:17:35 <kern.debug> geek kernel: could not config dec
> May 15 20:17:35 <kern.debug> geek kernel: could not start encoder
>
>
> Trying to select the tuner with pvr250-setchannel results in:
>
> # pvr250-setchannel -t
> ioctl( tfd, METEORSINPUT ) failed.: Invalid argument
> May 15 20:24:48 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: video decoder failed to lock
>

It's clearly not a tuner problem but a problem with the video decoder. The 150 
and 500 have another type of video decoder chip than the 250/350, so I can't 
really say much more about it.

HTH,

Dan


From danny at ricin.com  Thu May 15 21:41:08 2008
From: danny at ricin.com (Danny Pansters)
Date: Thu May 15 21:41:15 2008
Subject: Fwd: pvr-xxx on 7.0
In-Reply-To: <200805152315.06436.danny@ricin.com>
References: <F8A4DB3A-80CB-46BB-B4E4-7AC6E6750A3A@doeshosting.com>
	<20080515182746.GA14203@phat.za.net>
	<200805152315.06436.danny@ricin.com>
Message-ID: <200805152341.05210.danny@ricin.com>


> > > >>i observed something strange on 7.0 with this driver. mplayer is now
> > > >>able to sync a/v properly when doing "mplayer /dev/cxm0". i would
> > > >>like
> > > >>to hear from others about this.

mplayer has been updated, that might be the difference. With my ffcxm backend 
for kbtv, I have basically turned ffplay into a library and added some simple 
stuff (to fit into backend api). One thing I noticed is that the only way to 
keep a/v in sync is to call the ffcxm event code as soon as possible rather 
than in line with the video frame rate as I was doing earlier. Considering 
that ffmpeg/ffplay is multithreaded (but with some internally fixed 
parameters, some of which I may have also made a bit more agressive in my 
ffcxm), this is only logical.

So I think it's quite possible that what you're seeing is merely an 
improvement in mplayer, in the way they use ffmpeg or in their thread 
handling or both, not a necessarily a difference between FreeBSD 6 and 7.
I haven't looked at mplayer's source code recently.

I can say that kbtv2+cxm performed somewhat better on my i386 (fbsd6) and 
amd64 (fbsd7) machine than mplayer did, but that's a while ago ~3 months.

That is unless you are using the same (old) mplayer than you were using 
before. In that case I don't know why you're seeing this difference.

HTH,

Dan
From aragon at phat.za.net  Thu May 15 21:49:31 2008
From: aragon at phat.za.net (Aragon Gouveia)
Date: Thu May 15 21:49:35 2008
Subject: Fwd: pvr-xxx on 7.0
In-Reply-To: <200805152315.06436.danny@ricin.com>
References: <F8A4DB3A-80CB-46BB-B4E4-7AC6E6750A3A@doeshosting.com>
	<CFAA6030-A326-4B2A-A33A-2867ECCED0D2@doeshosting.com>
	<20080515182746.GA14203@phat.za.net>
	<200805152315.06436.danny@ricin.com>
Message-ID: <20080515214929.GA29703@phat.za.net>

| By Danny Pansters <danny@ricin.com>
|                                          [ 2008-05-15 23:15 +0200 ]
> It's clearly not a tuner problem but a problem with the video decoder. The 150 
> and 500 have another type of video decoder chip than the 250/350, so I can't 
> really say much more about it.

This is a fairly new card.  Hauppauge model no. is 989.  Maybe they've
updated the PVR-350 line to use the same decoder as the 150/500 cards?

I did test it very briefly from a Xubuntu livecd and it was working to the
point of atleast getting snow in mplayer.  I'll try it again and make a note
of linux's dmesg output - might be helpful.


Thanks,
Aragon

From jeff at doeshosting.com  Fri May 16 05:59:15 2008
From: jeff at doeshosting.com (Jeff)
Date: Fri May 16 05:59:20 2008
Subject: pvr-xxx on 7.0
In-Reply-To: <20080515182746.GA14203@phat.za.net>
References: <F8A4DB3A-80CB-46BB-B4E4-7AC6E6750A3A@doeshosting.com>
	<CFAA6030-A326-4B2A-A33A-2867ECCED0D2@doeshosting.com>
	<20080515182746.GA14203@phat.za.net>
Message-ID: <7F9577D2-B225-418D-B538-4C40224D66F3@doeshosting.com>

On May 15, 2008, at 2:27 PM, Aragon Gouveia wrote:
the port is updated @  http://usleepless.110mb.com/pvrxxx_port.tgz

- should build flawless on 7.0
- now unloads firmware-kld-modules
- "make makesum" should not be necessary
- should be able to switch back from svga/composite to tuner
- added 3:2 pulldown control in pvr250-setchannel to see if it
makes a
difference for anybody

i observed something strange on 7.0 with this driver. mplayer is now
able to sync a/v properly when doing "mplayer /dev/cxm0". i would
like
to hear from others about this.

regards,

usleepless

However, I'm not able to pull video off the device:

# cat /dev/cxm0 >test.mpg
cat: /dev/cxm0: Device not configured

and this gets logged:

May 15 20:17:35 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: video decoder isn't  
locked
May 15 20:17:35 <kern.debug> geek kernel: Could not detect FPS
May 15 20:17:35 <kern.debug> geek kernel: could not config dec
May 15 20:17:35 <kern.debug> geek kernel: could not start encoder


Trying to select the tuner with pvr250-setchannel results in:

# pvr250-setchannel -t
ioctl( tfd, METEORSINPUT ) failed.: Invalid argument
May 15 20:24:48 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: video decoder failed  
to lock


Any more help appreciated.  Must be close now. :)


Have you tried setting the frequency first?  pvr250-setchannel  
<frequency>
Here is an easier method, forwarding from an earlier thread:
mplayer /dev/cxm0 is another way to open the stream.

-krzee

Begin forwarded message:
From: "Kevin Downey"
Date: April 15, 2008 12:33:21 PM GMT-04:00
To: Jeff
Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: For those using PVR-XXX

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Jeff  wrote:
I made a lil script to help me be lazier while changing channels.  I  
do not have a remote anymore, so I must do it at console.  In case  
anyone is going to make something similar for themselves, here is  
mine so you do not need to:

it expects a file in the same dir named cable.txt containing only the  
following:
<channel number>  <frequency>
for example:
2 55.25
3 61.25
4 67.25




... ugly script removed, kevin's below was better, thanks kevin =]

channel(){
     /usr/local/bin/pvr250-setchannel `egrep \^$1\  $HOME/cable.txt|cut
-f 2 -d \ `
}

where cable.txt is a list of channels and freqs. I think I got mine
off wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_cable_television_frequencies

-- 
The Mafia way is that we pursue larger goals under the guise of
personal relationships.
  Fisheye

From amdmi3 at amdmi3.ru  Fri May 16 06:00:44 2008
From: amdmi3 at amdmi3.ru (Dmitry Marakasov)
Date: Fri May 16 06:00:48 2008
Subject: Gnash 0.8.2
Message-ID: <20080516052503.GF4543@hades.panopticon>

Hi!

I've submitted update for gnash port to 0.8.2 (see
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=123708). We still have
some time before it's comitted so I'd ask everione interested in
this port to test it.

For me it seems like 0.8.2 is a regression compared to 0.8.1.  I
don't see that either 0.8.2 or gnash CVS support more flash clips
that 0.8.1 didn't support. Instead many youtube videos won't play
any more and fast OpenGL renderer seems broken (please confirm it).

So, as I don't know many flash-enabled sites, I will be happy to
listen for your opinions on 0.8.1 vs 0.8.2. graphics/gnash-devel
port with recent CVS snapshot will be added without question, so
given that graphics/gnash may be left at 0.8.1 for now if upgrade
to 0.8.2 brings less than it takes.

-- 
Dmitry A. Marakasov    | jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru
amdmi3@amdmi3.ru       | http://www.amdmi3.ru
From jeff at doeshosting.com  Fri May 16 06:08:35 2008
From: jeff at doeshosting.com (Jeff)
Date: Fri May 16 06:08:39 2008
Subject: pvr-xxx on 7.0
In-Reply-To: <7F9577D2-B225-418D-B538-4C40224D66F3@doeshosting.com>
References: <F8A4DB3A-80CB-46BB-B4E4-7AC6E6750A3A@doeshosting.com>
	<CFAA6030-A326-4B2A-A33A-2867ECCED0D2@doeshosting.com>
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Sorry for the first message, here is the message with quoting fixed

On May 15, 2008, at 2:27 PM, Aragon Gouveia wrote:
>>>> the port is updated @  http://usleepless.110mb.com/pvrxxx_port.tgz
>>>>
>>>> - should build flawless on 7.0
>>>> - now unloads firmware-kld-modules
>>>> - "make makesum" should not be necessary
>>>> - should be able to switch back from svga/composite to tuner
>>>> - added 3:2 pulldown control in pvr250-setchannel to see if it
>>>> makes a
>>>> difference for anybody
>>>>
>>>> i observed something strange on 7.0 with this driver. mplayer is  
>>>> now
>>>> able to sync a/v properly when doing "mplayer /dev/cxm0". i would
>>>> like
>>>> to hear from others about this.
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>> usleepless

> However, I'm not able to pull video off the device:
>
> # cat /dev/cxm0 >test.mpg
> cat: /dev/cxm0: Device not configured
>
> and this gets logged:
>
> May 15 20:17:35 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: video decoder isn't  
> locked
> May 15 20:17:35 <kern.debug> geek kernel: Could not detect FPS
> May 15 20:17:35 <kern.debug> geek kernel: could not config dec
> May 15 20:17:35 <kern.debug> geek kernel: could not start encoder
>
>
> Trying to select the tuner with pvr250-setchannel results in:
>
> # pvr250-setchannel -t
> ioctl( tfd, METEORSINPUT ) failed.: Invalid argument
> May 15 20:24:48 <kern.crit> geek kernel: cxm0: video decoder failed  
> to lock
>
>
> Any more help appreciated.  Must be close now. :)
>


Have you tried setting the frequency first?  pvr250-setchannel  
<frequency>
Here is an easier method, forwarding from an earlier thread:
mplayer /dev/cxm0 is another way to open the stream.

-krzee

Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Kevin Downey"
> Date: April 15, 2008 12:33:21 PM GMT-04:00
> To: Jeff
> Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: For those using PVR-XXX
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Jeff  wrote:
>> I made a lil script to help me be lazier while changing channels.   
>> I do not have a remote anymore, so I must do it at console.  In  
>> case anyone is going to make something similar for themselves,  
>> here is mine so you do not need to:
>>
>> it expects a file in the same dir named cable.txt containing only  
>> the following:
>> <channel number>  <frequency>
>> for example:
>> 2 55.25
>> 3 61.25
>> 4 67.25
>>
>>
>>
>>
... ugly script removed, kevin's below was better, thanks kevin =]

> channel(){
>     /usr/local/bin/pvr250-setchannel `egrep \^$1\  $HOME/cable.txt|cut
> -f 2 -d \ `
> }
>
> where cable.txt is a list of channels and freqs. I think I got mine
> off wikipedia.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ 
> North_American_cable_television_frequencies
>
> -- 
> The Mafia way is that we pursue larger goals under the guise of
> personal relationships.
>  Fisheye
>

From unixmania at gmail.com  Fri May 16 12:39:09 2008
From: unixmania at gmail.com (Carlos A. M. dos Santos)
Date: Fri May 16 12:39:15 2008
Subject: Gnash 0.8.2
In-Reply-To: <20080516052503.GF4543@hades.panopticon>
References: <20080516052503.GF4543@hades.panopticon>
Message-ID: <e71790db0805160511w1f5a2752mc744dbb6ce2c7fe2@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:25 AM, Dmitry Marakasov <amdmi3@amdmi3.ru> wrote:
> I've submitted update for gnash port to 0.8.2 (see
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=123708). We still have
> some time before it's comitted so I'd ask everione interested in
> this port to test it.
>
> For me it seems like 0.8.2 is a regression compared to 0.8.1.  I
> don't see that either 0.8.2 or gnash CVS support more flash clips
> that 0.8.1 didn't support. Instead many youtube videos won't play
> any more and fast OpenGL renderer seems broken (please confirm it).

Yes, OpenGL renderer seems to be broken on 0.8.2. I attempted to use
it but got much better results using AGG. I believe that it should be
classified as experimental, like the Cairo renderer is.

> So, as I don't know many flash-enabled sites, I will be happy to
> listen for your opinions on 0.8.1 vs 0.8.2. graphics/gnash-devel
> port with recent CVS snapshot will be added without question, so
> given that graphics/gnash may be left at 0.8.1 for now if upgrade
> to 0.8.2 brings less than it takes.

Both 0.8.2 and devel versions successfully render videos of some sites
where 0.8.1 failed when I tested. This one, for example:

     http://charges.uol.com.br/

I noticed that video rendering lags behind audio with 0.8.2 and devel.
It seems that video rendering with AGG is not fast enough, so I will
try to improve the performance by trimming some compilation
parameters.

-- 
Carlos A. M. dos Santos
From aragon at phat.za.net  Fri May 16 16:30:08 2008
From: aragon at phat.za.net (Aragon Gouveia)
Date: Fri May 16 16:30:11 2008
Subject: Getting a WinTV PVR-350 working
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| By Jeff <jeff@doeshosting.com>
|                                          [ 2008-05-16 08:08 +0200 ]
> Have you tried setting the frequency first?  pvr250-setchannel  
> <frequency>
> Here is an easier method, forwarding from an earlier thread:
> mplayer /dev/cxm0 is another way to open the stream.

Unfortunately that doesn't help:

$ pvr250-setchannel 225.0  
$ cat /dev/cxm0 >test.mpg
cat: /dev/cxm0: Device not configured
May 16 18:26:14 <kern.crit> igor kernel: before tuner_command!
May 16 18:26:14 <kern.info> igor kernel: tuner: tv freq set to 225.00
May 16 18:26:14 <kern.info> igor kernel: tuner: tv 0x10 0x7f 0x8e 0x02
May 16 18:26:26 <kern.crit> igor kernel: cxm0: video decoder isn't locked
May 16 18:26:26 <kern.debug> igor kernel: Could not detect FPS
May 16 18:26:26 <kern.debug> igor kernel: could not config dec
May 16 18:26:26 <kern.debug> igor kernel: could not start encoder

$ mplayer /dev/cxm0
MPlayer 1.0rc2-4.2.1 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8500  @ 3.16GHz (Family: 6, Model: 23,
Stepping: 6)
CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Compiled with runtime CPU detection.

Playing /dev/cxm0.
Seek failed


Exiting... (End of file)



Thanks,
Aragon
From aragon at phat.za.net  Fri May 16 18:23:35 2008
From: aragon at phat.za.net (Aragon Gouveia)
Date: Fri May 16 18:23:38 2008
Subject: Getting a WinTV PVR-350 working
In-Reply-To: <20080516163006.GA9143@phat.za.net>
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Message-ID: <20080516182333.GA17075@phat.za.net>

Hi,

Just an update.  I booted Xubuntu 8.04 with my card tonight.  It works great
under Linux (hate to say it!!).  Here is the dmesg output:

[   87.465101] ivtv:  Start initialization, version 1.1.0
[   87.465144] ivtv0: Initializing card #0
[   87.465145] ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23415 based)
[   87.467450] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:07:00.0[A] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
[   87.467457] ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
[   87.777499] tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 48139, rev K2B7, serial# 8694227
[   87.777501] tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is Philips FM1216ME MK5 (idx 117, type 38)
[   87.777503] tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards PAL(B/G) PAL(I) SECAM(L/L') PAL(D/D1/K) (eeprom 0x74)
[   87.777504] tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is MSP4418 (idx 25)
[   87.777506] tveeprom 0-0050: decoder processor is SAA7115 (idx 19)
[   87.777507] tveeprom 0-0050: has radio, has IR receiver, has no IR transmitter
[   87.777508] ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350
[   87.887025] tuner 0-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
[   87.887039] tda9887 0-0043: tda988[5/6/7] found @ 0x43 (tuner)
[   87.887040] tuner 0-0043: type set to tda9887
[   87.890255] tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
[   87.985755] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1b.0[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22
[   87.986897] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1b.0 to 64
[   88.019395] hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC883, trying auto-probe from BIOS...
[   88.104752] saa7115 0-0021: saa7115 found (1f7115d0e100000) @ 0x42 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
[   88.272840] saa7127 0-0044: saa7129 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
[   88.290157] msp3400 0-0040: MSP4418G-B3 found @ 0x80 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
[   88.290158] msp3400 0-0040: MSP4418G-B3 supports nicam and radio, mode is autodetect and autoselect
[   88.290587] tuner-simple 0-0061: type set to 38 (Philips PAL/SECAM multi (FM1216ME MK3))
[   88.290589] tuner 0-0061: type set to Philips PAL/SECAM m
[   88.305405] ivtv0: Registered device video0 for encoder MPG (4096 kB)
[   88.305420] ivtv0: Registered device video32 for encoder YUV (2048 kB)
[   88.305431] ivtv0: Registered device vbi0 for encoder VBI (1024 kB)
[   88.305441] ivtv0: Registered device video24 for encoder PCM (320 kB)
[   88.305450] ivtv0: Registered device radio0 for encoder radio
[   88.305461] ivtv0: Registered device video16 for decoder MPG (1024 kB)
[   88.305469] ivtv0: Registered device vbi8 for decoder VBI (64 kB)
[   88.305481] ivtv0: Registered device vbi16 for decoder VOUT
[   88.305490] ivtv0: Registered device video48 for decoder YUV (1024 kB)
[   88.305491] ivtv0: Initialized card #0: Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350
[   88.305505] ivtv:  End initialization
[  101.072363] ivtv0: Loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (376836 bytes)
[  101.085811] ivtv0: Loaded v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
[  101.284407] ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02060039
[  101.284532] ivtv0: Decoder revision: 0x02020023
[  101.380910] ivtv0: Loaded v4l-cx2341x-init.mpg firmware (155648 bytes)


Compared to my dmesg:

May 16 20:11:03 <kern.crit> igor kernel: cxm0: <Conexant iTVC15 MPEG Coder> mem 0xe0000000-0xe3ffffff irq 21 at device 0.0 on pci7
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.crit> igor kernel: cxm_iic0: <Conexant iTVC15 / iTVC16 I2C controller> on cxm0
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.crit> igor kernel: iicbb0: <I2C bit-banging driver> on cxm_iic0
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.crit> igor kernel: iicbus0: <Philips I2C bus> on iicbb0 master-only
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.crit> igor kernel: iicbus0: <unknown card> at addr 0
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.crit> igor kernel: iicbus0: <unknown card> at addr 0
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.info> igor kernel: <2>tveeprom: ivtv version
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.info> igor kernel: <2>tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 48139, rev = K2B7, serial# = 8694227
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.info> igor kernel: <2>tveeprom: tuner = Philips FM1216ME MK5 (idx = 117, type = 38)
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.info> igor kernel: <2>tveeprom: tuner fmt = PAL(B/G) PAL(I) SECAM(L/L') PAL(D/K) (eeprom = 0x74, v4l2 = 0x00400e17)
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.info> igor kernel: <2>tveeprom: audio processor = MSP4418 (type = 19)
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.info> igor kernel: <2>tveeprom: decoder processor = SAA7115 (type = 13)
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.crit> igor kernel: tuner type: 38
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.crit> igor kernel: cxm0: Eeprom PAL
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.info> igor kernel: tuner: type set to 38 (Philips PAL/SECAM multi (FM1216ME MK3)) by cxm
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.info> igor kernel: tuner: switching to v4l2
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.crit> igor kernel: before tuner_command!
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.info> igor kernel: tuner: tv freq set to 55.25
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.info> igor kernel: tuner: tv 0x05 0xe3 0x8e 0x01
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.crit> igor kernel: cxm0: SAA7115 rev 1 video decoder
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.crit> igor kernel: cxm0: MSP4418G-B3 audio decoder
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.crit> igor kernel: cxm0: IR Remote
May 16 20:11:03 <kern.crit> igor kernel: cxm0: [ITHREAD]
May 16 20:11:04 <kern.debug> igor kernel: cxm0: encoder firmware version 0x2060039
May 16 20:11:04 <kern.debug> igor kernel: cxm0: decoder firmware version 0x2020023


I loaded windows up too to get the output of Hauppauge's Prodinfo utility:

Model 48139 Rev. K2B7
Serial #8694227
Tuner Model/Formats: Philips FM1216ME_MK5  //  (BG/I/DK/LL')  (FM)
Tuner Audio: Stereo (MSP4418)
Video Formats: NTSC ( M ) PAL ( B G H I D K M N NCOMBO ) SECAM ( L L' )
Audio Outputs: None
External Inputs: 3
S-Video Inputs: 2
Teletext:  
Radio: FM
Decoder: SAA7115
IR: Yes

EEprom Contents: 
84 09 00 04 20 77 00 40 d3 a9 84 00 
73 05 99 00 
84 08 00 06 0b bc 00 00 97 28 ad 
72 07 70 
73 09 13 5f 
73 0a 74 75 
73 0b 59 8c 
72 0e 01 
72 0f 01 
72 10 01 
72 11 00 
79 a0 


The only oddity I can see is the SA7129 decoder from the linux dmesg. 
Any ideas?


