Jesse, One other thing I thought of... it's possible that something else already has that pty open (telnetd, sshd, screen, typescript something of that sort). Try something like this: # cd /dev; ./MAKEDEV pty1 # irs -c -y /dev/ptyqv -d /dev/cuaa1 # ln -s /dev/ttyqv /dev/pilot Hope that helps. -jan- -- Jan L. Peterson <jlp at softhome.net>