Thanks,
Aragon
From freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com  Fri May 16 19:01:20 2008
From: freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com (Dieter)
Date: Fri May 16 19:01:23 2008
Subject: Getting a WinTV PVR-350 working 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 2008 20:23:33 +0200."
	<20080516182333.GA17075@phat.za.net> 
Message-ID: <200805161859.SAA25325@sopwith.solgatos.com>

> May 16 20:11:03 <kern.info> igor kernel: tuner: switching to v4l2

Is this right?  v4l2 with FreeBSD ?
From aragon at phat.za.net  Fri May 16 19:32:02 2008
From: aragon at phat.za.net (Aragon Gouveia)
Date: Fri May 16 19:32:05 2008
Subject: Getting a WinTV PVR-350 working
In-Reply-To: <20080516182333.GA17075@phat.za.net>
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SUCCESS!!!!!!!!

Pardon my joy. :)  I finally got it working!

This was the problem:

> [   87.467457] ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
> [   87.986897] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1b.0 to 64

My BIOS default PCI Latency timer setting is 32.  I saw this log entry and
thought to try adjust it to 64 in the BIOS.  I confirmed with linux again
and dmesg showed that ivtv did not adjust it after I made the BIOS change
and it still worked in Linux.

Loaded up BSD and presto - cxm works now!  And 'mplayer /dev/cxm0' is
working here too.  Awesome! :)

So I guess someone should make a note in the port that the PCI Latency timer
BIOS setting must be 64?  Maybe I'm the first of many to hit this.  I guess
ideally the driver should correct it as with linux, but if not hopefully
this post helps others.  I am running an Intel DG33BU motherboard BTW.

Got some more experimenting to do.  Need to figure out all my channel
frequencies now.  Should be fun. :)

Thanks all for your time and help.  Thanks usleep for keeping this driver
updated!


Thanks,
Aragon
From mail4lists at gmail.com  Fri May 16 20:01:06 2008
From: mail4lists at gmail.com (Anton Stamenov)
Date: Fri May 16 20:01:10 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <20080513123930.GA10693@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805102123.22952.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080510193445.GA6432@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805110923.40726.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080511095201.GA5278@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<20080513003603.GA11033@in-addr.com>
	<20080513123930.GA10693@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
Message-ID: <20080516193322.GA5126@gmail.com>

I have the same situation with Intel Q965 video adapter.

I also had problems with it under latest SuSE. 

So I think it is Xorg specific problem. Although after X already
started I can change the resolution to whatever I want, using kde
tools for exmaple or xrandr. 

The only problem for now is KDM. 


On Tue, 13 May 2008, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote:
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 08:36:03PM -0400, Gary Palmer wrote:
> 
> > What version of xorg are you using on Linux and on FreeBSD?
> > 
> > X -version
> > 
> > should tell you
> 
> Linux:
> 
> X Window System Version 7.1.1
> Release Date: 12 May 2006
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
> Build Operating System: UNKNOWN 
> Current Operating System: Linux sarge 2.6.25.2 #1 Fri May 9 14:02:28 CEST
> 2008 i686
> Build Date: 24 January 2008
>         Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
>         to make sure that you have the latest version.
> Module Loader present
> 
> ====================
> FreeBSD (default X-server shipped with "official" 7.0):
> 
> X.Org X Server 1.4.0
> Release Date: 5 September 2007
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE i386
> Current Operating System: FreeBSD sarge.my.own.domain.no-net 7.0-RELEASE
> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #2: Sat Apr 19 20:53:27 CEST 2008
> root@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SARGE i386
> Build Date: 13 February 2008  05:50:12PM
> 
>         Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
>         to make sure that you have the latest version.
> Module Loader present
> 
> 
> > I might have missed it in an earlier e-mail, but what resolution does
> > FreeBSD come up in?  
> > 
> > xdpyinfo
> 
> Highest available: 1280x1024
> 
> Under Linux I'm using 800x600 (on the "virtual screen" 1280x1024)

-- 
___________
anton
From zb at ispid.com.pl  Fri May 16 20:25:35 2008
From: zb at ispid.com.pl (Zbigniew Baniewski)
Date: Fri May 16 20:25:40 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <20080516193322.GA5126@gmail.com>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805102123.22952.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080510193445.GA6432@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805110923.40726.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080511095201.GA5278@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<20080513003603.GA11033@in-addr.com>
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	<20080516193322.GA5126@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080516202538.GA17679@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:36:22PM +0300, Anton Stamenov wrote:

> I have the same situation with Intel Q965 video adapter.
> 
> I also had problems with it under latest SuSE. 
> 
> So I think it is Xorg specific problem. [..]

But pay attention, that _older_ version of radeon driver works quite OK
under Linux.
-- 
				pozdrawiam / regards

						Zbigniew Baniewski
From mail4lists at gmail.com  Fri May 16 20:57:17 2008
From: mail4lists at gmail.com (Anton Stamenov)
Date: Fri May 16 20:57:21 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <20080516202538.GA17679@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805102123.22952.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080510193445.GA6432@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805110923.40726.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080511095201.GA5278@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<20080513003603.GA11033@in-addr.com>
	<20080513123930.GA10693@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<20080516193322.GA5126@gmail.com>
	<20080516202538.GA17679@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
Message-ID: <20080516205711.GA7529@gmail.com>

_older_ version of radeon means older version of Xorg aswell.

I also don't have any problems with X 6.X series, though I never
tested it on this partucular card. 

I also tried Ubuntu (can't remmeber which version), again, no
problems.

But SuSE and FreeBSD 7.0 have similar problems. This is on one and the
same hardware.

On Fri, 16 May 2008, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote:
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:36:22PM +0300, Anton Stamenov wrote:
> 
> > I have the same situation with Intel Q965 video adapter.
> > 
> > I also had problems with it under latest SuSE. 
> > 
> > So I think it is Xorg specific problem. [..]
> 
> But pay attention, that _older_ version of radeon driver works quite OK
> under Linux.

-- 
___________
anton
From zb at ispid.com.pl  Fri May 16 21:07:51 2008
From: zb at ispid.com.pl (Z.B.)
Date: Fri May 16 21:07:55 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <20080516205711.GA7529@gmail.com>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805102123.22952.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080510193445.GA6432@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805110923.40726.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080511095201.GA5278@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<20080513003603.GA11033@in-addr.com>
	<20080513123930.GA10693@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<20080516193322.GA5126@gmail.com>
	<20080516202538.GA17679@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<20080516205711.GA7529@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080516210755.GA18485@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:57:11PM +0300, Anton Stamenov wrote:

> But SuSE and FreeBSD 7.0 have similar problems. This is on one and the
> same hardware.

So maybe you're right...  :-O
-- 
				pozdrawiam / regards

						Zbigniew Baniewski
From gpalmer at freebsd.org  Fri May 16 23:27:40 2008
From: gpalmer at freebsd.org (Gary Palmer)
Date: Fri May 16 23:27:42 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <20080513123930.GA10693@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805102123.22952.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080510193445.GA6432@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805110923.40726.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080511095201.GA5278@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<20080513003603.GA11033@in-addr.com>
	<20080513123930.GA10693@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
Message-ID: <20080516232738.GA63463@in-addr.com>

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 02:39:30PM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote:
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 08:36:03PM -0400, Gary Palmer wrote:
> 
> > What version of xorg are you using on Linux and on FreeBSD?
> > 
> > X -version
> > 
> > should tell you
> 
> Linux:
> 
> X Window System Version 7.1.1
> Release Date: 12 May 2006
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
> Build Operating System: UNKNOWN 
> Current Operating System: Linux sarge 2.6.25.2 #1 Fri May 9 14:02:28 CEST
> 2008 i686
> Build Date: 24 January 2008
>         Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
>         to make sure that you have the latest version.
> Module Loader present
> 
> ====================
> FreeBSD (default X-server shipped with "official" 7.0):
> 
> X.Org X Server 1.4.0
> Release Date: 5 September 2007
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE i386
> Current Operating System: FreeBSD sarge.my.own.domain.no-net 7.0-RELEASE
> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #2: Sat Apr 19 20:53:27 CEST 2008
> root@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SARGE i386
> Build Date: 13 February 2008  05:50:12PM
> 
>         Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
>         to make sure that you have the latest version.
> Module Loader present
> 
> 
> > I might have missed it in an earlier e-mail, but what resolution does
> > FreeBSD come up in?  
> > 
> > xdpyinfo
> 
> Highest available: 1280x1024
> 
> Under Linux I'm using 800x600 (on the "virtual screen" 1280x1024)

I suspect what you're seeing is that X tries much harder now to
give the best display on a given monitor.  Older X's didn't really
care much and did whatever the config file said.  I don't have
any old X installs lying around to prove that one way or the
other unfortunately.

Have you tried using xrandr ( /usr/ports/x11/xrandr ) to see if you
can reduce the resultion?  It'll probably even work from 
.xinitrc or .xsession

/usr/local/bin/xrandr -mode 800x600 -fb 1280x1024

I think should do what you want.

(note that this would be much better over on freebsd-x11 - this is an
 X problem, not a multimedia problem - Reply-to set appropriately)

Gary
From zb at ispid.com.pl  Sat May 17 00:13:51 2008
From: zb at ispid.com.pl (Zbigniew Baniewski)
Date: Sat May 17 00:13:55 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <20080516232738.GA63463@in-addr.com>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805102123.22952.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080510193445.GA6432@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<200805110923.40726.shoesoft@gmx.net>
	<20080511095201.GA5278@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<20080513003603.GA11033@in-addr.com>
	<20080513123930.GA10693@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<20080516232738.GA63463@in-addr.com>
Message-ID: <20080517001357.GA21271@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 07:27:38PM -0400, Gary Palmer wrote:

> I suspect what you're seeing is that X tries much harder now to
> give the best display on a given monitor.

But isn't the user the one to say, what is best for him? Anyway, it doesn't
allow to use <Alt>-<Control>-<+ -> as resolution switch, so most likely it's
a bug. It's not just a problem with initial resolution, but - most of all -
that it's only resolution available.

> Older X's didn't really care much and did whatever the config file said. 

It's the proper behaviour.

> I don't have any old X installs lying around to prove that one way or the
> other unfortunately.
> Have you tried using xrandr ( /usr/ports/x11/xrandr ) to see if you
> can reduce the resultion?  It'll probably even work from 
> .xinitrc or .xsession

xrandr is changing the resolution, but it's workaround, not a solution.
There's a bug to be fixed. I don't know, whether it's FreeBSD-related,
or xorg-related - but surely there's something broken.

> /usr/local/bin/xrandr -mode 800x600 -fb 1280x1024
> 
> I think should do what you want.
> 
> (note that this would be much better over on freebsd-x11 - this is an
>  X problem, not a multimedia problem - Reply-to set appropriately)

I'm afraid, I have to subscribe it first probably.
-- 
				pozdrawiam / regards

						Zbigniew Baniewski
From unixmania at gmail.com  Sat May 17 03:05:02 2008
From: unixmania at gmail.com (Carlos A. M. dos Santos)
Date: Sat May 17 03:05:05 2008
Subject: Gnash 0.8.2
In-Reply-To: <e71790db0805160511w1f5a2752mc744dbb6ce2c7fe2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080516052503.GF4543@hades.panopticon>
	<e71790db0805160511w1f5a2752mc744dbb6ce2c7fe2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e71790db0805162005m34572505x1df42108851c5384@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Carlos A. M. dos Santos
<unixmania@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:25 AM, Dmitry Marakasov <amdmi3@amdmi3.ru> wrote:
>> I've submitted update for gnash port to 0.8.2 (see
>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=123708). We still have
>> some time before it's comitted so I'd ask everione interested in
>> this port to test it.
[...]
> I noticed that video rendering lags behind audio with 0.8.2 and devel.
> It seems that video rendering with AGG is not fast enough, so I will
> try to improve the performance by trimming some compilation
> parameters.

The lag happens when I use the browser plugin, not the standalone
player. For example, running

     /usr/local/bin/gtk-gnash /tmp/video.swf

works flawlessly, but opening firefox and browsing to

     file:///tmp/video.swf

I get unsynchronized video and audio.

-- 
Carlos A. M. dos Santos
From kutizs at t-online.hu  Sat May 17 22:17:50 2008
From: kutizs at t-online.hu (Zsolt =?ISO-8859-2?Q?K=FAti?=)
Date: Sat May 17 22:17:55 2008
Subject: mic does not work
Message-ID: <20080518001744.6252a8fa@brain>

Hello,

I am unhappily joining the group having "HDA's mic not working"
recurring issue.
Searched archives for cure, found some (gpio hint, setting recording
source other than the trivial mic), but to no avail.

What could I do to bring vitality in to my mic?
Many thanks!

Zsolt


- 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #5

- $ cat /dev/sndstat
pcm0: <ATI SB600 High Definition Audio Controller> at
memory 0xfe020000 irq 16 kld snd_hda [20071129_0050] [MPSAFE]
(1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default)

- $ mixer
Mixer vol      is currently set to  63:63
Mixer pcm      is currently set to  17:17
Mixer line     is currently set to  75:75
Mixer mic      is currently set to  80:80
Mixer rec      is currently set to  80:80
Recording source: mic

pci0: driver added
found->	vendor=0x1002, dev=0x4385, revid=0x14
	domain=0, bus=0, slot=20, func=0
	class=0c-05-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1
	cmdreg=0xffff, statreg=0xffff, cachelnsz=0 (dwords)
	lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns)
pci0:0:20:0: reprobing on driver added
found->	vendor=0x1002, dev=0x4383, revid=0x00
	domain=0, bus=0, slot=20, func=2
	class=04-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
	cmdreg=0x0006, statreg=0x0410, cachelnsz=8 (dwords)
	lattimer=0x40 (1920 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns)
	intpin=a, irq=16
	powerspec 2  supports D0 D3  current D0
pci0:0:20:2: reprobing on driver added
pcm0: <ATI SB600 High Definition Audio Controller> mem
0xfe020000-0xfe023fff irq 16 at device 20.2 on pci0 pcm0: DMA
Coherency: Uncacheable / vendor=0x1002 pcm0: [MPSAFE]
pcm0: [ITHREAD]
pcm0: hdac_dma_alloc: size=1024 -> roundsz=1024
pcm0: hdac_dma_alloc: size=2048 -> roundsz=2048
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: HDA Config: on=0x00000000 off=0x00000000
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: Starting CORB Engine...
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: Starting RIRB Engine...
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: Enabling controller interrupt...
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: Scanning HDA codecs [start index=0] ...
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: Probing codec: 0
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: 	startnode=1 endnode=2
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: 	Found AFG nid=1 [startnode=1 endnode=2]
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: Parsing AFG nid=1 cad=0
pcm0:        Vendor: 0x000010ec
pcm0:        Device: 0x00000883
pcm0:      Revision: 0x00000000
pcm0:      Stepping: 0x00000002
pcm0: PCI Subvendor: 0x82491043
pcm0:         Nodes: start=2 endnode=39 total=37
pcm0:     CORB size: 256
pcm0:     RIRB size: 256
pcm0:       Streams: ISS=4 OSS=4 BSS=0
pcm0:          GPIO: 0x40000002
pcm0:                NumGPIO=2 NumGPO=0 NumGPI=0 GPIWake=0 GPIUnsol=1
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=8 entries=1 found=1
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=9 entries=1 found=1
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=10 entries=1 found=1
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=11 entries=10
found=10 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=12
entries=2 found=2 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=13
entries=2 found=2 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=14
entries=2 found=2 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=15
entries=2 found=2 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=20
entries=5 found=5 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=21
entries=5 found=5 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=22
entries=5 found=5 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=23
entries=5 found=5 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=24
entries=5 found=5 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=25
entries=5 found=5 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=26
entries=5 found=5 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=27
entries=5 found=5 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=30
entries=1 found=1 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=34
entries=11 found=11 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: hdac_widget_connection_parse:
nid=35 entries=11 found=11 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG:
hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=38 entries=2 found=2 pcm0: HDA_DEBUG:
Parsing Ctls... pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: Parsing vendor patch...
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: Building AFG tree...
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: HWiP: HDA Widget Parser - Revision 1
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: HWiP: Found 10 DAC path using HDA_PARSE_MIXER strategy.
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: AFG commit...
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: Ctls commit...
pcm0: [ 6] Ctl nid=11 childnid=27 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [ 7] Ctl nid=11 childnid=28 DISABLED
pcm0: [ 8] Ctl nid=11 childnid=29 DISABLED
pcm0: [ 9] Ctl nid=11 childnid=20 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [10] Ctl nid=11 childnid=21 DISABLED
pcm0: [11] Ctl nid=11 childnid=22 DISABLED
pcm0: [12] Ctl nid=11 childnid=23 DISABLED
pcm0: [13] Ctl nid=12 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [15] Ctl nid=12 childnid=11 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [16] Ctl nid=13 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [18] Ctl nid=13 childnid=11 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [19] Ctl nid=14 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [21] Ctl nid=14 childnid=11 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [22] Ctl nid=15 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [24] Ctl nid=15 childnid=11 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [25] Ctl nid=20 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [26] Ctl nid=20 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [27] Ctl nid=21 DISABLED
pcm0: [28] Ctl nid=21 DISABLED
pcm0: [29] Ctl nid=22 DISABLED
pcm0: [30] Ctl nid=22 DISABLED
pcm0: [31] Ctl nid=23 DISABLED
pcm0: [32] Ctl nid=23 DISABLED
pcm0: [33] Ctl nid=24 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [34] Ctl nid=24 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [35] Ctl nid=25 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [36] Ctl nid=25 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [37] Ctl nid=26 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [38] Ctl nid=26 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [39] Ctl nid=27 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [40] Ctl nid=27 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [41] Ctl nid=34 childnid=24 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [42] Ctl nid=34 childnid=25 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [43] Ctl nid=34 childnid=26 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [44] Ctl nid=34 childnid=27 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [45] Ctl nid=34 childnid=28 DISABLED
pcm0: [46] Ctl nid=34 childnid=29 DISABLED
pcm0: [47] Ctl nid=34 childnid=20 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [48] Ctl nid=34 childnid=21 DISABLED
pcm0: [49] Ctl nid=34 childnid=22 DISABLED
pcm0: [50] Ctl nid=34 childnid=23 DISABLED
pcm0: [51] Ctl nid=34 childnid=11 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [52] Ctl nid=35 childnid=24 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [53] Ctl nid=35 childnid=25 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [54] Ctl nid=35 childnid=26 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [55] Ctl nid=35 childnid=27 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [56] Ctl nid=35 childnid=28 DISABLED
pcm0: [57] Ctl nid=35 childnid=29 DISABLED
pcm0: [58] Ctl nid=35 childnid=20 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [59] Ctl nid=35 childnid=21 DISABLED
pcm0: [60] Ctl nid=35 childnid=22 DISABLED
pcm0: [61] Ctl nid=35 childnid=23 DISABLED
pcm0: [62] Ctl nid=35 childnid=11 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [63] Ctl nid=38 Bind to NONE
pcm0: [65] Ctl nid=38 childnid=11 Bind to NONE
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: PCMDIR_PLAY setup...
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: PCMDIR_REC setup...
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: OSS mixer initialization...
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: Enabling Soft PCM volume
pcm0: Mixer "vol": child=0x00000010
pcm0: Mixer "pcm": parent="vol"
pcm0: Mixer "line":
pcm0: Mixer "mic":
pcm0: Mixer "rec":
pcm0: Soft PCM mixer ENABLED
pcm0: HDA_DEBUG: Registering PCM channels...
pcm0: clone manager: deadline=750ms flags=0x8000001e
pcm0: hdac_dma_alloc: size=4096 -> roundsz=4096
pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 1c08c000, 4000; 0xe54f3000 -> 1c08c000
pcm0: hdac_dma_alloc: size=4096 -> roundsz=4096
pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 1c0d4000, 4000; 0xe551a000 -> 1c0d4000
pcm0: <HDA Codec: Realtek ALC883>
pcm0: <HDA Codec ID: 0x10ec0883>
pcm0: <HDA Driver Revision: 20071129_0050>
pcm0: 
pcm0: HDA config/quirks: forcestereo ivref50 ivref80 ivref100 ivref
pcm0: 
pcm0: +-------------------+
pcm0: | DUMPING HDA NODES |
pcm0: +-------------------+
pcm0: 
pcm0: Default Parameter
pcm0: -----------------
pcm0:      Stream cap: 0x00000001
pcm0:          Format: PCM
pcm0:         PCM cap: 0x000e0560
pcm0:        PCM size: 16 20 24
pcm0:        PCM rate: 44 48 96 192
pcm0:          IN amp: 0x00000000
pcm0:         OUT amp: 0x00000000
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 2 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio output
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00000011
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000001
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000011
pcm0:      Stream cap: 0x00000001
pcm0:          Format: PCM
pcm0:         PCM cap: 0x000e0560
pcm0:        PCM size: 16 20 24
pcm0:        PCM rate: 44 48 96 192
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 3 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio output
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00000011
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000001
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000011
pcm0:      Stream cap: 0x00000001
pcm0:          Format: PCM
pcm0:         PCM cap: 0x000e0560
pcm0:        PCM size: 16 20 24
pcm0:        PCM rate: 44 48 96 192
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 4 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio output
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00000011
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000001
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000011
pcm0:      Stream cap: 0x00000001
pcm0:          Format: PCM
pcm0:         PCM cap: 0x000e0560
pcm0:        PCM size: 16 20 24
pcm0:        PCM rate: 44 48 96 192
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 5 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio output
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00000011
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000001
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000011
pcm0:      Stream cap: 0x00000001
pcm0:          Format: PCM
pcm0:         PCM cap: 0x000e0560
pcm0:        PCM size: 16 20 24
pcm0:        PCM rate: 44 48 96 192
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 6 [DIGITAL] [DISABLED]
pcm0:            name: audio output
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00000211
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:      Stream cap: 0x00000001
pcm0:          Format: PCM
pcm0:         PCM cap: 0x001e0560
pcm0:        PCM size: 16 20 24 32
pcm0:        PCM rate: 44 48 96 192
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 7 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: vendor widget
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00f00000
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 8 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio input
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0010011b
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000002
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000800
pcm0:      Stream cap: 0x00000001
pcm0:          Format: PCM
pcm0:         PCM cap: 0x00060160
pcm0:        PCM size: 16 20
pcm0:        PCM rate: 44 48 96
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x80051f08
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=31 size=5 offset=8
pcm0:     connections: 1
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=35 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 9 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio input
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0010011b
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000002
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000800
pcm0:      Stream cap: 0x00000001
pcm0:          Format: PCM
pcm0:         PCM cap: 0x00060160
pcm0:        PCM size: 16 20
pcm0:        PCM rate: 44 48 96
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x80051f08
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=31 size=5 offset=8
pcm0:     connections: 1
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=34 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 10 [DIGITAL] [DISABLED]
pcm0:            name: audio input
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00100391
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:      Stream cap: 0x00000001
pcm0:          Format: PCM
pcm0:         PCM cap: 0x001e0560
pcm0:        PCM size: 16 20 24 32
pcm0:        PCM rate: 44 48 96 192
pcm0:     connections: 1
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=31 [pin: speaker (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 11 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio mixer
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0020010b
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000002
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x000000c1
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x80051f17
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=31 size=5 offset=23
pcm0:     connections: 10
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=24 [pin: Mic in (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=25 [pin: Mic in (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=26 [pin: line in (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=27 [pin: headphones out (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=28 [pin: CD (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=29 [pin: line out (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=20 [pin: line out (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=21 [pin: speaker (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=22 [pin: speaker (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=23 [pin: speaker (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 12 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio mixer
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0020010f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000001
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x000000d1
pcm0:      Output amp: 0x00051f1f
pcm0:                  mute=0 step=31 size=5 offset=31
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 2
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=2 [audio output]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=11 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 13 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio mixer
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0020010f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000001
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000011
pcm0:      Output amp: 0x00051f1f
pcm0:                  mute=0 step=31 size=5 offset=31
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 2
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=3 [audio output]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=11 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 14 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio mixer
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0020010f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000001
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000011
pcm0:      Output amp: 0x00051f1f
pcm0:                  mute=0 step=31 size=5 offset=31
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 2
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=4 [audio output]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=11 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 15 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio mixer
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0020010f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000001
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000011
pcm0:      Output amp: 0x00051f1f
pcm0:                  mute=0 step=31 size=5 offset=31
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 2
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=5 [audio output]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=11 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 16 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: vendor widget
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00f00000
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 17 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: vendor widget
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00f00000
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 18 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: vendor widget
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00f00000
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 19 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: vendor widget
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00f00000
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 20 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: pin: line out (jack)
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0040018f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000001
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:         Pin cap: 0x0000003e
pcm0:                  TRQD HP OUT IN : UNSOL
pcm0:      Pin config: 0x01014410
pcm0:     Pin control: 0x00000040 OUT
pcm0:      Output amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x00270300
pcm0:                  mute=0 step=3 size=39 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 5
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=12 [audio mixer] (selected)
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=13 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=14 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=15 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=38 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 21 [ANALOG] [DISABLED]
pcm0:            name: pin: speaker (none)
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0040018f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:         Pin cap: 0x0000003e
pcm0:                  TRQD HP OUT IN : UNSOL
pcm0:      Pin config: 0x411111f0
pcm0:     Pin control: 0x000000e0 HP IN OUT
pcm0:      Output amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x00270300
pcm0:                  mute=0 step=3 size=39 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 5
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=12 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=13 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=14 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=15 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=38 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 22 [ANALOG] [DISABLED]
pcm0:            name: pin: speaker (none)
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0040018f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:         Pin cap: 0x0000003e
pcm0:                  TRQD HP OUT IN : UNSOL
pcm0:      Pin config: 0x411111f0
pcm0:     Pin control: 0x000000e0 HP IN OUT
pcm0:      Output amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x00270300
pcm0:                  mute=0 step=3 size=39 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 5
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=12 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=13 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=14 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=15 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=38 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 23 [ANALOG] [DISABLED]
pcm0:            name: pin: speaker (none)
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0040018f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:         Pin cap: 0x0000003e
pcm0:                  TRQD HP OUT IN : UNSOL
pcm0:      Pin config: 0x411111f0
pcm0:     Pin control: 0x000000e0 HP IN OUT
pcm0:      Output amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x00270300
pcm0:                  mute=0 step=3 size=39 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 5
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=12 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=13 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=14 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=15 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=38 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 24 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: pin: Mic in (jack)
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0040018f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000002
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000081
pcm0:         Pin cap: 0x0000053e
pcm0:                  TRQD HP OUT IN VREF[ GROUND HIZ ] : UNSOL
pcm0:      Pin config: 0x01a19c40
pcm0:     Pin control: 0x00000020 IN
pcm0:      Output amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x00270300
pcm0:                  mute=0 step=3 size=39 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 5
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=12 [audio mixer] (selected)
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=13 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=14 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=15 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=38 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 25 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: pin: Mic in (jack)
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0040018f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000002
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000081
pcm0:         Pin cap: 0x0000053e
pcm0:                  TRQD HP OUT IN VREF[ GROUND HIZ ] : UNSOL
pcm0:      Pin config: 0x02a19c50
pcm0:     Pin control: 0x00000020 IN
pcm0:      Output amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x00270300
pcm0:                  mute=0 step=3 size=39 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 5
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=12 [audio mixer] (selected)
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=13 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=14 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=15 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=38 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 26 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: pin: line in (jack)
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0040018f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000002
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000041
pcm0:         Pin cap: 0x0000173e
pcm0:                  TRQD HP OUT IN VREF[ 50 80 GROUND HIZ ] : UNSOL
pcm0:      Pin config: 0x0181344f
pcm0:     Pin control: 0x00000024 IN
pcm0:      Output amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x00270300
pcm0:                  mute=0 step=3 size=39 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 5
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=12 [audio mixer] (selected)
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=13 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=14 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=15 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=38 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 27 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: pin: headphones out (jack)
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0040018f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000001
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:         Pin cap: 0x0000173e
pcm0:                  TRQD HP OUT IN VREF[ 50 80 GROUND HIZ ] : UNSOL
pcm0:      Pin config: 0x02214c20
pcm0:     Pin control: 0x000000c0 HP OUT
pcm0:      Output amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x00270300
pcm0:                  mute=0 step=3 size=39 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 5
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=12 [audio mixer] (selected)
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=13 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=14 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=15 [audio mixer]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=38 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 28 [ANALOG] [DISABLED]
pcm0:            name: pin: CD (none)
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00400001
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:         Pin cap: 0x00000020
pcm0:                  IN
pcm0:      Pin config: 0x593301f0
pcm0:     Pin control: 0x00000020 IN
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 29 [ANALOG] [DISABLED]
pcm0:            name: pin: line out (none)
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00400000
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:         Pin cap: 0x00000020
pcm0:                  IN
pcm0:      Pin config: 0x4005c603
pcm0:     Pin control: 0x00000020 IN
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 30 [DIGITAL] [DISABLED]
pcm0:            name: pin: SPDIF out (jack)
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00400300
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:         Pin cap: 0x00000010
pcm0:                  OUT
pcm0:      Pin config: 0x014b1130
pcm0:     Pin control: 0x00000040 OUT
pcm0:     connections: 1
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=6 [audio output] [DISABLED]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 31 [DIGITAL] [DISABLED]
pcm0:            name: pin: speaker (none)
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00400200
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:         Pin cap: 0x00000020
pcm0:                  IN
pcm0:      Pin config: 0x411111f0
pcm0:     Pin control: 0x00000020 IN
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 32 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: vendor widget
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00f00040
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 33 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: vendor widget
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00f00000
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 34 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio mixer
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0020010f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000006
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 11
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=24 [pin: Mic in (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=25 [pin: Mic in (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=26 [pin: line in (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=27 [pin: headphones out (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=28 [pin: CD (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=29 [pin: line out (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=20 [pin: line out (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=21 [pin: speaker (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=22 [pin: speaker (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=23 [pin: speaker (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=11 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 35 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio mixer
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0020010f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000006
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 11
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=24 [pin: Mic in (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=25 [pin: Mic in (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=26 [pin: line in (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=27 [pin: headphones out (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=28 [pin: CD (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=29 [pin: line out (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=20 [pin: line out (jack)]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=21 [pin: speaker (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=22 [pin: speaker (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=23 [pin: speaker (none)] [DISABLED]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=11 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 36 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: vendor widget
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00f00000
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000000
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 37 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio output
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x00000011
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000001
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000011
pcm0:      Stream cap: 0x00000001
pcm0:          Format: PCM
pcm0:         PCM cap: 0x000e0560
pcm0:        PCM size: 16 20 24
pcm0:        PCM rate: 44 48 96 192
pcm0:     connections: 0
pcm0: 
pcm0:             nid: 38 [ANALOG]
pcm0:            name: audio mixer
pcm0:      widget_cap: 0x0020010f
pcm0:     Parse flags: 0x00000001
pcm0:       Ctl flags: 0x00000011
pcm0:      Output amp: 0x00051f1f
pcm0:                  mute=0 step=31 size=5 offset=31
pcm0:       Input amp: 0x80000000
pcm0:                  mute=1 step=0 size=0 offset=0
pcm0:     connections: 2
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=37 [audio output]
pcm0:           |
pcm0:           + <- nid=11 [audio mixer]
pcm0: 
pcm0: +------------------------+
pcm0: | DUMPING HDA AMPLIFIERS |
pcm0: +------------------------+
pcm0: 
pcm0:   1: nid=8 dir=0x2 index=0 ossmask=0x00000800 ossdev=0
pcm0:   2: nid=9 dir=0x2 index=0 ossmask=0x00000800 ossdev=0
pcm0:   3: nid=11 cnid=24 dir=0x2 index=0 ossmask=0x00000081 ossdev=7
pcm0:   4: nid=11 cnid=25 dir=0x2 index=1 ossmask=0x00000081 ossdev=7
pcm0:   5: nid=11 cnid=26 dir=0x2 index=2 ossmask=0x00000041 ossdev=6
pcm0:   6: nid=11 cnid=27 dir=0x2 index=3 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0
pcm0:   7: nid=11 cnid=28 dir=0x2 index=4 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0
[DISABLED] pcm0:   8: nid=11 cnid=29 dir=0x2 index=5 ossmask=0x00000000
ossdev=0 [DISABLED] pcm0:   9: nid=11 cnid=20 dir=0x2 index=6
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  10: nid=11 cnid=21 dir=0x2 index=7
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 [DISABLED] pcm0:  11: nid=11 cnid=22
dir=0x2 index=8 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 [DISABLED] pcm0:  12:
nid=11 cnid=23 dir=0x2 index=9 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 [DISABLED]
pcm0:  13: nid=12 dir=0x1 index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:
14: nid=12 cnid=2 dir=0x2 index=0 ossmask=0x00000011 ossdev=4 pcm0:
15: nid=12 cnid=11 dir=0x2 index=1 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:
16: nid=13 dir=0x1 index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  17:
nid=13 cnid=3 dir=0x2 index=0 ossmask=0x00000011 ossdev=4 pcm0:  18:
nid=13 cnid=11 dir=0x2 index=1 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  19:
nid=14 dir=0x1 index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  20: nid=14
cnid=4 dir=0x2 index=0 ossmask=0x00000011 ossdev=4 pcm0:  21: nid=14
cnid=11 dir=0x2 index=1 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  22: nid=15
dir=0x1 index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  23: nid=15 cnid=5
dir=0x2 index=0 ossmask=0x00000011 ossdev=4 pcm0:  24: nid=15 cnid=11
dir=0x2 index=1 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  25: nid=20 dir=0x1
index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  26: nid=20 dir=0x2 index=0
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  27: nid=21 dir=0x1 index=0
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 [DISABLED] pcm0:  28: nid=21 dir=0x2
index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 [DISABLED] pcm0:  29: nid=22
dir=0x1 index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 [DISABLED] pcm0:  30:
nid=22 dir=0x2 index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 [DISABLED] pcm0:
31: nid=23 dir=0x1 index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 [DISABLED]
pcm0:  32: nid=23 dir=0x2 index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0
[DISABLED] pcm0:  33: nid=24 dir=0x1 index=0 ossmask=0x00000000
ossdev=0 pcm0:  34: nid=24 dir=0x2 index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0
pcm0:  35: nid=25 dir=0x1 index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:
36: nid=25 dir=0x2 index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  37:
nid=26 dir=0x1 index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  38: nid=26
dir=0x2 index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  39: nid=27 dir=0x1
index=0 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  40: nid=27 dir=0x2 index=0
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  41: nid=34 cnid=24 dir=0x2 index=0
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  42: nid=34 cnid=25 dir=0x2 index=1
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  43: nid=34 cnid=26 dir=0x2 index=2
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  44: nid=34 cnid=27 dir=0x2 index=3
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  45: nid=34 cnid=28 dir=0x2 index=4
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 [DISABLED] pcm0:  46: nid=34 cnid=29
dir=0x2 index=5 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 [DISABLED] pcm0:  47:
nid=34 cnid=20 dir=0x2 index=6 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  48:
nid=34 cnid=21 dir=0x2 index=7 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 [DISABLED]
pcm0:  49: nid=34 cnid=22 dir=0x2 index=8 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0
[DISABLED] pcm0:  50: nid=34 cnid=23 dir=0x2 index=9 ossmask=0x00000000
ossdev=0 [DISABLED] pcm0:  51: nid=34 cnid=11 dir=0x2 index=10
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  52: nid=35 cnid=24 dir=0x2 index=0
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  53: nid=35 cnid=25 dir=0x2 index=1
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  54: nid=35 cnid=26 dir=0x2 index=2
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  55: nid=35 cnid=27 dir=0x2 index=3
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  56: nid=35 cnid=28 dir=0x2 index=4
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 [DISABLED] pcm0:  57: nid=35 cnid=29
dir=0x2 index=5 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 [DISABLED] pcm0:  58:
nid=35 cnid=20 dir=0x2 index=6 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  59:
nid=35 cnid=21 dir=0x2 index=7 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 [DISABLED]
pcm0:  60: nid=35 cnid=22 dir=0x2 index=8 ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0
[DISABLED] pcm0:  61: nid=35 cnid=23 dir=0x2 index=9 ossmask=0x00000000
ossdev=0 [DISABLED] pcm0:  62: nid=35 cnid=11 dir=0x2 index=10
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  63: nid=38 dir=0x1 index=0
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0:  64: nid=38 cnid=37 dir=0x2 index=0
ossmask=0x00000011 ossdev=4 pcm0:  65: nid=38 cnid=11 dir=0x2 index=1
ossmask=0x00000000 ossdev=0 pcm0: pcm0:
+-----------------------------------+ pcm0: | DUMPING HDA AUDIO/VOLUME
CONTROLS | pcm0: +-----------------------------------+ pcm0: 
pcm0: Master Volume (OSS: vol)
pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 11 index:  0 (nid: 24) mute: 1 step:  31 size:   5
off:  23 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000081 pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 11 index:  1 (nid: 25) mute: 1 step:  31 size:   5
off:  23 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000081 pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 11 index:  2 (nid: 26) mute: 1 step:  31 size:   5
off:  23 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000041 pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 12 index:  0 (nid:  2) mute: 1 step:   0 size:   0
off:   0 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000011 pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 13 index:  0 (nid:  3) mute: 1 step:   0 size:   0
off:   0 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000011 pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 14 index:  0 (nid:  4) mute: 1 step:   0 size:   0
off:   0 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000011 pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 15 index:  0 (nid:  5) mute: 1 step:   0 size:   0
off:   0 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000011 pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 38 index:  0 (nid: 37) mute: 1 step:   0 size:   0
off:   0 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000011 pcm0: 
pcm0: PCM Volume (OSS: pcm)
pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 12 index:  0 (nid:  2) mute: 1 step:   0 size:   0
off:   0 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000011 pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 13 index:  0 (nid:  3) mute: 1 step:   0 size:   0
off:   0 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000011 pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 14 index:  0 (nid:  4) mute: 1 step:   0 size:   0
off:   0 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000011 pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 15 index:  0 (nid:  5) mute: 1 step:   0 size:   0
off:   0 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000011 pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 38 index:  0 (nid: 37) mute: 1 step:   0 size:   0
off:   0 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000011 pcm0: 
pcm0: Microphone Volume (OSS: mic)
pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 11 index:  0 (nid: 24) mute: 1 step:  31 size:   5
off:  23 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000081 pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 11 index:  1 (nid: 25) mute: 1 step:  31 size:   5
off:  23 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000081 pcm0: 
pcm0: Line-in Volume (OSS: line)
pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid: 11 index:  2 (nid: 26) mute: 1 step:  31 size:   5
off:  23 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000041 pcm0: 
pcm0: Recording Level (OSS: rec)
pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid:  8 index:  0           mute: 1 step:  31 size:   5
off:   8 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000800 pcm0:    |
pcm0:    +-  nid:  9 index:  0           mute: 1 step:  31 size:   5
off:   8 dir=0x2 ossmask=0x00000800 pcm0: 
pcm0: Playback path:
pcm0: 
pcm0:     nid=20 [pin: line out (jack)]
pcm0:       ^
pcm0:       |
pcm0:       +-----<------+
pcm0:                    ^
pcm0:                    |
pcm0:                  nid=12 [audio mixer]
pcm0:                    ^
pcm0:                    |
pcm0:                  nid=2 [audio output]
pcm0: 
pcm0:     nid=27 [pin: headphones out (jack)]
pcm0:       ^
pcm0:       |
pcm0:       +-----<------+
pcm0:                    ^
pcm0:                    |
pcm0:                  nid=12 [audio mixer]
pcm0:                    ^
pcm0:                    |
pcm0:                  nid=2 [audio output]
pcm0: 
pcm0: Recording sources:
pcm0: 
pcm0:     nid=34 [audio mixer]
pcm0:       |
pcm0:       + <- nid=24 [pin: Mic in (jack)] [recsrc: vol, mic]
pcm0:       |
pcm0:       + <- nid=25 [pin: Mic in (jack)] [recsrc: vol, mic]
pcm0:       |
pcm0:       + <- nid=26 [pin: line in (jack)] [recsrc: vol, line]
pcm0:       |
pcm0:       + <- nid=27 [pin: headphones out (jack)]
pcm0:       |
pcm0:       + <- nid=20 [pin: line out (jack)]
pcm0:       |
pcm0:       + <- nid=11 [audio mixer] [recsrc: vol, line, mic]
pcm0: 
pcm0:     nid=35 [audio mixer]
pcm0:       |
pcm0:       + <- nid=24 [pin: Mic in (jack)] [recsrc: vol, mic]
pcm0:       |
pcm0:       + <- nid=25 [pin: Mic in (jack)] [recsrc: vol, mic]
pcm0:       |
pcm0:       + <- nid=26 [pin: line in (jack)] [recsrc: vol, line]
pcm0:       |
pcm0:       + <- nid=27 [pin: headphones out (jack)]
pcm0:       |
pcm0:       + <- nid=20 [pin: line out (jack)]
pcm0:       |
pcm0:       + <- nid=11 [audio mixer] [recsrc: vol, line, mic]
pcm0: 
pcm0: +--------------------------------------+
pcm0: | DUMPING PCM Playback/Record Channels |
pcm0: +--------------------------------------+
pcm0: 
pcm0:    PCM Playback: 1
pcm0:      Stream cap: 0x00000001
pcm0:          Format: PCM
pcm0:         PCM cap: 0x000e0560
pcm0:        PCM size: 16 20 24
pcm0:        PCM rate: 44 48 96 192
pcm0:             DAC: 2 3 4 5 37
pcm0: 
pcm0:      PCM Record: 1
pcm0:      Stream cap: 0x00000001
pcm0:          Format: PCM
pcm0:         PCM cap: 0x00060160
pcm0:        PCM size: 16 20
pcm0:        PCM rate: 44 48 96
pcm0:             ADC: 8 9
From stapleton.41 at gmail.com  Sun May 18 17:46:45 2008
From: stapleton.41 at gmail.com (Jim Stapleton)
Date: Sun May 18 17:46:49 2008
Subject: pvr-xxx on 7.0
In-Reply-To: <c39ec84c0804110805s384d34b8x705786e48038dd40@mail.gmail.com>
References: <80f4f2b20804080605x4a2e063av4327e8480d0ac9e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200804081339.m38DdVWD006894@lava.sentex.ca>
	<80f4f2b20804080714s437adf26n3890ab01737334ff@mail.gmail.com>
	<1d3ed48c0804080721s1395a0c9wc72bcc6b9df50037@mail.gmail.com>
	<c39ec84c0804110805s384d34b8x705786e48038dd40@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <80f4f2b20805181046m7c5a89eava4e33b4e636d69dd@mail.gmail.com>

> i observed something strange on 7.0 with this driver. mplayer is now
> able to sync a/v properly when doing "mplayer /dev/cxm0". i would like
> to hear from others about this.
>
> regards,
>
> usleepless


OK, it's worked for a while now (quite nicely, though my tuner is
suddenly having quality issues with the Coax, svideo works fine
(didn't work before, my cable box outputs svid, so I'm not terribly
bothered).

However, I get an odd issue, I doubt it's the driver though
if cat (or dd) /dev/cxm and pipe it to ffmpeg, while at the console,
it works fine. If I do so from another machine over X, it seems to
either send the output to the console and not ffmpeg, or send it to
both, either way it destroys my console pretty quickly.

Note: I've only tried that from a windows machine with Cygwin's SSH
(-YCX options), I'll try from a BSD machine at some point.

-Jim Stapleton
From pfgshield-freebsd at yahoo.com  Sun May 18 19:43:18 2008
From: pfgshield-freebsd at yahoo.com (pfgshield-freebsd@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun May 18 19:43:22 2008
Subject: pvr-xxx on 7.0
Message-ID: <681782.69370.qm@web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

FWIW;

It wouldn't help me since I have a USB PVR, but it would be nice if the
brooktree driver worked on amd64.

cheers,

    Pedro.


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From danny at ricin.com  Sun May 18 20:11:23 2008
From: danny at ricin.com (Danny Pansters)
Date: Sun May 18 20:11:27 2008
Subject: pvr-xxx on 7.0
In-Reply-To: <681782.69370.qm@web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <681782.69370.qm@web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200805182211.19198.danny@ricin.com>

On Sunday 18 May 2008 21:16:35 pfgshield-freebsd@yahoo.com wrote:
> FWIW;
>
> It wouldn't help me since I have a USB PVR, but it would be nice if the
> brooktree driver worked on amd64.
>

AFAIK it does. You just need to build and install the bktr kernel module. I 
don't know why it's not included by default in the amd64 releases.



From vwe at FreeBSD.org  Sun May 18 21:12:41 2008
From: vwe at FreeBSD.org (vwe@FreeBSD.org)
Date: Sun May 18 21:12:43 2008
Subject: kern/80465: [sound] pcm0:record:0: record interrupt timeout
	(Acer Labs M5451)
Message-ID: <200805182112.m4ILCfNR006105@freefall.freebsd.org>

Synopsis: [sound] pcm0:record:0: record interrupt timeout (Acer Labs M5451)

State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed
State-Changed-By: vwe
State-Changed-When: Sun May 18 21:12:10 UTC 2008
State-Changed-Why: 

We're sorry to not see any feedback received for quite some time.
If you think this is still an issue that should be worked on,
please provide the requested information and we'll be happy to
re-open this ticket.
Thank you for bringing this problem to attention!


Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-multimedia->vwe
Responsible-Changed-By: vwe
Responsible-Changed-When: Sun May 18 21:12:10 UTC 2008
Responsible-Changed-Why: 

track

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=80465
From amdmi3 at amdmi3.ru  Sun May 18 23:05:31 2008
From: amdmi3 at amdmi3.ru (Dmitry Marakasov)
Date: Sun May 18 23:05:36 2008
Subject: Gnash 0.8.2
In-Reply-To: <e71790db0805160511w1f5a2752mc744dbb6ce2c7fe2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080516052503.GF4543@hades.panopticon>
	<e71790db0805160511w1f5a2752mc744dbb6ce2c7fe2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080518230521.GB10136@hades.panopticon>

* Carlos A. M. dos Santos (unixmania@gmail.com) wrote:

> Yes, OpenGL renderer seems to be broken on 0.8.2. I attempted to use
> it but got much better results using AGG. I believe that it should be
> classified as experimental, like the Cairo renderer is.
Maybe, but it worked pretty good in 0.8.1 (no artifacts like with
cairo) and it was much faster. Gotta get some gdb traces and contact
gnash devs...

> > So, as I don't know many flash-enabled sites, I will be happy to
> > listen for your opinions on 0.8.1 vs 0.8.2. graphics/gnash-devel
> > port with recent CVS snapshot will be added without question, so
> > given that graphics/gnash may be left at 0.8.1 for now if upgrade
> > to 0.8.2 brings less than it takes.
> Both 0.8.2 and devel versions successfully render videos of some sites
> where 0.8.1 failed when I tested. This one, for example:
Uh huh, after closer examination I've noticed some improvements both in
0.8.1 -> 0.8.2 and 0.8.2 -> snapshot. No regressions actually besides 
OpenGL support.

> I noticed that video rendering lags behind audio with 0.8.2 and devel.
> It seems that video rendering with AGG is not fast enough, so I will
> try to improve the performance by trimming some compilation
> parameters.
Was an issue from beyond 0.8.1 afair. Switching to OpenGL helped more or
less.

Anyway, both 0.8.2 update and gnash-devel are submitted (ports/123708
and ports/123744 respectively), so it's only days before miwi commits
them. Enjoy ;)

-- 
Dmitry A. Marakasov    | jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru
amdmi3@amdmi3.ru       | http://www.amdmi3.ru
From Henri-Pierre.Charles at teaser.fr  Mon May 19 07:21:54 2008
From: Henri-Pierre.Charles at teaser.fr (Henri-Pierre Charles)
Date: Mon May 19 07:21:57 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
Message-ID: <20080519070430.GA11167@asus.hpch.net>

Le Sat, May 10, 2008 at 03:19:32PM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski me disait :
> Section "Device"
> 	Identifier	"Card0"
> 	Driver		"radeon"
> 	VendorName	"ATI"
> 	BoardName	"ATI Radeon 9000 Pro"
> 	Option		"AccelMethod"	"XAA"
> 	Option		"AGPMode"	"1"
> 	Option		"EnablePageFlip"	"1"
> 	Option		"ColorTiling"	"1"
> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
> 	Option "backingstore" "true"
> EndSection

Did you tried to do a "grep WW /log/Xorg.0.log ?

I did it on your log and I found :
(WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found

Do you have tried to use this number instead 1:0:0 in your xorg.log ?

H-P

-- 
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% http://lesharmoniques.org 			L'ensemble vocal de Versailles
% http://georgieenmarche.blogspot.com/ 		La géorgie qui se transforme
From zb at ispid.com.pl  Mon May 19 08:05:23 2008
From: zb at ispid.com.pl (Zbigniew Baniewski)
Date: Mon May 19 08:05:27 2008
Subject: FreeBSD7/xorg/radeon: Section "Screen" totally ignored
In-Reply-To: <20080519070430.GA11167@asus.hpch.net>
References: <20080510131932.GA5444@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>
	<20080519070430.GA11167@asus.hpch.net>
Message-ID: <20080519080520.GA5256@sarge.my.own.domain.no-net>

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 09:04:30AM +0200, Henri-Pierre Charles wrote:

> I did it on your log and I found :
> (WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found

That BusID line could be commented out as well.

> Do you have tried to use this number instead 1:0:0 in your xorg.log ?

Yes, and it's causing even more serious error: "No Screens found", not
allowing X-server to start.
-- 
				pozdrawiam / regards

						Zbigniew Baniewski
From bugmaster at FreeBSD.org  Mon May 19 11:06:56 2008
From: bugmaster at FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD bugmaster)
Date: Mon May 19 11:07:33 2008
Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID: <200805191106.m4JB6tJQ011645@freefall.freebsd.org>

Current FreeBSD problem reports
Critical problems
Serious problems

S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/63204   multimedia [sound] /dev/mixer broken with ESS Maestro-2E (still o
o kern/79905   multimedia [sound] sis7018 sound module problem
o kern/79912   multimedia [sound] sound broken for 2 VIA chipsets: interrupt sto
o kern/81146   multimedia [sound] Sound isn't working AT ALL for Sis7012 onboard
o kern/82043   multimedia [sound] snd_emu10k1 - mixer does not work.
o kern/94279   multimedia [snd_neomagic] snd_neomagic crashes on FreeBSD 5.4 and
o kern/96538   multimedia [sound] emu10k1-driver inverts channels
o kern/97535   multimedia [snd_mss] doesn't work in 6.0-RELEASE and above for Cr
o kern/98167   multimedia [sound] [es137x] [patch] ES1370 mixer volumes incorrec
o kern/98752   multimedia [sound] Intel ich6 82801 FB - on Packard Bell A8810 la
o kern/104626  multimedia [sound] FreeBSD 6.2 does not support SoundBlaster Audi
o kern/104874  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] kldload snd_emu10k1 hangs system
o kern/107051  multimedia [sound] only 2 channels output works for the ALC850 (o
o kern/107516  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] - skips, clicks and lag after a day of h
o kern/114760  multimedia [snd_cmi] snd_cmi driver causing sporadic system hangs
o kern/115666  multimedia [sound] Microphone does not work
o ports/118104 multimedia [PATCH] multimedia/vlc - volume bar position almost in
o kern/119181  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda needs doesn't recognise headphones o
o kern/119759  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] Can not record anything with emu10k1 on 
o kern/120144  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda plays sound on all outputs
o kern/121156  multimedia [sound]: [PATCH] Turn on inverted external amplifier s
o kern/122086  multimedia [sound] maestro sound driver is working, but mixer ini
o ports/122305 multimedia multimedia/gstreame - gst-inspect-0.10 hangs when chec
o ports/123327 multimedia Port fix: graphics/libcaca - CONFIGURE_ENV incorrectly

24 problems total.

Non-critical problems

S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/23546   multimedia [snd_csa] [patch] csa DMA-interrupt problem
o kern/37600   multimedia [sound] [partial patch] t4dwave drive doesn't record.
s kern/60599   multimedia [bktr] [partial patch] No sound for ATI TV Wonder (ste
o kern/60677   multimedia [sound] [patch] No reaction of volume controy key on I
o kern/72995   multimedia [sound] Intel ICH2 (82801BA) - sound nearly inaudible
o kern/79678   multimedia [sound] sound works except recording from any source
o kern/80632   multimedia [sound] pcm driver missing support for CMI8738 auxilla
s kern/83697   multimedia [snd_mss] [patch] support, docs added for full-duplex,
o kern/87782   multimedia [sound] snd_t4dwave and pcm0:record:0: record interrup
o kern/92512   multimedia [sound] distorted mono output with emu10k1
o kern/93986   multimedia [sound] Acer TravelMate 4652LMi pcm0 channel dead
o kern/95086   multimedia [sound] uaudio line in problem with sbdm lx
o kern/97609   multimedia [sound] Load Sound Module - VIA8233 - fails
o kern/98496   multimedia [snd_ich] some functions don't work in my sound kernel
o kern/98504   multimedia [sound] Sound is distorted with SB Live 5.1
o kern/100859  multimedia [snd_ich] snd_ich broken on GIGABYTE 915 system
o kern/101417  multimedia [sound] 4-speakers output not possible on Asus A8V-Del
o kern/111767  multimedia [sound] ATI SB450 High Definition Audio Controller sou
s kern/113950  multimedia [sound] [patch] [request] add per-vchan mixer support
f ports/114573 multimedia multimedia/vlc-devel doesn't compile when the QT4 opti
o kern/115300  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda(4) fails to attach on -CURRENT [regr
o kern/117599  multimedia [sound] Audio routing problem NVIDIA MCP51 HDA
o kern/117729  multimedia [snd_hda] microphone is not working with snd_hda on Fr
o ports/117810 multimedia multimedia/vlc-devel port could be compiled with lua m
o ports/117824 multimedia CONFIGURE_LINE truncated to 2048 chars in [at least] m
o ports/118168 multimedia [patch] multimedia/transcode - Add WITHOUT_X11 and WIT
o ports/118237 multimedia Ports: multimedia/ffmpeg fix configure option and add 
o ports/118289 multimedia port of multimedia/tovid only semi works on 6.2 Releas
o kern/119671  multimedia [snd_hda] line is mic and mic is line on Fujitsu Sieme
o kern/119931  multimedia [sound] No sound card detected on ASUS "K8V-X SE R2.00
o kern/119973  multimedia [snd_maestro] snd_maestro only works after reload [reg
o kern/120780  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda doesn't work on Dell Latitutude D530
o kern/120857  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] snd_emu10k1 driver issues a warning on u
o ports/121662 multimedia graphics/libcaca - not bumped after imlib2 upgrade
o ports/122899 multimedia [PATCH] audio/liba52: powerpc build requires -fPIC
o ports/122922 multimedia [ patch ] multimedia/ffmpeg text output is mangled
o ports/122967 multimedia Port fix: multimedia/y4mscaler - Define missing symbol
o ports/122984 multimedia Port fix: multimedia/dirac-reference - Fix pkg-plist
o ports/123409 multimedia [Patch] ports:multimedia/ffmpeg fix WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFL
o ports/123684 multimedia [PATCH] audio/nas: update to 1.9.1

40 problems total.

From unixmania at gmail.com  Mon May 19 12:16:15 2008
From: unixmania at gmail.com (Carlos A. M. dos Santos)
Date: Mon May 19 12:16:22 2008
Subject: Gnash 0.8.2
In-Reply-To: <e71790db0805162005m34572505x1df42108851c5384@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080516052503.GF4543@hades.panopticon>
	<e71790db0805160511w1f5a2752mc744dbb6ce2c7fe2@mail.gmail.com>
	<e71790db0805162005m34572505x1df42108851c5384@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e71790db0805190516g2d6f20at68e651e0aa041fd2@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Carlos A. M. dos Santos
<unixmania@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Carlos A. M. dos Santos
[...]
>> I noticed that video rendering lags behind audio with 0.8.2 and devel.
>> It seems that video rendering with AGG is not fast enough, so I will
>> try to improve the performance by trimming some compilation
>> parameters.
>
> The lag happens when I use the browser plugin, not the standalone
> player. [...]

The lag happens when the gnash plugin passes the -j <width> -k
<height> to scale the video to the desired size inside the browser
window. I noticed the same problem when using the standalone player.

-- 
Carlos A. M. dos Santos
From freebsdlists at bsdunix.ch  Mon May 19 12:29:01 2008
From: freebsdlists at bsdunix.ch (Thomas Vogt)
Date: Mon May 19 12:29:08 2008
Subject: WinTV-PVR-USB2
Message-ID: <48316DE6.7010609@bsdunix.ch>

Hello

Is this Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-USB2 supported by FreeBSD 7.0?
(http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_pvrusb2.html)

I just need the FM (Radio) tuner on this card.
Thanks for any information.

Best Regards,
Thomas Vogt

From hselasky at c2i.net  Mon May 19 16:35:48 2008
From: hselasky at c2i.net (Hans Petter Selasky)
Date: Mon May 19 16:35:55 2008
Subject: WinTV-PVR-USB2
In-Reply-To: <48316DE6.7010609@bsdunix.ch>
References: <48316DE6.7010609@bsdunix.ch>
Message-ID: <200805191737.11573.hselasky@c2i.net>

Hi,

Not in the default installation.

Maybe there is something in /usr/ports

--HPS

On Monday 19 May 2008, Thomas Vogt wrote:
> Hello
>
> Is this Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-USB2 supported by FreeBSD 7.0?
> (http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_pvrusb2.html)
>
> I just need the FM (Radio) tuner on this card.
> Thanks for any information.
>
> Best Regards,
> Thomas Vogt
>
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From danny at ricin.com  Mon May 19 23:06:29 2008
From: danny at ricin.com (Danny Pansters)
Date: Mon May 19 23:06:34 2008
Subject: WinTV-PVR-USB2
In-Reply-To: <48316DE6.7010609@bsdunix.ch>
References: <48316DE6.7010609@bsdunix.ch>
Message-ID: <200805200106.25712.danny@ricin.com>

On Monday 19 May 2008 14:09:10 Thomas Vogt wrote:
> Hello
>
> Is this Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-USB2 supported by FreeBSD 7.0?
> (http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_pvrusb2.html)

No
From freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com  Tue May 20 18:29:15 2008
From: freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com (Dieter)
Date: Tue May 20 18:29:22 2008
Subject: Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders
Message-ID: <200805201826.SAA25413@sopwith.solgatos.com>

The Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders for
the OGD1 development board.  This PCI-X board has 2 FPGA chips
and video outputs (2 heads).  List price is $1500, the
first 100 orders get a $100 discount.  There are developer
discounts available, so someone writing a BSD device driver,
or working on X11 support, etc. could get a board for $700-1000.
There is a variety of development work that needs to be done.
Profits from the OGD1 board will be used to bootstrap other FLOSS
friendly hardware projects (not limited to graphics).  If you are
tired of undocumented hardware, here is a chance to do something
about it.

The product info page:
http://www.traversaltech.com/products.phtml

The FAQ:
http://www.traversaltech.com/ogd1p_faq2.phtml

The order page:
http://www.traversaltech.com/store.phtml

For a developer discount, contact the Open Hardware Foundation:
http://www.openhardwarefoundation.org/
From linimon at FreeBSD.org  Wed May 21 13:54:10 2008
From: linimon at FreeBSD.org (linimon@FreeBSD.org)
Date: Wed May 21 13:54:21 2008
Subject: FreeBSD ports that you maintain which are currently marked broken
Message-ID: <20080521135409.D04081CCF3@mail.droso.net>

Dear FreeBSD port maintainer:

As part of an ongoing effort to reduce the number of problems in
the FreeBSD ports system, we periodically notify users of ports
that are marked as "broken" in their Makefiles.  In many cases
these ports are failing to compile on some subset of the FreeBSD
build environments.  The most common problem is that recent versions
of -CURRENT include gcc4.2, which is much stricter than older versions.
The next most common problem is that compiles succeed on the i386
architecture (e.g. the common Intel PC), but fail on one or more
of the other architectures due to assumptions about things such as
size of various types, byte-alignment issues, and so forth.

In occasional cases we see that the same port may have different
errors in different build environments.  The script that runs on the
build cluster uses heuristics to try to 'guess' the error type to
help you isolate problems, but it is only a rough guide.

One more note: on occasion, there are transient build errors seen
on the build farm.  Unfortunately, there is not yet any way for this
algorithm to tell the difference (humans are much, much better at
this kind of thing.)

The errors are listed below.  In the case where the same problem
exists on more than one build environment, the URL points to the
latest errorlog for that type.  (By 'build environment' here we
mean 'combination of 5.x/6.x/-current with target architecture'.)

(Note: the dates are included to help you to gauge whether or not
the error still applies to the latest version.  The program
that generates this report is not yet able to determine this
automatically.)

portname:           audio/gstreamer-plugins-spc
broken because:     does not compile
build errors:
http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/i386-errorlogs/e.6.2008050122/gstreamer-plugins-spc-0.10.7_2,3.log (&nbsp;)
overview:           http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=audio&portname=gstreamer-plugins-spc


portname:           graphics/gstreamer-plugins-swfdec
broken because:     Does not compile
build errors:       none.
overview:           http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=graphics&portname=gstreamer-plugins-swfdec


portname:           multimedia/dirac-reference
broken because:     Incorrect pkg-plist
build errors:
http://pointyhat.FreeBSD.org/errorlogs/sparc64-errorlogs/e.5.2006121119/dirac-reference-0.6.0_2.log (Dec 28 19:25:05 UTC 2006)
overview:           http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=multimedia&portname=dirac-reference


portname:           multimedia/mjpegtools-yuvfilters
broken because:     Does not compile
build errors:
http://pointyhat.FreeBSD.org/errorlogs/sparc64-errorlogs/e.6.2008021817/mjpegtools-yuvfilters-1.1_4.log (Mar  5 04:11:36 UTC 2008)
overview:           http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=multimedia&portname=mjpegtools-yuvfilters


portname:           multimedia/y4mscaler
broken because:     Does not compile
build errors:
http://pointyhat.FreeBSD.org/errorlogs/sparc64-errorlogs/e.6.2008021817/y4mscaler-9.0_2.log (Mar  5 04:11:47 UTC 2008)
overview:           http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=multimedia&portname=y4mscaler


If these errors are ones that you are already aware of, please
accept our apologies and ignore this message.  On the other hand, if
you no longer wish to maintain this port (or ports), please reply
with a message stating that, and accept our thanks for your efforts
in the past.

Every effort has been made to make sure that these error reports
really do correspond to a port that you maintain.  However, due to
the fact that this is an automated process, it may indeed generate
false matches.  If one of these errors fits that description,
please forward this email to the author of this software, Mark
Linimon <linimon@FreeBSD.org>, so that he can attempt to fix the
problem in the future.

Thanks for your efforts to help improve FreeBSD.
From amdmi3 at amdmi3.ru  Thu May 22 02:09:22 2008
From: amdmi3 at amdmi3.ru (Dmitry Marakasov)
Date: Thu May 22 02:09:26 2008
Subject: Gnash 0.8.2
In-Reply-To: <e71790db0805160511w1f5a2752mc744dbb6ce2c7fe2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080516052503.GF4543@hades.panopticon>
	<e71790db0805160511w1f5a2752mc744dbb6ce2c7fe2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080522020925.GD1299@hades.panopticon>

* Carlos A. M. dos Santos (unixmania@gmail.com) wrote:

> Yes, OpenGL renderer seems to be broken on 0.8.2.
I think I've found the cause of this. May I ask what video card,
video driver and xorg server version are you using? May be bug in
either of those, I'll investigate further.

-- 
Dmitry A. Marakasov    | jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru
amdmi3@amdmi3.ru       | http://www.amdmi3.ru
From unixmania at gmail.com  Thu May 22 03:35:37 2008
From: unixmania at gmail.com (Carlos A. M. dos Santos)
Date: Thu May 22 03:35:39 2008
Subject: Gnash 0.8.2
In-Reply-To: <20080522020925.GD1299@hades.panopticon>
References: <20080516052503.GF4543@hades.panopticon>
	<e71790db0805160511w1f5a2752mc744dbb6ce2c7fe2@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080522020925.GD1299@hades.panopticon>
Message-ID: <e71790db0805212035q54e8eb8ew2ef6516e06b40093@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Dmitry Marakasov <amdmi3@amdmi3.ru> wrote:
> * Carlos A. M. dos Santos (unixmania@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> Yes, OpenGL renderer seems to be broken on 0.8.2.
> I think I've found the cause of this. May I ask what video card,
> video driver and xorg server version are you using? May be bug in
> either of those, I'll investigate further.

# pciconf  -lv
hostb0@pci0:0:0:0:	class=0x060000 card=0x30aa103c chip=0x27a08086
rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
    vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
    device     = '955XM/945GM/PM/GMS/940GML Express Processor to DRAM
Controller'
    class      = bridge
    subclass   = HOST-PCI

The driver is xf86-video-intel-2.2.1.

The relevant information given by the kernel is this:

vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> port 0x6000-0x6007 mem
0xe8400000-0xe847ffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xe8480000-0xe84bff
ff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0
agp0: <Intel 82945GM (945GM GMCH) SVGA controller> on vgapci0
agp0: detected 7932k stolen memory
agp0: aperture size is 256M
drm0: <Intel i945GM> on vgapci0
info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 256MB
info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.5.0 20060119
vgapci1: <VGA-compatible display> mem 0xe8500000-0xe857ffff at device
2.1 on pci0

-- 
Carlos A. M. dos Santos
From funman at videolan.org  Thu May 22 15:26:28 2008
From: funman at videolan.org (=?UTF-8?B?UmFmYcOrbCBDYXJyw6k=?=)
Date: Thu May 22 15:26:57 2008
Subject: [PORT] multimedia/vlc-devel
Message-ID: <20080522165807.3a657d41@kebab>

Dear `make -C $PORTSDIR/multimedia/vlc-devel maintainer`

I have sent you a patch 6 months ago (PR 117810) and wrote some
follow-up to other bugs (117824 and 114573).

Since you have been rather inactive, I would like to become the
maintainer of the multimedia/vlc-devel port.

I am part of the VLC team for about 2 years, and have some experience
with FreeBSD and Makefiles, so I'd be glad to help.

Thanks

-- 
Rafa?l Carr?
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From ahze at freebsd.org  Thu May 22 16:06:35 2008
From: ahze at freebsd.org (Michael Johnson)
Date: Thu May 22 16:06:42 2008
Subject: [PORT] multimedia/vlc-devel
In-Reply-To: <20080522165807.3a657d41@kebab>
References: <20080522165807.3a657d41@kebab>
Message-ID: <b2203fed0805220839g67d6af6dq896c641108b65969@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Rafa?l Carr? <funman@videolan.org> wrote:

> Dear `make -C $PORTSDIR/multimedia/vlc-devel maintainer`
>
> I have sent you a patch 6 months ago (PR 117810) and wrote some
> follow-up to other bugs (117824 and 114573).
>
> Since you have been rather inactive, I would like to become the
> maintainer of the multimedia/vlc-devel port.
>
> I am part of the VLC team for about 2 years, and have some experience
> with FreeBSD and Makefiles, so I'd be glad to help.
>

I have no problem with this. I don't have access to my FreeBSD ssh key to
commit this change right now because I am in the process of moving (I'm in
Oregon for a 4-6 weeks before I move too).... Do you wish to maintain
multimedia/vlc also?

Thanks,
Michael


> Thanks
>
> --
> Rafa?l Carr?
>
From frtzkatz at yahoo.com  Thu May 22 20:57:49 2008
From: frtzkatz at yahoo.com (Fritz Katz)
Date: Thu May 22 20:57:54 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best?
Message-ID: <789893.33757.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


Is there a TV-Tuner card (that works under FreeBSD!)
which can tune to RF-input with any of the world's TV
standards?

Or, do I need to open up my PC and switch out the card
when I travel to Europe/USSR/USA/Japan/...

Please post your success and failure stories about
TV-Tuner cards here!

While we're at it, has anyone been able to get any of
the USB TV tuners working with FreeBSD?

------------------

I'll go first with a failure story. 

I bought a Zogis "Real Angel 220 PCI Analog TV Tuner"
http://www.zogis.com/main_products_series_tv_tuner_PCI_RA220.htm

The box claims it supports PAL-BG/DK/I/M/N, NTSC,
SECAM

However, I peeled-back the sticker covering the
TV-tuner canister on the board and discovered the part
number "TNF 5535-MF" which appears to be an NTSC-only
part.

Using KBTV ( http://freebsd.ricin.com/kbtv/ ) the
composite input works OK. However when I connect an
antenna and attempt a channel scan -- the program
hangs. 

Best Regards,
-- Fritz Katz







      
From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu May 22 21:39:15 2008
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard Bown)
Date: Thu May 22 21:39:20 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best?
In-Reply-To: <789893.33757.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <789893.33757.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080522223915.12bcfe41@gb7tf>

On Thu, 22 May 2008 13:31:07 -0700 (PDT)
Fritz Katz <frtzkatz@yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> Is there a TV-Tuner card (that works under FreeBSD!)
> which can tune to RF-input with any of the world's TV
> standards?
> 
> Or, do I need to open up my PC and switch out the card
> when I travel to Europe/USSR/USA/Japan/...
> 
> Please post your success and failure stories about
> TV-Tuner cards here!
> 
> While we're at it, has anyone been able to get any of
> the USB TV tuners working with FreeBSD?
> 
> ------------------
>
Hi Fritz
Apparently a USB DVB-T stick usually sold under the "pinnicle" brand
does or did until the chip set was up graded
If you look for a  card sold in Europe you can nearly always guarantee
PAL and SECAM, If it does PAL you should have no problems with NTSC,
all they do is turnoff the PAL switch
If I could remember the exact spelling, but something like Hauppage
produce a good selection of PCI &,USBTV cards/sticks, the analogure
connexant drivers are fairly mature..

HTH

Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
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> 

From aragon at phat.za.net  Thu May 22 21:49:00 2008
From: aragon at phat.za.net (Aragon Gouveia)
Date: Thu May 22 21:49:02 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best?
In-Reply-To: <789893.33757.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <789893.33757.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080522214858.GA96544@phat.za.net>

| By Fritz Katz <frtzkatz@yahoo.com>
|                                          [ 2008-05-22 22:58 +0200 ]
> 
> Is there a TV-Tuner card (that works under FreeBSD!)
> which can tune to RF-input with any of the world's TV
> standards?
> 
> Or, do I need to open up my PC and switch out the card
> when I travel to Europe/USSR/USA/Japan/...
> 
> Please post your success and failure stories about
> TV-Tuner cards here!

Very happy with my Hauppauge PVR-350.  I have the Euro version so running
PAL.  It supposedly supports all the PAL and SECAM variants, altho I've only
used it with PAL signals.


> While we're at it, has anyone been able to get any of
> the USB TV tuners working with FreeBSD?

I've only heard the answer 'no' to these questions...


Regards,
Aragon
From danny at ricin.com  Thu May 22 23:47:50 2008
From: danny at ricin.com (Danny Pansters)
Date: Thu May 22 23:47:54 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best?
In-Reply-To: <789893.33757.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <789893.33757.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200805230117.05117.danny@ricin.com>

On Thursday 22 May 2008 22:31:07 Fritz Katz wrote:
> Is there a TV-Tuner card (that works under FreeBSD!)
> which can tune to RF-input with any of the world's TV
> standards?
>
> Or, do I need to open up my PC and switch out the card
> when I travel to Europe/USSR/USA/Japan/...
>
> Please post your success and failure stories about
> TV-Tuner cards here!
>
> While we're at it, has anyone been able to get any of
> the USB TV tuners working with FreeBSD?
>
> ------------------
>
> I'll go first with a failure story.
>
> I bought a Zogis "Real Angel 220 PCI Analog TV Tuner"
> http://www.zogis.com/main_products_series_tv_tuner_PCI_RA220.htm
>
> The box claims it supports PAL-BG/DK/I/M/N, NTSC,
> SECAM
>
> However, I peeled-back the sticker covering the
> TV-tuner canister on the board and discovered the part
> number "TNF 5535-MF" which appears to be an NTSC-only
> part.
>
> Using KBTV ( http://freebsd.ricin.com/kbtv/ ) the
> composite input works OK. However when I connect an
> antenna and attempt a channel scan -- the program
> hangs.

Can you try kbtv2 (http://freebsd.ricin.com/kbtv2)? It likely gives the same 
result, because this tuner is unknown to me but kbtv2 is what you should test 
against (kbtv1 is not developed anymore). Try MK3 tuner.

Please note that for the 1.95 (RC2) release I forgot to 'make makesum' in the 
ports' directories, so you'll have to do that yourself, sorry.


Dan

>
> Best Regards,
> -- Fritz Katz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"


From freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com  Fri May 23 02:31:37 2008
From: freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com (Dieter)
Date: Fri May 23 02:31:40 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best? 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 22 May 2008 13:31:07 PDT."
	<789893.33757.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> 
Message-ID: <200805230229.CAA24275@sopwith.solgatos.com>

> Is there a TV-Tuner card (that works under FreeBSD!)
> which can tune to RF-input with any of the world's TV
> standards?

NTSC, PAL, & SECAM aren't enough.  You need to add the
digital ATSC/8VSB and DVB-T/COFDM to your list.

Some chips handle all 3 analog formats, but I don't know of
any demodulator chips that do both ATSC/8VSB and DVB-T/COFDM.

> While we're at it, has anyone been able to get any of
> the USB TV tuners working with FreeBSD?

Not that I've heard of.  Perhaps the firewire tuners
would be easier?
From solarux at hotmail.com  Fri May 23 07:43:02 2008
From: solarux at hotmail.com (Rick Nekus)
Date: Fri May 23 07:43:06 2008
Subject: Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders
In-Reply-To: <200805201826.SAA25413@sopwith.solgatos.com>
References: <200805201826.SAA25413@sopwith.solgatos.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-W28235BF47DBDA5B351CDC4A1C10@phx.gbl>


Hi,
 I'm just curious here, but why PCI-X, why not PCI-EXpress ? or is this obviously for development reasons.
> To: freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org; freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 11:26:31 +0100> From: freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com> CC: > Subject: Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders> > The Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders for> the OGD1 development board. This PCI-X board has 2 FPGA chips> and video outputs (2 heads). List price is $1500, the> first 100 orders get a $100 discount. There are developer> discounts available, so someone writing a BSD device driver,> or working on X11 support, etc. could get a board for $700-1000.> There is a variety of development work that needs to be done.> Profits from the OGD1 board will be used to bootstrap other FLOSS> friendly hardware projects (not limited to graphics). If you are> tired of undocumented hardware, here is a chance to do something> about it.> > The product info page:> http://www.traversaltech.com/products.phtml> > The FAQ:> http://www.traversaltech.com/ogd1p_faq2.phtml> > The order page:> http://www.traversaltech.com/store.phtml> > For a developer discount, contact the Open Hardware Foundation:> http://www.openhardwarefoundation.org/> _______________________________________________> freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org mailing list> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From yongjhen at gmail.com  Fri May 23 08:25:35 2008
From: yongjhen at gmail.com (Yong-Jhen Hong)
Date: Fri May 23 08:25:39 2008
Subject: Webcam and linux-gspca-kmod
Message-ID: <48367933.8030600@gmail.com>

Hi all,

I want to enable the use of built-in webcam on my Asus W5F, so I have
less reason and time to reboot into other OS ;)

After looking for some information from google, it seems Luigi's Linux
driver emulation layer is the best way to go, and I am sure my webcam
works under Ubuntu 8.04, which uses gspcav1 version 20070508.

It is also great to learn that Luigi also make a port
multimedia/linux-gspca-kmod, and it uses gspcav1 version 20071220.
I try to build and load the kernel module, but it fails:

<terminal>
[yongjhen@monster ~]$ sudo kldload gspca
kldload: can't load gspca: No such file or directory
</terminal>

and there is an error message from dmesg:
<dmesg>
link_elf: symbol msleep undefined
</dmesg>

I look into the source tree of FreeBSD, thinking that the msleep() API
change should be nearer to kernel version 700054 than 700100, so I make
this one line change to
$PREFIX/share/linux-kmod-compat/linux_compat/linux_compat.c

<diff>
-#if __FreeBSD_version > 700100
+#if __FreeBSD_version > 700054
</diff>

and re-build the module. This time the module loads and /dev/video0
appears!

>From dmesg:
<dmesg>
usb_spca5xx_init: gspca driver 01.00.20 registered
ldev0 on uhub4
ldev_attach: sc at 0xca71bb00, l_u_d at 0xca71bb58
--- allocate 336 bytes gives 0xc765ea00
interface 0 has 8 altsettings (cur 0)
gspca_attach_bridge: USB GSPCA camera found.(VC0321)
spca5xx_probe: [spca5xx_probe:4259] Camera type YUYV
vc032x_probe_sensor: [vc032x_probe_sensor:140] check sensor header 44
vc032x_read_sensor_register: [vc032x_read_sensor_register:123] Read
Sensor h (0x00) m (0x30) l (0x31)
vc032x_read_sensor_register: [vc032x_read_sensor_register:123] Read
Sensor h (0x00) m (0x30) l (0x31)
vc032x_read_sensor_register: [vc032x_read_sensor_register:123] Read
Sensor h (0x00) m (0x30) l (0x31)
vc0321_config: [vc0321_config:371] Find Sensor PO3130NC
spca5xx_getcapability: [spca5xx_getcapability:1239] maxw 640 maxh 480
minw 176 minh 144
62926735 [1117] video_register_device: to be fixed but ok for now
ldev0: Vimicro Corp. USB2.0 Web Camera, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2
</dmesg>

But when I launch Gnome Cheese to test the driver, it still doesn't
work, with dmesg:
<dmesg>
63052317 [1081] video_devdata: not complete but ok for now
spca5xx_set_light_freq: [spca5xx_set_light_freq:1920] Sensor currently
not support light frequency banding filters.
gspca_set_isoc_ep: [gspca_set_isoc_ep:936] ISO EndPoint found 0x82
AlternateSet 7
63052899 [ 876] usb_submit_urb: openpipe error 4
init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -463052899 [ 959] usb_kill_urb: not
complete but try something
63052899 [ 959] usb_kill_urb: not complete but try something
63052899 [ 959] usb_kill_urb: not complete but try something
63052899 [ 959] usb_kill_urb: not complete but try something
spca5xx_open: [spca5xx_open:1987]  DEALLOC error on init_Isoc
</dmesg>

Thinking that might be problem of gspca, I also try to re-build module
with version 20070508 instead (the version Ubuntu 8.04 uses), but the
result is the same :(

Does anyone have similar experience?


Regards,
yongjhen

From rizzo at iet.unipi.it  Fri May 23 09:06:38 2008
From: rizzo at iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo)
Date: Fri May 23 09:06:42 2008
Subject: Webcam and linux-gspca-kmod
In-Reply-To: <48367933.8030600@gmail.com>
References: <48367933.8030600@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080523085045.GB77439@onelab2.iet.unipi.it>

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 03:58:43PM +0800, Yong-Jhen Hong wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I want to enable the use of built-in webcam on my Asus W5F, so I have
> less reason and time to reboot into other OS ;)
...
> I look into the source tree of FreeBSD, thinking that the msleep() API
> change should be nearer to kernel version 700054 than 700100, so I make
> this one line change to
> $PREFIX/share/linux-kmod-compat/linux_compat/linux_compat.c
> 
> <diff>
> -#if __FreeBSD_version > 700100
> +#if __FreeBSD_version > 700054
> </diff>

ok thanks for the patch, i will try to fix this in the next release.

> But when I launch Gnome Cheese to test the driver, it still doesn't
> work, with dmesg:

in order to test the driver, the best option is to use
the 'pwcview' program in the linux-kmod-compat directory.

Re. other applications, one thing to remember is that the freebsd
port of gspca does not support mmap, which seems to be the preferred
access method for Linux apps.  So you need to rewrite a small piece
of the client using read() to a locally allocated buffer to access
the video.

A patch of this kind for linphone is at

	http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/patch-msv4l.c

see if you can do something similar with your program.

	cheers
	luigi
From freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com  Fri May 23 15:22:45 2008
From: freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com (Dieter)
Date: Fri May 23 15:23:02 2008
Subject: Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 23 May 2008 07:43:01 -0000."
	<BAY113-W28235BF47DBDA5B351CDC4A1C10@phx.gbl> 
Message-ID: <200805231515.PAA10055@sopwith.solgatos.com>

> I'm just curious here, but why PCI-X, why not PCI-EXpress ?
> or is this obviously for development reasons.

According to the FAQ,

	While most graphics cards now fit in PCI Express slots,
	PCI is more popular with users of FPGA kits. We have
	identified the parts necessary to support PCI Express,
	so if there is demand, we can build them.  In the mean
	time, we need to sell the PCI version OGD1 to bootstrap
	our efforts.

	PCI-X is backward compatible with your 32-bit 33MHz PCI slots,
	and OGD1 has been tested with several PC motherboards. Note
	that some PC motherboards may position components so that they
	interfere with the "extended" part of the PCI card edge for
	some slots.  OGD1 is 6.875in long and 4.2in wide
	(17.46cm x 10.67cm).  Some small form-factor systems do not
	provide enough room in one or both dimensions.

There is a development advantage to PCI.  PCI is a bus, so it is easy
to sniff the bus if things aren't working.  There has been some
discussion about writing software to turn the OGD1 into a PCI bus
sniffer, for developing other boards.

If you are interested in buying a PCIe version of OGD1, OGP needs to
hear about it.
From rizzo at iet.unipi.it  Fri May 23 15:46:37 2008
From: rizzo at iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo)
Date: Fri May 23 15:46:40 2008
Subject: pointers to a generic firefox wrapper for unix applications
Message-ID: <20080523153126.GA82785@onelab2.iet.unipi.it>

Hi,
recently we have started a small project to write a wrapper
to run generic X applications within a firefox window:

http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/FreeBSD/app-wrapper.html

To some degree, it is similar to the existing 'www/mozplugger'
(we were not aware of its existence when we started),

	http://mozplugger.mozdev.org/

So if someone is curious and wants to try one or both...

Note, our code is at a very initial stage, though it is very
simple so i don't expect it will be hard to fix any bugs.

As for mozplugger (i.e. the pre-existing application that does
a similar thing), i have to say that it has some nice features
that I am really envious about :)
e.g. it can swallow generic X windows within the browser, which
is interesting because some apps do not have an option to
run in an externally-supplied window.

	cheers
	luigi
From koitsu at FreeBSD.org  Fri May 23 15:59:32 2008
From: koitsu at FreeBSD.org (Jeremy Chadwick)
Date: Fri May 23 15:59:38 2008
Subject: Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders
In-Reply-To: <200805231515.PAA10055@sopwith.solgatos.com>
References: <BAY113-W28235BF47DBDA5B351CDC4A1C10@phx.gbl>
	<200805231515.PAA10055@sopwith.solgatos.com>
Message-ID: <20080523153937.GA40374@eos.sc1.parodius.com>

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:15:53AM +0100, Dieter wrote:
> > I'm just curious here, but why PCI-X, why not PCI-EXpress ?
> > or is this obviously for development reasons.
> 
> According to the FAQ,
> 
> 	While most graphics cards now fit in PCI Express slots,
> 	PCI is more popular with users of FPGA kits. We have
> 	identified the parts necessary to support PCI Express,
> 	so if there is demand, we can build them.  In the mean
> 	time, we need to sell the PCI version OGD1 to bootstrap
> 	our efforts.
> 
> 	PCI-X is backward compatible with your 32-bit 33MHz PCI slots,
> 	and OGD1 has been tested with several PC motherboards. Note
> 	that some PC motherboards may position components so that they
> 	interfere with the "extended" part of the PCI card edge for
> 	some slots.  OGD1 is 6.875in long and 4.2in wide
> 	(17.46cm x 10.67cm).  Some small form-factor systems do not
> 	provide enough room in one or both dimensions.
> 
> There is a development advantage to PCI.  PCI is a bus, so it is easy
> to sniff the bus if things aren't working.  There has been some
> discussion about writing software to turn the OGD1 into a PCI bus
> sniffer, for developing other boards.
> 
> If you are interested in buying a PCIe version of OGD1, OGP needs to
> hear about it.

I think what people (not just here, but folks on Slashdot as well) want
to know is: is the PCI-X choice *purely* for development reasons, e.g.
will the retail/non-development version (read: transistor-based, no
FPGA) of the card be PCIe?

If the manufacturer plans on keeping everything PCI-X -- dev cards and
commercial/retail cards -- they are making a *huge* mistake.

-- 
| Jeremy Chadwick                                jdc at parodius.com |
| Parodius Networking                       http://www.parodius.com/ |
| UNIX Systems Administrator                  Mountain View, CA, USA |
| Making life hard for others since 1977.              PGP: 4BD6C0CB |

From freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com  Fri May 23 16:54:58 2008
From: freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com (Dieter)
Date: Fri May 23 16:55:03 2008
Subject: Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 23 May 2008 08:39:37 PDT."
	<20080523153937.GA40374@eos.sc1.parodius.com> 
Message-ID: <200805231652.QAA05864@sopwith.solgatos.com>

> I think what people (not just here, but folks on Slashdot as well) want
> to know is: is the PCI-X choice *purely* for development reasons, e.g.
> will the retail/non-development version (read: transistor-based, no
> FPGA) of the card be PCIe?
> 
> If the manufacturer plans on keeping everything PCI-X -- dev cards and
> commercial/retail cards -- they are making a *huge* mistake.

The plan, as I understand it, is:

	Develop GPU logic using OGD1 boards.

	Sell as many OGD1 boards as possible to raise money needed
	(estimated at US$2M) to fabricate ASIC.

	Probably do other FLOSS friendly hardware projects to
	raise money for ASIC.  (Ideas welcome)

	Build OGC boards with ASIC, no FPGA.

The ASICs are expected to sell in *much* larger quantities than the
FPGA boards.

I'm 99.9% sure that the ASIC based OGC boards will be available as
PCIe.  Possibly PCI or PCI-X and AGP as well, and the bare ASIC chips
will be available for embedded applications (PDAs, kiosks, etc.).

The big hurdle is raising the US$2M needed to fab the ASIC.
From gpalmer at freebsd.org  Fri May 23 17:11:25 2008
From: gpalmer at freebsd.org (Gary Palmer)
Date: Fri May 23 17:11:34 2008
Subject: Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders
In-Reply-To: <20080523153937.GA40374@eos.sc1.parodius.com>
References: <BAY113-W28235BF47DBDA5B351CDC4A1C10@phx.gbl>
	<200805231515.PAA10055@sopwith.solgatos.com>
	<20080523153937.GA40374@eos.sc1.parodius.com>
Message-ID: <20080523171124.GB1142@in-addr.com>

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:39:37AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:15:53AM +0100, Dieter wrote:
> > > I'm just curious here, but why PCI-X, why not PCI-EXpress ?
> > > or is this obviously for development reasons.
> > 
> > According to the FAQ,
> > 
> > 	While most graphics cards now fit in PCI Express slots,
> > 	PCI is more popular with users of FPGA kits. We have
> > 	identified the parts necessary to support PCI Express,
> > 	so if there is demand, we can build them.  In the mean
> > 	time, we need to sell the PCI version OGD1 to bootstrap
> > 	our efforts.
> > 
> > 	PCI-X is backward compatible with your 32-bit 33MHz PCI slots,
> > 	and OGD1 has been tested with several PC motherboards. Note
> > 	that some PC motherboards may position components so that they
> > 	interfere with the "extended" part of the PCI card edge for
> > 	some slots.  OGD1 is 6.875in long and 4.2in wide
> > 	(17.46cm x 10.67cm).  Some small form-factor systems do not
> > 	provide enough room in one or both dimensions.
> > 
> > There is a development advantage to PCI.  PCI is a bus, so it is easy
> > to sniff the bus if things aren't working.  There has been some
> > discussion about writing software to turn the OGD1 into a PCI bus
> > sniffer, for developing other boards.
> > 
> > If you are interested in buying a PCIe version of OGD1, OGP needs to
> > hear about it.
> 
> I think what people (not just here, but folks on Slashdot as well) want
> to know is: is the PCI-X choice *purely* for development reasons, e.g.
> will the retail/non-development version (read: transistor-based, no
> FPGA) of the card be PCIe?
> 
> If the manufacturer plans on keeping everything PCI-X -- dev cards and
> commercial/retail cards -- they are making a *huge* mistake.

This is answered on their website.  The reason they chose PCI-X was
that they can slap a PCIe to PCI-X bridge on it without having to
choose new FPGAs and respin the boards (which would delay things even
more)

http://wiki.opengraphics.org/tiki-index.php?page=OGPN20#PCIe

(amongst many others)

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awiki.opengraphics.org+pcie

Regards,

Gary

P.S. isn't this thread violating the crossposting rules?
From ahze at FreeBSD.org  Fri May 23 23:01:04 2008
From: ahze at FreeBSD.org (ahze@FreeBSD.org)
Date: Fri May 23 23:01:11 2008
Subject: ports/114573: multimedia/vlc-devel doesn't compile when the QT4
	option is selected
Message-ID: <200805232301.m4NN14s5086703@freefall.freebsd.org>

Synopsis: multimedia/vlc-devel doesn't compile when the QT4 option is selected

Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-multimedia->freebsd-ports-bugs 
Responsible-Changed-By: ahze
Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 23 23:00:27 UTC 2008
Responsible-Changed-Why: 
Turn over to freebsd-ports-bugs

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=114573
From ahze at FreeBSD.org  Fri May 23 23:01:47 2008
From: ahze at FreeBSD.org (ahze@FreeBSD.org)
Date: Fri May 23 23:01:49 2008
Subject: ports/117810: multimedia/vlc-devel port could be compiled with
	lua modules
Message-ID: <200805232301.m4NN1kk9086771@freefall.freebsd.org>

Synopsis: multimedia/vlc-devel port could be compiled with lua modules

Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-multimedia->freebsd-ports-bugs 
Responsible-Changed-By: ahze
Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 23 23:01:37 UTC 2008
Responsible-Changed-Why: 
Turn over to freebsd-ports-bugs

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=117810
From ahze at FreeBSD.org  Fri May 23 23:02:19 2008
From: ahze at FreeBSD.org (ahze@FreeBSD.org)
Date: Fri May 23 23:02:21 2008
Subject: ports/118104: [PATCH] multimedia/vlc - volume bar position
	almost inaccessible
Message-ID: <200805232302.m4NN2JSM086854@freefall.freebsd.org>

Synopsis: [PATCH] multimedia/vlc - volume bar position almost inaccessible

Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-multimedia->freebsd-ports-bugs 
Responsible-Changed-By: ahze
Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 23 23:02:05 UTC 2008
Responsible-Changed-Why: 
Turn over to freebsd-ports-bugs

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=118104
From ahze at FreeBSD.org  Fri May 23 23:03:14 2008
From: ahze at FreeBSD.org (ahze@FreeBSD.org)
Date: Fri May 23 23:03:16 2008
Subject: ports/117824: CONFIGURE_LINE truncated to 2048 chars in [at
	least] multimedia/vlc-devel
Message-ID: <200805232303.m4NN3DQj086941@freefall.freebsd.org>

Synopsis: CONFIGURE_LINE truncated to 2048 chars in [at least] multimedia/vlc-devel

Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-multimedia->freebsd-ports-bugs 
Responsible-Changed-By: ahze
Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 23 23:02:57 UTC 2008
Responsible-Changed-Why: 
Turn over to freebsd-ports-bugs

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=117824
From frtzkatz at yahoo.com  Fri May 23 23:53:08 2008
From: frtzkatz at yahoo.com (Fritz Katz)
Date: Fri May 23 23:53:12 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best?
Message-ID: <142121.24995.qm@web63013.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

--- Fritz Katz [Thu, 22 May 2008 13:31:07 -0700 (PDT)
]
> 
> Is there a TV-Tuner card (that works under
> FreeBSD!) which can tune to RF-input with any 
> of the world's TV standards?
> 
--------------------------------------------------
--- Dieter [ Thu, 22 May 2008 19:29:54 +0100 ] --- 

> NTSC, PAL, & SECAM aren't enough.  You need to add 
> the digital ATSC/8VSB and DVB-T/COFDM to your list.
>
> Some chips handle all 3 analog formats, but I don't 
> know of any demodulator chips that do both
> ATSC/8VSB and DVB-T/COFDM.

 Yes, digital formats are a must-have.  I'll add 
it to to the matrix. 

------------------------------------------------------
--- Aragon Gouveia [ Thu, 22 May 2008 23:48:58 +0200 ]
> Very happy with my Hauppauge PVR-350.  I have 
> the Euro version so running PAL.  It supposedly
> supports all the PAL and SECAM variants, altho 
> I've only used it with PAL signals.

I've heard good things about Hauppauge too. However 
there are two different models:

  model 00990: WinTV-PVR-350 with NTSC tuner
  model 00993: WinTV-PVR-350 with PAL/SECAM tuner

http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr350.html
------------------------------------------------------

--- Richard Bown [ Thu, 22 May 2008 22:39:15 +0100 ]
> If I could remember the exact spelling, but
> something like Hauppage produce a good selection 
> of PCI &,USBTV cards/sticks, the analogue 
> connexant drivers are fairly mature..

  They might be a little 'too mature'. I've 
  heard that Brooktree parts can no longer be
  obtained in large 
  quantities and are being phased out (can anyone
  else confirm?)  This maybe a concern for FreeBSD
  and Linux TV since so many cards depend 
  on the Brooktree (bktr) video capture driver.

  Conexant is the remnants of what was Brooktree.
  On 29 April 2008, Conexant's Broadband Media
  Processing unit, was acquired by NXP 
  Semiconductors (a Philips company).

------------------------------------------------------
--- Danny Pansters [ Fri, 23 May 2008 01:17:04 +0200 ]

> Can you try kbtv2 (http://freebsd.ricin.com/kbtv2)? 
> It likely gives the same result, because this 
> tuner is
> unknown to me but kbtv2 is what you should test 
> against (kbtv1 is not developed anymore). Try MK3
tuner.

  Hi Danny,

  I sent you a screen-shot of NTSC composite input to
  KBTV2 in a separate email. Looks great. No luck on 
  the tuner though.  I expect it'll take some work 
  to get it to work correctly.

------------------------------------------------------

My task is to put together a system that can ship
world-wide, be able to display any TV signal, and have
all the capabilites that FreeBSD can provide
(internet, graphics, games). Potential applications
are huge. For example, running JAVA the system could
be used to build a low-cost Cable (OCAP in the US or
DVB in Europe) or satellite (DirecTV, DISH, etc)
Set-top box.

We just need to find which of these manufacturers can
deliver a robust "Combo / Hybrid" tuner under FreeBSD:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_tuner#Manufacturers





      
From pfgshield-freebsd at yahoo.com  Sat May 24 01:05:29 2008
From: pfgshield-freebsd at yahoo.com (pfgshield-freebsd@yahoo.com)
Date: Sat May 24 01:05:34 2008
Subject: bktr device on amd64 (was Re: pvr-xxx on 7.0)
Message-ID: <473579.14355.qm@web32704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Danny Pansters is right, even when it isn't built by default the bktr driver
builds and (apparently) works on amd64:

Should I submit a PR?
______
kakumen# kldload bktr
kakumen# kldstat
Id Refs Address            Size     Name
 1    6 0xffffffff80100000 5f79f8   kernel
 2    1 0xffffffff806f8000 7120     if_tap.ko
 3    1 0xffffffff80700000 1a2c8    snd_hda.ko
 4    2 0xffffffff8071b000 34e48    sound.ko
 5    1 0xffffffffb505f000 f207     bktr.ko
 6    1 0xffffffffb506f000 6b0      bktr_mem.ko
kakumen# uname -a
FreeBSD kakumen.cable.net.co 6.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE #10: Sat Jan 19
01:13:55 COT 2008     root@kakumen.cable.net.co:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/SMP 
amd64

--- pfgshield-freebsd@yahoo.com ha scritto:

> FWIW;
> 
> It wouldn't help me since I have a USB PVR, but it would be nice if the
> brooktree driver worked on amd64.
> 
> cheers,
> 
>     Pedro.
> 
> 
>       ___________________________________ 
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> 


---
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     Mech. Eng.      Universidad Nacional de Colombia
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From conrads at cox.net  Sat May 24 02:38:44 2008
From: conrads at cox.net (Conrad J. Sabatier)
Date: Sat May 24 02:38:48 2008
Subject: 4Front's OSS: How to force softoss driver for MIDI?
Message-ID: <20080523212012.53e9194c@serene.no-ip.org>

I just sent a message through 4Front's support page, but thought I'd ask
here, too, in the meantime.

Been trying to get 4Front's OSS to use the softoss driver instead of the
default for my soundcard (es137x), but have been unable to find any
documentation.  Does anyone know how to configure /etc/oss.conf to do
this?

Thanks!

-- 
When we talk to God, it's prayer.  When God talks to us, it's
schizophrenia.
		-- Lily Tomlin, American actress
From itetcu at FreeBSD.org  Sat May 24 18:04:20 2008
From: itetcu at FreeBSD.org (Ion-Mihai Tetcu)
Date: Sat May 24 18:04:23 2008
Subject: audio/alac: bad plist
Message-ID: <20080524204436.27f73cee@it.buh.tecnik93.com>

Hi,

Bad plist (on 7-STABLE-amd64) with
export FORCE_PACKAGE=yes
export NOPORTDOCS=yes
export NOPORTEXAMPLES=yes
export NOPORTDATA=yes


=== Checking filesystem state
list of extra files and directories in / (not present before this port was installed but present after it was deinstalled)
10857909        4 drwxr-xr-x    2 root             wheel                 512 May 24 17:29 usr/local/share/doc/alac
10857910        4 -r--r--r--    1 root             wheel                1003 May 24 17:29 usr/local/share/doc/alac/README

-- 
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From yongjhen at gmail.com  Sun May 25 03:34:42 2008
From: yongjhen at gmail.com (Yong-Jhen Hong)
Date: Sun May 25 03:34:47 2008
Subject: Webcam and linux-gspca-kmod
In-Reply-To: <20080523085045.GB77439@onelab2.iet.unipi.it>
References: <48367933.8030600@gmail.com>
	<20080523085045.GB77439@onelab2.iet.unipi.it>
Message-ID: <4838DE48.3040106@gmail.com>

Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> 
> ok thanks for the patch, i will try to fix this in the next release.
> 

Thank you for this and your work on the emulation layer!

> 
> in order to test the driver, the best option is to use
> the 'pwcview' program in the linux-kmod-compat directory.


Unfortunately, pwcview yields the same error as Cheese:

<dmesg>
40406394 [1081] video_devdata: not complete but ok for now
spca5xx_set_light_freq: [spca5xx_set_light_freq:1920] Sensor currently
not support light frequency banding filters.
gspca_set_isoc_ep: [gspca_set_isoc_ep:936] ISO EndPoint found 0x82
AlternateSet 7
40406914 [ 876] usb_submit_urb: openpipe error 4
init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -440406914 [ 959] usb_kill_urb: not
complete but try something
40406914 [ 959] usb_kill_urb: not complete but try something
40406914 [ 959] usb_kill_urb: not complete but try something
40406914 [ 959] usb_kill_urb: not complete but try something
spca5xx_open: [spca5xx_open:1987]  DEALLOC error on init_Isoc

</dmesg>


> 
> Re. other applications, one thing to remember is that the freebsd
> port of gspca does not support mmap, which seems to be the preferred
> access method for Linux apps.  So you need to rewrite a small piece
> of the client using read() to a locally allocated buffer to access
> the video.
> 
> A patch of this kind for linphone is at
> 
> 	http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/patch-msv4l.c
> 
> see if you can do something similar with your program.
> 
> 	cheers
> 	luigi

Thanks, I will try the patch and the idea later.


Cheers,
yongjhen
From itetcu at FreeBSD.org  Mon May 26 07:15:11 2008
From: itetcu at FreeBSD.org (Ion-Mihai Tetcu)
Date: Mon May 26 07:15:15 2008
Subject: audio/denemo: bad plist
Message-ID: <20080526101450.2c2513d2@it.buh.tecnik93.com>

Hi,


Bad plist (on 7-STABLE-amd64) with
export FORCE_PACKAGE=yes
export NOPORTDOCS=yes
export NOPORTEXAMPLES=yes
export NOPORTDATA=yes

===>  Building package for denemo-0.7.6_1
Creating package /tmp/packages/All/denemo-0.7.6_1.tbz
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list of extra files and directories in / (not present before this port was installed but present after it was deinstalled)
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From bugmaster at FreeBSD.org  Mon May 26 11:06:52 2008
From: bugmaster at FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD bugmaster)
Date: Mon May 26 11:07:30 2008
Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID: <200805261106.m4QB6pdr064964@freefall.freebsd.org>

Current FreeBSD problem reports
Critical problems
Serious problems

S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/63204   multimedia [sound] /dev/mixer broken with ESS Maestro-2E (still o
o kern/79905   multimedia [sound] sis7018 sound module problem
o kern/79912   multimedia [sound] sound broken for 2 VIA chipsets: interrupt sto
o kern/81146   multimedia [sound] Sound isn't working AT ALL for Sis7012 onboard
o kern/82043   multimedia [sound] snd_emu10k1 - mixer does not work.
o kern/94279   multimedia [snd_neomagic] snd_neomagic crashes on FreeBSD 5.4 and
o kern/96538   multimedia [sound] emu10k1-driver inverts channels
o kern/97535   multimedia [snd_mss] doesn't work in 6.0-RELEASE and above for Cr
o kern/98167   multimedia [sound] [es137x] [patch] ES1370 mixer volumes incorrec
o kern/98752   multimedia [sound] Intel ich6 82801 FB - on Packard Bell A8810 la
o kern/104626  multimedia [sound] FreeBSD 6.2 does not support SoundBlaster Audi
o kern/104874  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] kldload snd_emu10k1 hangs system
o kern/107051  multimedia [sound] only 2 channels output works for the ALC850 (o
o kern/107516  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] - skips, clicks and lag after a day of h
o kern/114760  multimedia [snd_cmi] snd_cmi driver causing sporadic system hangs
o kern/115666  multimedia [sound] Microphone does not work
o kern/119181  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda needs doesn't recognise headphones o
o kern/119759  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] Can not record anything with emu10k1 on 
o kern/120144  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda plays sound on all outputs
o kern/121156  multimedia [sound]: [PATCH] Turn on inverted external amplifier s
o kern/122086  multimedia [sound] maestro sound driver is working, but mixer ini
o ports/122305 multimedia multimedia/gstreame - gst-inspect-0.10 hangs when chec
o ports/123327 multimedia Port fix: graphics/libcaca - CONFIGURE_ENV incorrectly

23 problems total.

Non-critical problems

S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/23546   multimedia [snd_csa] [patch] csa DMA-interrupt problem
o kern/37600   multimedia [sound] [partial patch] t4dwave drive doesn't record.
s kern/60599   multimedia [bktr] [partial patch] No sound for ATI TV Wonder (ste
o kern/60677   multimedia [sound] [patch] No reaction of volume controy key on I
o kern/72995   multimedia [sound] Intel ICH2 (82801BA) - sound nearly inaudible
o kern/79678   multimedia [sound] sound works except recording from any source
o kern/80632   multimedia [sound] pcm driver missing support for CMI8738 auxilla
s kern/83697   multimedia [snd_mss] [patch] support, docs added for full-duplex,
o kern/87782   multimedia [sound] snd_t4dwave and pcm0:record:0: record interrup
o kern/92512   multimedia [sound] distorted mono output with emu10k1
o kern/93986   multimedia [sound] Acer TravelMate 4652LMi pcm0 channel dead
o kern/95086   multimedia [sound] uaudio line in problem with sbdm lx
o kern/97609   multimedia [sound] Load Sound Module - VIA8233 - fails
o kern/98496   multimedia [snd_ich] some functions don't work in my sound kernel
o kern/98504   multimedia [sound] Sound is distorted with SB Live 5.1
o kern/100859  multimedia [snd_ich] snd_ich broken on GIGABYTE 915 system
o kern/101417  multimedia [sound] 4-speakers output not possible on Asus A8V-Del
o kern/111767  multimedia [sound] ATI SB450 High Definition Audio Controller sou
s kern/113950  multimedia [sound] [patch] [request] add per-vchan mixer support
o kern/115300  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda(4) fails to attach on -CURRENT [regr
o kern/117599  multimedia [sound] Audio routing problem NVIDIA MCP51 HDA
o kern/117729  multimedia [snd_hda] microphone is not working with snd_hda on Fr
o ports/118168 multimedia [patch] multimedia/transcode - Add WITHOUT_X11 and WIT
o ports/118237 multimedia Ports: multimedia/ffmpeg fix configure option and add 
o ports/118289 multimedia port of multimedia/tovid only semi works on 6.2 Releas
o kern/119671  multimedia [snd_hda] line is mic and mic is line on Fujitsu Sieme
o kern/119931  multimedia [sound] No sound card detected on ASUS "K8V-X SE R2.00
o kern/119973  multimedia [snd_maestro] snd_maestro only works after reload [reg
o kern/120780  multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda doesn't work on Dell Latitutude D530
o kern/120857  multimedia [snd_emu10k1] snd_emu10k1 driver issues a warning on u
o ports/121662 multimedia graphics/libcaca - not bumped after imlib2 upgrade
o ports/122899 multimedia [PATCH] audio/liba52: powerpc build requires -fPIC
o ports/122922 multimedia [ patch ] multimedia/ffmpeg text output is mangled
o ports/122967 multimedia Port fix: multimedia/y4mscaler - Define missing symbol
o ports/122984 multimedia Port fix: multimedia/dirac-reference - Fix pkg-plist
o ports/123409 multimedia [Patch] ports:multimedia/ffmpeg fix WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFL
o ports/123684 multimedia [PATCH] audio/nas: update to 1.9.1

37 problems total.

From tevans.uk at googlemail.com  Tue May 27 09:21:12 2008
From: tevans.uk at googlemail.com (Tom Evans)
Date: Tue May 27 09:21:16 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best?
In-Reply-To: <142121.24995.qm@web63013.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <142121.24995.qm@web63013.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1211880067.10665.36.camel@localhost>


On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 16:53 -0700, Fritz Katz wrote:
> --- Fritz Katz [Thu, 22 May 2008 13:31:07 -0700 (PDT)
..
> My task is to put together a system that can ship
> world-wide, be able to display any TV signal, and have
> all the capabilites that FreeBSD can provide
> (internet, graphics, games). Potential applications
> are huge. For example, running JAVA the system could
> be used to build a low-cost Cable (OCAP in the US or
> DVB in Europe) or satellite (DirecTV, DISH, etc)
> Set-top box.
> 
> We just need to find which of these manufacturers can
> deliver a robust "Combo / Hybrid" tuner under FreeBSD:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_tuner#Manufacturers
> 

I doubt you will find a 'one size fits all' box. Just in the UK, you can
receive DVB-T, DVB-S, DVB-S2, DVB-C and (coming soon!) DVB-C2.
DVB-{T,S,S2} can also be used for 'pay TV' using a CAM. I know of one
card (without even Linux drivers) that does DVB-C and DVB-S. The only
DVB-S2 cards I know only support DVB-S/S2. There are some DVB-T cards
that support either DVB-C or DVB-S, but none that support DVB-S2.

Hi-def in the UK is available over DVB-S and DVB-S2 (and presumably over
DVB-C as well, unsure), and is usually very high bitrate MPEG 4 AVC
MBAFF, which is EXTREMELY hard to decode in real time for a general
purpose computer. This either means you need a very fast (expensive)
computer, or you don't have hi-def support. This makes it very
unappealing - cheap and crap or expensive and not-quite-so-crap.

For the US market, it is much easier (I believe), as most of their HD
content is delivered as MPEG-2, which is much easier to decode.

Tom
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From freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com  Tue May 27 15:50:57 2008
From: freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com (Dieter)
Date: Tue May 27 15:51:03 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best? 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 27 May 2008 10:21:07 BST."
	<1211880067.10665.36.camel@localhost> 
Message-ID: <200805271548.PAA00704@sopwith.solgatos.com>

> Hi-def in the UK is available over DVB-S and DVB-S2 (and presumably over
> DVB-C as well, unsure), and is usually very high bitrate MPEG 4 AVC
> MBAFF, which is EXTREMELY hard to decode in real time for a general
> purpose computer. This either means you need a very fast (expensive)
> computer, or you don't have hi-def support. This makes it very
> unappealing - cheap and crap or expensive and not-quite-so-crap.

Do you have a number for this "very high bitrate MPEG 4" ?

> For the US market, it is much easier (I believe), as most of their HD
> content is delivered as MPEG-2, which is much easier to decode.

US OTA is MPEG 2.  Max bitrate is approx 19.3 Mbps.
I've read that some cable and sat is converting to MPEG 4.
I don't have bitrate numbers for those.

Some content is only available in HD.  If you can't decode HD in
real time you have to record it, transcode it down to SD, then watch
the SD.  Not a great solution.  Word is that scaling is expensive,
so a display that is at least 1920x1080 would be helpful in reducing
CPU requirements.

You can get decoder chips, for example:

  Broadcom BCM70010 and BCM70012 claim to decode HD.
  Mpeg2 up to 125 Mbps, H.264 up to 40 Mbps.

  Available as chips, or on PCIe, PCIe mini, and ExpressCard 34 cards.

  Under $40.

  Product brief:
  http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/70010_70012-PB00.pdf

  A BSD device driver would need to be written.  And you need
  a free slot.  (Free slot?  What's that?)

ATI has documented some of their graphics chips.  The penguins
have them offloading some of the video decode work.  Is anyone
working on getting this working with BSD?

The 780G is supposed to be able to decode HD H.264, but I don't know
if they've documented that chip or not.
From danny at ricin.com  Tue May 27 22:34:39 2008
From: danny at ricin.com (Danny Pansters)
Date: Tue May 27 22:34:44 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best?
In-Reply-To: <142121.24995.qm@web63013.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <142121.24995.qm@web63013.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200805280034.34063.danny@ricin.com>

On Saturday 24 May 2008 01:53:07 Fritz Katz wrote:
> My task is to put together a system that can ship
> world-wide, be able to display any TV signal, and have
> all the capabilites that FreeBSD can provide
> (internet, graphics, games). Potential applications
> are huge. For example, running JAVA the system could
> be used to build a low-cost Cable (OCAP in the US or
> DVB in Europe) or satellite (DirecTV, DISH, etc)
> Set-top box.

I don't think there are any "can" tuner solutions that do both 
pal/secam and ntsc, and for any digital TV you pretty much have
to turn to silicon tuners I think. I also think that is where you
can find solutions that can do both traditional pal/secam and ntsc
and maybe also both dvb-* and *tsc.

Video decoder-wise there are many solutions that can do all three standards.

Microtune and others make chips for several of these and QAM-geared
and even for mechanical systems purposes (factory/lab/servo equipment)
but no everything-in-one AFAIK. It's possible that everything-in-one just
can't be done technically or economically, but the fact that they can be 
designed/manufactured almost equivalent and still have such a broad area of 
application clearly show their merit. Not to mention that they're already 
being used all over the place in, well, TVs for example. Other chipmakers
are xceive, fujitsu, TI (they also make a prominent video decoder chip TVP for 
which there are extensive datasheets on the net), probably also 
philips/LG, ... [google]

( AFAIU it's a double (serial) PLL system so that the dividers/multipliers
can effectively both be set rather than merely a few fixed combinations  -- 
anybody more "skilled in the art" as the patent language goes, feel free to 
comment )

I'm only relaying from my own research and I have no ties anywhere in this 
industry, but I think you're going to need to have a significant budget and 
talk to -- for example -- TI and fujitsu if you want some universal card/USB 
stick to be put together. You'd also need drivers :)

Hauppauge's stuff (or elgato) might be already extensive enough for the multi 
support you want. But there too, you'd also need drivers :)

HTH,

Dan
From danny at ricin.com  Tue May 27 22:40:29 2008
From: danny at ricin.com (Danny Pansters)
Date: Tue May 27 22:40:33 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best?
In-Reply-To: <200805280034.34063.danny@ricin.com>
References: <142121.24995.qm@web63013.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<200805280034.34063.danny@ricin.com>
Message-ID: <200805280040.24038.danny@ricin.com>

On Wednesday 28 May 2008 00:34:33 Danny Pansters wrote:
> On Saturday 24 May 2008 01:53:07 Fritz Katz wrote:
> > My task is to put together a system that can ship
> > world-wide, be able to display any TV signal, and have
> > all the capabilites that FreeBSD can provide
> > (internet, graphics, games). Potential applications
> > are huge. For example, running JAVA the system could
> > be used to build a low-cost Cable (OCAP in the US or
> > DVB in Europe) or satellite (DirecTV, DISH, etc)
> > Set-top box.
>
> I don't think there are any "can" tuner solutions that do both
> pal/secam and ntsc, and for any digital TV you pretty much have
> to turn to silicon tuners I think. I also think that is where you
> can find solutions that can do both traditional pal/secam and ntsc
> and maybe also both dvb-* and *tsc.
>
> Video decoder-wise there are many solutions that can do all three
> standards.

Sorry bad editing: the next is about tuner chips, not the av decoding chips in 
the former sentence.

> Microtune and others make chips for several of these and QAM-geared
> and even for mechanical systems purposes (factory/lab/servo equipment)
> but no everything-in-one AFAIK. It's possible that everything-in-one just
> can't be done technically or economically, but the fact that they can be
> designed/manufactured almost equivalent and still have such a broad area of
> application clearly show their merit. Not to mention that they're already
> being used all over the place in, well, TVs for example. Other chipmakers
> are xceive, fujitsu, TI (they also make a prominent video decoder chip TVP
> for which there are extensive datasheets on the net), probably also
> philips/LG, ... [google]
>
> ( AFAIU it's a double (serial) PLL system so that the dividers/multipliers
> can effectively both be set rather than merely a few fixed combinations  --
> anybody more "skilled in the art" as the patent language goes, feel free to
> comment )
>
> I'm only relaying from my own research and I have no ties anywhere in this
> industry, but I think you're going to need to have a significant budget and
> talk to -- for example -- TI and fujitsu if you want some universal
> card/USB stick to be put together. You'd also need drivers :)
>
> Hauppauge's stuff (or elgato) might be already extensive enough for the
> multi support you want. But there too, you'd also need drivers :)
>
> HTH,
>
> Dan
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> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia
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From tevans.uk at googlemail.com  Wed May 28 08:38:03 2008
From: tevans.uk at googlemail.com (Tom Evans)
Date: Wed May 28 08:38:08 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best?
In-Reply-To: <200805271548.PAA00704@sopwith.solgatos.com>
References: <200805271548.PAA00704@sopwith.solgatos.com>
Message-ID: <1211963877.10665.48.camel@localhost>


On Tue, 2008-05-27 at 08:48 +0100, Dieter wrote:
> > Hi-def in the UK is available over DVB-S and DVB-S2 (and presumably over
> > DVB-C as well, unsure), and is usually very high bitrate MPEG 4 AVC
> > MBAFF, which is EXTREMELY hard to decode in real time for a general
> > purpose computer. This either means you need a very fast (expensive)
> > computer, or you don't have hi-def support. This makes it very
> > unappealing - cheap and crap or expensive and not-quite-so-crap.
> 
> Do you have a number for this "very high bitrate MPEG 4" ?

16-20 Mbps MPEG 4 AVC MBAFF [1]

I can't find an explicit reference to the bitrate - iirc it is in the
ballpark of 20 Mbps. Here is a reference to the difficulties of decoding
it [2] under linux and windows.

> 
> > For the US market, it is much easier (I believe), as most of their HD
> > content is delivered as MPEG-2, which is much easier to decode.
> 
> US OTA is MPEG 2.  Max bitrate is approx 19.3 Mbps.
> I've read that some cable and sat is converting to MPEG 4.
> I don't have bitrate numbers for those.
> 
> Some content is only available in HD.  If you can't decode HD in
> real time you have to record it, transcode it down to SD, then watch
> the SD.  Not a great solution.  Word is that scaling is expensive,
> so a display that is at least 1920x1080 would be helpful in reducing
> CPU requirements.
> 
> You can get decoder chips, for example:
> 
>   Broadcom BCM70010 and BCM70012 claim to decode HD.
>   Mpeg2 up to 125 Mbps, H.264 up to 40 Mbps.
> 
>   Available as chips, or on PCIe, PCIe mini, and ExpressCard 34 cards.
> 
>   Under $40.
> 
>   Product brief:
>   http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/70010_70012-PB00.pdf
> 
>   A BSD device driver would need to be written.  And you need
>   a free slot.  (Free slot?  What's that?)

That sounds freakin awesome. Wonder if they can handle MBAFF encoding.

> 
> ATI has documented some of their graphics chips.  The penguins
> have them offloading some of the video decode work.  Is anyone
> working on getting this working with BSD?
> 
> The 780G is supposed to be able to decode HD H.264, but I don't know
> if they've documented that chip or not.

All Nvidia chips from 6600 (ish) up can accelerate H264, and all Ati
with 'avivo' (1xxx series) can also do it. The problem is, they can only
accelerate within windows. Theres no open API that would allow apps +
drivers to accelerate video decoding. There is a started project at
freedesktop working on video acceleration apis [3], but it isn't exactly
making stellar progress :)

Cheers

Tom

[1] http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/uk_satellite_bit_rates.php
[2]
http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2006-November/156604.html
[3] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/vaapi

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From freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com  Wed May 28 16:18:24 2008
From: freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com (Dieter)
Date: Wed May 28 16:18:28 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best? 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 28 May 2008 09:37:57 BST."
	<1211963877.10665.48.camel@localhost> 
Message-ID: <200805281615.QAA16740@sopwith.solgatos.com>

> > You can get decoder chips, for example:
> >=20
> >   Broadcom BCM70010 and BCM70012 claim to decode HD.
> >   Mpeg2 up to 125 Mbps, H.264 up to 40 Mbps.
> >=20
> >   Available as chips, or on PCIe, PCIe mini, and ExpressCard 34 cards.
> >=20
> >   Under $40.
> >=20
> >   Product brief:
> >   http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/70010_70012-PB00.pdf
> >=20
> >   A BSD device driver would need to be written.  And you need
> >   a free slot.  (Free slot?  What's that?)
> 
> That sounds freakin awesome. Wonder if they can handle MBAFF encoding.

I don't know.  We need a data sheet for the chip.

That is one problem with decoder chips, they may not work with new codecs.
Some of them are said to not work well with freeze frame, slow/fast motion,
reverse, etc, anything but normal forward 1x play.

Another method is a DSP chip.  Less expensive and less power/heat than
a CPU.  And you can program it to handle new codecs.  The problem is
finding one that is fast enough.

> > ATI has documented some of their graphics chips.  The penguins
> > have them offloading some of the video decode work.  Is anyone
> > working on getting this working with BSD?
> >=20
> > The 780G is supposed to be able to decode HD H.264, but I don't know
> > if they've documented that chip or not.
> 
> All Nvidia chips from 6600 (ish) up can accelerate H264, and all Ati
> with 'avivo' (1xxx series) can also do it. The problem is, they can only
> accelerate within windows. Theres no open API that would allow apps +
> drivers to accelerate video decoding. There is a started project at
> freedesktop working on video acceleration apis [3], but it isn't exactly
> making stellar progress :)

I was thinking Xv and XvMC.   IIUC the penguins have at least Xv working
with some ATI chips.
From stapleton.41 at gmail.com  Thu May 29 11:02:48 2008
From: stapleton.41 at gmail.com (Jim Stapleton)
Date: Thu May 29 11:02:52 2008
Subject: pvrxxx recording
Message-ID: <80f4f2b20805290402w84c3f4k3f302385396b6b1c@mail.gmail.com>

OK, I got my pvrxxx problems fixed (I apparantly had my ffmpeg line wrong).

I'm having trouble getting a decent recording though. The uncompressed
stream is too large for comfort.
I've tried:
$ cat /dev/cxm0 | ffmpeg -i - -vcodec $v -acoded $a -f $f out.mpeg
$ ffmpeg -i /dev/cxm0 -vcodec $v -acoded $a -f $f out.mpeg

for various values of $a/$v/$f. So far I can can get
mpeg2video/mp2/mpeg, wmv1/wmav1/avi, and wmv2/wmav2/avi to work.
However, this formats end up being really pixelated.
libtheora/vorbis/ogg wouldn't play in anything (I know ffplay wouldn't get it)
I think I got one of the mpeg4 options working, but likewise, it
looked like blocky crap whenever there was any motion. Any
suggestions? If the video format is fairly low loss, I think I'd be
fine using 360x240 (1/2x1/2 max), otherwise, I'd like to use something
closer to full resolution.

Note: 'cat /dev/cxm0 > out.mpeg' works fine, and looks great - it's
just huge (3-4GB/hr).

Does anyone know of a format that should work well? The computer is a
Optron 185 (dual core, 2.4Ghz), with 3GB memory, and a 7200RPM hard
drive.

At the end, I have the formats that my install of FFMPEG recognizes
with both encode/decode.

Thanks,
-Jim Stapleton


[sjss@elrond ~]$ ffmpeg -version
FFmpeg version SVN-r10657, Copyright (c) 2000-2007 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
  configuration: --cc=cc --prefix=/usr/local --make=gmake
--disable-debug --enable-memalign-hack --enable-shared --enable-pp
--extra-cflags=-I/usr/local/include/vorbis -I/usr/local/include
--extra-ldflags=-L/usr/local/lib -la52 --extra-libs=-pthread
--enable-gpl --enable-pthreads --mandir=/usr/local/man --enable-liba52
--enable-liba52bin --enable-libfaac --enable-libfaad
--enable-libfaadbin --disable-libamr-nb --disable-libamr-wb
--disable-mmx --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libogg
--disable-swscaler --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis
--enable-libx264 --enable-freetype2 --enable-imlib2 --enable-vhook
--enable-libxvid
  libavutil version: 49.5.0
  libavcodec version: 51.44.0
  libavformat version: 51.14.0
  built on May 26 2008 13:28:06, gcc: 4.2.1 20070719  [FreeBSD]
FFmpeg SVN-r10657
libavutil   3212544
libavcodec  3353600
libavformat 3345920
[sjss@elrond ~]$ ffmpeg -formats | grep ' DE '
 DE RoQ             Id RoQ format
 DE ac3             raw ac3
 DE aiff            Audio IFF
 DE alaw            pcm A law format
 DE amr             3gpp amr file format
 DE asf             asf format
 DE au              SUN AU Format
 DE avi             avi format
 DE dv              DV video format
 DE ffm             ffm format
 DE flac            raw flac
 DE flv             flv format
 DE gif             GIF Animation
 DE gxf             GXF format
 DE h261            raw h261
 DE h263            raw h263
 DE h264            raw H264 video format
 DE image2          image2 sequence
 DE image2pipe      piped image2 sequence
 DE m4v             raw MPEG4 video format
 DE matroska        Matroska File Format
 DE mjpeg           MJPEG video
 DE mmf             mmf format
 DE mp3             MPEG audio layer 3
 DE mpeg            MPEG1 System format
 DE mpegts          MPEG2 transport stream format
 DE mulaw           pcm mu law format
 DE nut             nut format
 DE ogg             Ogg format
 DE oss             audio grab and output
 DE rawvideo        raw video format
 DE rm              rm format
 DE s16be           pcm signed 16 bit big endian format
 DE s16le           pcm signed 16 bit little endian format
 DE s8              pcm signed 8 bit format
 DE swf             Flash format
 DE u16be           pcm unsigned 16 bit big endian format
 DE u16le           pcm unsigned 16 bit little endian format
 DE u8              pcm unsigned 8 bit format
 DE voc             Creative Voice File format
 DE wav             wav format
 DE yuv4mpegpipe    YUV4MPEG pipe format
[sjss@elrond ~]$ ffmpeg -formats | grep -e 'DE[AV]'
 DEA    adpcm_4xm
 DEA    adpcm_adx
 DEA    adpcm_ct
 DEA    adpcm_ea
 DEA    adpcm_ima_dk3
 DEA    adpcm_ima_dk4
 DEA    adpcm_ima_qt
 DEA    adpcm_ima_smjpeg
 DEA    adpcm_ima_wav
 DEA    adpcm_ima_ws
 DEA    adpcm_ms
 DEA    adpcm_sbpro_2
 DEA    adpcm_sbpro_3
 DEA    adpcm_sbpro_4
 DEA    adpcm_swf
 DEA    adpcm_xa
 DEA    adpcm_yamaha
 DEV D  asv1
 DEV D  asv2
 DEV    bmp
 DEV D  dvvideo
 DEV D  ffv1
 DEVSD  ffvhuff
 DEA    flac
 DEV D  flashsv
 DEVSD  flv
 DEA    g726
 DEV    gif
 DEV D  h261
 DEVSDT h263
 DEVSD  huffyuv
 DEV D  jpegls
 DEA    libgsm
 DEA    libgsm_ms
 DEV D  mjpeg
 DEA    mp2
 DEVSDT mpeg1video
 DEVSDT mpeg2video
 DEVSDT mpeg4
 DEVSD  msmpeg4
 DEVSD  msmpeg4v1
 DEVSD  msmpeg4v2
 DEV    pam
 DEV    pbm
 DEA    pcm_alaw
 DEA    pcm_mulaw
 DEA    pcm_s16be
 DEA    pcm_s16le
 DEA    pcm_s24be
 DEA    pcm_s24daud
 DEA    pcm_s24le
 DEA    pcm_s32be
 DEA    pcm_s32le
 DEA    pcm_s8
 DEA    pcm_u16be
 DEA    pcm_u16le
 DEA    pcm_u24be
 DEA    pcm_u24le
 DEA    pcm_u32be
 DEA    pcm_u32le
 DEA    pcm_u8
 DEA    pcm_zork
 DEV    pgm
 DEV    pgmyuv
 DEV    png
 DEV    ppm
 DEV D  qtrle
 DEV    rawvideo
 DEA    roq_dpcm
 DEV D  roqvideo
 DEV D  rv10
 DEV D  rv20
 DEV    sgi
 DEV    snow
 DEA    sonic
 DEV D  svq1
 DEV    targa
 DEV    tiff
 DEA    vorbis
 DEA    wmav1
 DEA    wmav2
 DEVSD  wmv1
 DEVSD  wmv2
 DEV D  zlib
 DEV    zmbv
From tevans.uk at googlemail.com  Thu May 29 13:38:50 2008
From: tevans.uk at googlemail.com (Tom Evans)
Date: Thu May 29 13:38:56 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best?
In-Reply-To: <200805281615.QAA16740@sopwith.solgatos.com>
References: <200805281615.QAA16740@sopwith.solgatos.com>
Message-ID: <1212068324.10665.59.camel@localhost>


On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 09:15 +0100, Dieter wrote:
> > > You can get decoder chips, for example:
> > >=20
> > >   Broadcom BCM70010 and BCM70012 claim to decode HD.
> > >   Mpeg2 up to 125 Mbps, H.264 up to 40 Mbps.
> > >=20
> > >   Available as chips, or on PCIe, PCIe mini, and ExpressCard 34 cards.
> > >=20
> > >   Under $40.
> > >=20
> > >   Product brief:
> > >   http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/70010_70012-PB00.pdf
> > >=20
> > >   A BSD device driver would need to be written.  And you need
> > >   a free slot.  (Free slot?  What's that?)
> > 
> > That sounds freakin awesome. Wonder if they can handle MBAFF encoding.
> 
> I don't know.  We need a data sheet for the chip.
> 
> That is one problem with decoder chips, they may not work with new codecs.
> Some of them are said to not work well with freeze frame, slow/fast motion,
> reverse, etc, anything but normal forward 1x play.
> 
> Another method is a DSP chip.  Less expensive and less power/heat than
> a CPU.  And you can program it to handle new codecs.  The problem is
> finding one that is fast enough.
> 
> > > ATI has documented some of their graphics chips.  The penguins
> > > have them offloading some of the video decode work.  Is anyone
> > > working on getting this working with BSD?
> > >=20
> > > The 780G is supposed to be able to decode HD H.264, but I don't know
> > > if they've documented that chip or not.
> > 
> > All Nvidia chips from 6600 (ish) up can accelerate H264, and all Ati
> > with 'avivo' (1xxx series) can also do it. The problem is, they can only
> > accelerate within windows. Theres no open API that would allow apps +
> > drivers to accelerate video decoding. There is a started project at
> > freedesktop working on video acceleration apis [3], but it isn't exactly
> > making stellar progress :)
> 
> I was thinking Xv and XvMC.   IIUC the penguins have at least Xv working
> with some ATI chips.

Xv and Xvideo work well with both the beasty and the penguin, at least
for intel, nvidia (closed source). Xv/Xvideo are good for displaying
video (its a good overlay api), not so good for accelerating codecs.
XvMC works on nvidia, intel and via unichrome - I expect the new open
source ati drivers will support it as well, sooner rather than later,
but that does no good for anything other than MPEG-2, and from what I've
read, is virtually no use for H264. 

My best results for H264 come using the 'gl2 (multiple texture)' driver
in mplayer, as opposed to rather than xv or xvmc. XvMC reduces CPU usage
when viewing MPEG-2 content, but I only have access to 480i/p MPEG-2
(standard def DVB-T transmissions and DVDs), so the net effect is
reducing CPU usage from 10% to 5%. If you are fortunate enough though to
get HD content in MPEG-2 format, XvMC is the meal-ticket. According to
the myth wiki[1], even crappy CPUs/platforms can handle 1080i MPEG-2
content with XvMC.

I'm picking up a DVB-S card for my mythtv linux box this weekend, I'll
grab some sample HD content to examine..

Cheers

Tom

[1] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC
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From freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com  Thu May 29 16:32:22 2008
From: freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com (Dieter)
Date: Thu May 29 16:32:28 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best? 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 29 May 2008 14:38:44 BST."
	<1212068324.10665.59.camel@localhost> 
Message-ID: <200805291630.QAA02675@sopwith.solgatos.com>

> > I was thinking Xv and XvMC.   IIUC the penguins have at least Xv working
> > with some ATI chips.
> 
> Xv and Xvideo work well with both the beasty and the penguin, at least
> for intel, nvidia (closed source). Xv/Xvideo are good for displaying
> video (its a good overlay api), not so good for accelerating codecs.

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_video_extension
Xv does scaling and color space conversions in hardware.  Doesn't
help with codec decoding.  On the other hand, it should work with
any codec.

> XvMC works on nvidia, intel and via unichrome - I expect the new open
> source ati drivers will support it as well, sooner rather than later,
> but that does no good for anything other than MPEG-2, and from what I've
> read, is virtually no use for H264.=20

A lot of material is in mpeg2.  All US OTA DTV is mpeg2.  IIRC most DVDs
and some HD-DVD & Blu-Ray are mpeg2.  IIRC most cable and sat are mpeg2
though that may change over time.

> If you are fortunate enough though to
> get HD content in MPEG-2 format, XvMC is the meal-ticket.

I hope you are right about open source ATI drivers supporting
XvMC soon.  The sooner the better.  In a few months our
analog broadcasts go dark, so TVs and VCRs stop working.
They are selling converter boxes, but everything I've read about
them indicates that they are wintel quality crap that crash.  :-(
Most don't have s-video out.  And they don't timeshift.  The best
solution seems to be building a BSD DVR.  Recording DTV takes very
little CPU (disk space is another matter) but decoding takes a lot.
From rick-freebsd at kiwi-computer.com  Thu May 29 17:35:40 2008
From: rick-freebsd at kiwi-computer.com (Rick C. Petty)
Date: Thu May 29 17:35:43 2008
Subject: pvrxxx recording
In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20805290402w84c3f4k3f302385396b6b1c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <80f4f2b20805290402w84c3f4k3f302385396b6b1c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080529170858.GA70632@keira.kiwi-computer.com>

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:02:48AM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote:
> OK, I got my pvrxxx problems fixed (I apparantly had my ffmpeg line wrong).
> 
> I'm having trouble getting a decent recording though. The uncompressed
> stream is too large for comfort.

Uncompressed, it should be.

> $ cat /dev/cxm0 | ffmpeg -i - -vcodec $v -acoded $a -f $f out.mpeg
> $ ffmpeg -i /dev/cxm0 -vcodec $v -acoded $a -f $f out.mpeg

So you're fine with a multi-step process?  BTW, you might get better
performance if your first command is:

	ffmpeg -i /dev/cxm0 -vcodec $v ...

> Note: 'cat /dev/cxm0 > out.mpeg' works fine, and looks great - it's
> just huge (3-4GB/hr).

That's not that huge.

> Does anyone know of a format that should work well? The computer is a
> Optron 185 (dual core, 2.4Ghz), with 3GB memory, and a 7200RPM hard
> drive.

Your computer is too slow to do a live decode/encode of an MPEG2 stream.
Since you don't mind a multi-step process, why don't you record at the
standard bitrate and do a post-process step?  That's what I do.  I actually
have my own cxm_record program which calls the setchannel command and then
performs a cat(1) equivalent.  After the recording is finished, I use
multimedia/avidemux to select cut/edit points and a custom script to
convert the avidemux project to a multimedia/dvbcut project.  I've found
dvbcut does a better job of cutting the MPEG2 streams and does a minimum
recoding process (only at the edit points).  From there I run a custom
script to furthur compress the MPEG2 stream and turn it into a DVD VOB.
This script may be of interest to you and your issue, so I'll describe it
here.

I demultiplex the audio & video streams separately using multimedxa/mpgtx:

mpgdemux -b $TMP_PREFIX $OUTPUT_FROM_DVBCUT

Then, in parallel, I convert & compress the audio and video streams.  For
the audio, I make a named pipe and decode using audio/lame:

mkfifo $TMP_PREFIX.wav
lame --decode $TMP_PREFIX.mp2 $TMP_PREFIX.wav

then encode into AC3 using multimedia/ffmpeg:

ffmpeg -i $TMP_PREFIX.wav -y -vn -ab 192000 -acodec ac3 -ar 48000 -ac 2 \
	$TMP_PREFIX.ac3

For the video, I requantize the video by a factor of 3:2 using
multimedia/transcode:

tcrequant -f 1.5 < $TMP_PREFIX-0.m2v > $TMP_PREFIX-1.m2v

After both are finished, I multiplex the streams together into a
dvdauthor-ready VOB using multimedia/mjpegtools:

mplex -v 0 -V -M -f 8 -o $OUTPUT.vob $TMP_PREFIX.ac3 $TMP_PREFIX-1.m2v

The end result is a file that's just over half the size of the original
without appreciable loss of quality.

-- Rick C. Petty
From rick-freebsd at kiwi-computer.com  Thu May 29 17:38:44 2008
From: rick-freebsd at kiwi-computer.com (Rick C. Petty)
Date: Thu May 29 17:38:47 2008
Subject: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best?
In-Reply-To: <200805291630.QAA02675@sopwith.solgatos.com>
References: <1212068324.10665.59.camel@localhost>
	<200805291630.QAA02675@sopwith.solgatos.com>
Message-ID: <20080529171202.GB70632@keira.kiwi-computer.com>

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 09:30:33AM +0100, Dieter wrote:
> 
> A lot of material is in mpeg2.  All US OTA DTV is mpeg2.  IIRC most DVDs
> and some HD-DVD & Blu-Ray are mpeg2.  IIRC most cable and sat are mpeg2
> though that may change over time.

Just for clarification, all DVDs playable in DVD players are required to be
MPEG2.  HD-DVD/Blu-Ray can be MPEG2 or MPEG4.

-- Rick C. Petty
From freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com  Thu May 29 19:41:32 2008
From: freebsd at sopwith.solgatos.com (Dieter)
Date: Thu May 29 19:41:36 2008
Subject: pvrxxx recording 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 29 May 2008 07:02:48 EDT."
	<80f4f2b20805290402w84c3f4k3f302385396b6b1c@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200805291937.TAA02371@sopwith.solgatos.com>

> Note: 'cat /dev/cxm0 > out.mpeg' works fine, and looks great - it's
> just huge (3-4GB/hr).

Yes, video is huge.  :-(

Decent quality HD runs 7-8 GB/hour, so 3-4 GB/hr is probably (*) about right
for decent quality SD.

(*) None of my local stations transmit decent quality SD, it's all way
overcompressed due to too many subchannels.  :-(
From usleepless at gmail.com  Thu May 29 20:07:01 2008
From: usleepless at gmail.com (usleepless@gmail.com)
Date: Thu May 29 20:07:04 2008
Subject: pvrxxx recording
In-Reply-To: <20080529170858.GA70632@keira.kiwi-computer.com>
References: <80f4f2b20805290402w84c3f4k3f302385396b6b1c@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080529170858.GA70632@keira.kiwi-computer.com>
Message-ID: <c39ec84c0805291239h4f9a357o449dc58b6026d33@mail.gmail.com>

Rick, Jim, List,

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Rick C. Petty
<rick-freebsd@kiwi-computer.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:02:48AM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote:
>> OK, I got my pvrxxx problems fixed (I apparantly had my ffmpeg line wrong).
>>
>> I'm having trouble getting a decent recording though. The uncompressed
>> stream is too large for comfort.
>
> Uncompressed, it should be.
>
>> $ cat /dev/cxm0 | ffmpeg -i - -vcodec $v -acoded $a -f $f out.mpeg
>> $ ffmpeg -i /dev/cxm0 -vcodec $v -acoded $a -f $f out.mpeg
>
> So you're fine with a multi-step process?  BTW, you might get better
> performance if your first command is:
>
>        ffmpeg -i /dev/cxm0 -vcodec $v ...
>
>> Note: 'cat /dev/cxm0 > out.mpeg' works fine, and looks great - it's
>> just huge (3-4GB/hr).
>
> That's not that huge.
>
>> Does anyone know of a format that should work well? The computer is a
>> Optron 185 (dual core, 2.4Ghz), with 3GB memory, and a 7200RPM hard
>> drive.
>
> Your computer is too slow to do a live decode/encode of an MPEG2 stream.
> Since you don't mind a multi-step process, why don't you record at the
> standard bitrate and do a post-process step?  That's what I do.  I actually
> have my own cxm_record program which calls the setchannel command and then
> performs a cat(1) equivalent.  After the recording is finished, I use
> multimedia/avidemux to select cut/edit points and a custom script to
> convert the avidemux project to a multimedia/dvbcut project.  I've found
> dvbcut does a better job of cutting the MPEG2 streams and does a minimum
> recoding process (only at the edit points).  From there I run a custom
> script to furthur compress the MPEG2 stream and turn it into a DVD VOB.
> This script may be of interest to you and your issue, so I'll describe it
> here.
>
> I demultiplex the audio & video streams separately using multimedxa/mpgtx:
>
> mpgdemux -b $TMP_PREFIX $OUTPUT_FROM_DVBCUT
>
> Then, in parallel, I convert & compress the audio and video streams.  For
> the audio, I make a named pipe and decode using audio/lame:
>
> mkfifo $TMP_PREFIX.wav
> lame --decode $TMP_PREFIX.mp2 $TMP_PREFIX.wav
>
> then encode into AC3 using multimedia/ffmpeg:
>
> ffmpeg -i $TMP_PREFIX.wav -y -vn -ab 192000 -acodec ac3 -ar 48000 -ac 2 \
>        $TMP_PREFIX.ac3
>
> For the video, I requantize the video by a factor of 3:2 using
> multimedia/transcode:
>
> tcrequant -f 1.5 < $TMP_PREFIX-0.m2v > $TMP_PREFIX-1.m2v
>
> After both are finished, I multiplex the streams together into a
> dvdauthor-ready VOB using multimedia/mjpegtools:
>
> mplex -v 0 -V -M -f 8 -o $OUTPUT.vob $TMP_PREFIX.ac3 $TMP_PREFIX-1.m2v
>
> The end result is a file that's just over half the size of the original
> without appreciable loss of quality.

Rick, thanks for outlining your procedure. I had no idea that people
were postprocessing their recordings.

I recently adjusted the bitrate for my profile from ~10Mbit to ~5MBit.
I hardly notice a difference except for fast moving sports such as
tennis and motorsports.

Unfortunatly you need to edit the source of the driver and rebuild it.
The relevant parameters are at the top of cxm.c. You need to edit the
"dvd_full_d1_(pal|ntsc)_profile":

/* 9.52 Mb/s peak limit to keep bbdmux followed by mplex -f 8 happy */
#ifdef _original_
        { 0, 9000000, 9520000 }, /* 1 hour on 4.7 GB media */
#else
    { 0, 4000000, 4520000 }, /* 4 hours on 8.54 GB media */
#endif

regards,

usleep
From hopet at ics.muni.cz  Thu May 29 21:17:03 2008
From: hopet at ics.muni.cz (Petr Holub)
Date: Thu May 29 21:17:08 2008
Subject: snd_envy24ht and ESI Juli@
Message-ID: <010801c8c1cc$75a44c50$60ece4f0$@muni.cz>

Hi,

I'm wondering if anybody got reasonable recording using ESI Juli@
card with snd_envy24ht module? Playback sounds fine with this card,
but it looks like I wasn't able to get any single bit (Audacity,
krec).

Thanks,
Petr

================================================================
                            Petr Holub
CESNET z.s.p.o.                       Supercomputing Center Brno
Zikova 4                             Institute of Compt. Science
162 00 Praha 6, CZ                            Masaryk University
Czech Republic                     Botanicka 68a, 60200 Brno, CZ 
e-mail: Petr.Holub@cesnet.cz               phone: +420-549493944
                                             fax: +420-541212747
                                       e-mail: hopet@ics.muni.cz



From Alexander at Leidinger.net  Fri May 30 14:51:39 2008
From: Alexander at Leidinger.net (Alexander Leidinger)
Date: Fri May 30 14:51:46 2008
Subject: pvrxxx recording
In-Reply-To: <20080529170858.GA70632@keira.kiwi-computer.com>
References: <80f4f2b20805290402w84c3f4k3f302385396b6b1c@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080529170858.GA70632@keira.kiwi-computer.com>
Message-ID: <20080530163356.196549a87jpa2gys@webmail.leidinger.net>

Quoting "Rick C. Petty" <rick-freebsd@kiwi-computer.com> (from Thu, 29  
May 2008 12:08:58 -0500):

> Then, in parallel, I convert & compress the audio and video streams.  For
> the audio, I make a named pipe and decode using audio/lame:
>
> mkfifo $TMP_PREFIX.wav
> lame --decode $TMP_PREFIX.mp2 $TMP_PREFIX.wav

As one of the lame developers: lame is not a decoder, it is a encoder.  
You are better off by using an decoder to decode this. I would use  
madplay.

> then encode into AC3 using multimedia/ffmpeg:
>
> ffmpeg -i $TMP_PREFIX.wav -y -vn -ab 192000 -acodec ac3 -ar 48000 -ac 2 \
> 	$TMP_PREFIX.ac3

ffmpeg does not understand mp2 inputs?

Bye,
Alexander.

-- 
We are what we pretend to be.
		-- Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

http://www.Leidinger.net    Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7
http://www.FreeBSD.org       netchild @ FreeBSD.org  : PGP ID = 72077137
From bitnix at bitnix.ca  Fri May 30 15:49:39 2008
From: bitnix at bitnix.ca (Douglas Berry)
Date: Fri May 30 15:49:43 2008
Subject: pvrxxx recording 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 29 May 2008 21:39:01 +0200."
	<c39ec84c0805291239h4f9a357o449dc58b6026d33@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200805301511.m4UFBIwb033032@monk.cnd.dundas.on.ca>

On Thu, 29 May 2008 21:39:01 +0200, usleepless@gmail.com wrote:
> I recently adjusted the bitrate for my profile from ~10Mbit to
> ~5MBit. I hardly notice a difference except for fast moving sports
> such as tennis and motorsports. 

Thanks for that.  Before I try reducing the bitrate, is there
a way to turn off interlacing in the driver?  On panning
shots, I'm distracted by the "comb effect" on edges.

Thanks for your work on this driver.

cheers,
doug

From stapleton.41 at gmail.com  Fri May 30 22:48:37 2008
From: stapleton.41 at gmail.com (Jim Stapleton)
Date: Fri May 30 22:48:39 2008
Subject: pvrxxx recording
In-Reply-To: <20080529170858.GA70632@keira.kiwi-computer.com>
References: <80f4f2b20805290402w84c3f4k3f302385396b6b1c@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080529170858.GA70632@keira.kiwi-computer.com>
Message-ID: <80f4f2b20805301548x2e5e55d2g32267504797ffcdb@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Rick C. Petty
<rick-freebsd@kiwi-computer.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:02:48AM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote:
>> OK, I got my pvrxxx problems fixed (I apparantly had my ffmpeg line wrong).
>>
>> I'm having trouble getting a decent recording though. The uncompressed
>> stream is too large for comfort.
>
> Uncompressed, it should be.
>
>> $ cat /dev/cxm0 | ffmpeg -i - -vcodec $v -acoded $a -f $f out.mpeg
>> $ ffmpeg -i /dev/cxm0 -vcodec $v -acoded $a -f $f out.mpeg
>
> So you're fine with a multi-step process?  BTW, you might get better
> performance if your first command is:
>
>        ffmpeg -i /dev/cxm0 -vcodec $v ...
>
>> Note: 'cat /dev/cxm0 > out.mpeg' works fine, and looks great - it's
>> just huge (3-4GB/hr).
>
> That's not that huge.
>
>> Does anyone know of a format that should work well? The computer is a
>> Optron 185 (dual core, 2.4Ghz), with 3GB memory, and a 7200RPM hard
>> drive.
>
> Your computer is too slow to do a live decode/encode of an MPEG2 stream.
> Since you don't mind a multi-step process, why don't you record at the
> standard bitrate and do a post-process step?  That's what I do.  I actually
> have my own cxm_record program which calls the setchannel command and then
> performs a cat(1) equivalent.  After the recording is finished, I use
> multimedia/avidemux to select cut/edit points and a custom script to
> convert the avidemux project to a multimedia/dvbcut project.  I've found
> dvbcut does a better job of cutting the MPEG2 streams and does a minimum
> recoding process (only at the edit points).  From there I run a custom
> script to furthur compress the MPEG2 stream and turn it into a DVD VOB.
> This script may be of interest to you and your issue, so I'll describe it
> here.

I never said or insinuated that the stepwise process is functional (or
not minded) on my computer. I simply said cat'ing the device to the
drive causes a video that looks acceptable (actually good).

The stepwise process is not feasable with my current setup/situation
due to drive space, and the length of some of the recordings I want to
do. Also, having tested it out, the coversion is actually worse in the
stepwise process.
the 720x488 image looks fairly decent for the most part doing
on-the-fly encoding. The problem is, if there is much motion, the
portions of the screen with motion tend to look like they are are
appropriate for the image being in 72x49 resolution, rather than
720x488. The remain sections of the screen look like I would expect
from, say, 360x244 (1/2 x 1/2), scaled to the player's size.

When I have a stepped process (I cat my sample video to a file, then
ffmpeg the file), I end up with something that looks like it's
appropriate for a 180x122 (1/4 x 1/4 image), throughout the picture,
but motion degredation is barely noticable. it's still too low for my
comfort. The original file appears to be full quality.

Also, in the stepped process
* all the conversions took about 4-5 seconds for a 20 second video
* my CPU was at fairly low utilization 45-65%.
* At the time of the conversion/recording, my disk IO was being hogged
by a compile and backup process.

Is there extra overhead to compressing something straight out of the
tuner? Using a similarly performing algorithm, (2x on each axis, 4x
the power, right?) should be possible real-time with the same 45-65%
CPU utilization.
From pj at smo.de  Sat May 31 00:03:19 2008
From: pj at smo.de (Philipp Ost)
Date: Sat May 31 00:03:23 2008
Subject: snd_envy24ht and ESI Juli@
In-Reply-To: <010801c8c1cc$75a44c50$60ece4f0$@muni.cz>
References: <010801c8c1cc$75a44c50$60ece4f0$@muni.cz>
Message-ID: <48402246.9030109@smo.de>

Petr Holub wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I'm wondering if anybody got reasonable recording using ESI Juli@
>card with snd_envy24ht module? Playback sounds fine with this card,
>but it looks like I wasn't able to get any single bit (Audacity,
>krec).
>

As of now the driver doesn't support recording. Last time I asked 
Konstantin about this issue, he didn't know when he will have the time 
to fix it.

Greetings,
Philipp

From hopet at ics.muni.cz  Sat May 31 19:09:42 2008
From: hopet at ics.muni.cz (Petr Holub)
Date: Sat May 31 19:09:45 2008
Subject: snd_envy24ht and ESI Juli@
In-Reply-To: <48402246.9030109@smo.de>
References: <010801c8c1cc$75a44c50$60ece4f0$@muni.cz> <48402246.9030109@smo.de>
Message-ID: <001e01c8c351$e02b98e0$a082caa0$@muni.cz>

Dear Konstantin,

> As of now the driver doesn't support recording. Last time I asked
> Konstantin about this issue, he didn't know when he will have the time
> to fix it.

is there any chance you will have time to finish also the recording
part of snd_envy24ht? We're hitting this probem more and more urgently
as we need some higher-grade card for both playback and recording
(e.g., full-duplex operation for videoconferencing) and both ESI Juli@
and Audiophile 192 are very affordable alternatives.

Thanks a lot in advance,
Petr