this is probably a little touchy to ask...

[Achilleas Mantzios]

=46or anyone having invested in java in the browser (aka applets) in the la=
st 10 years,
this thing will definitely come back and bite us.
Anyway, Whats the status of the java plugin in firefox 3.6 in the linux wor=
ld?
You can always run a linux inside FreeBSD's virtualbox. (i am doing it righ=
t now and it rocks!!!)

=CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Friday 10 September 2010 13:38:00 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Ju=
les Gilbert =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5:
> Look, I'm just a user.  I'm not a Java developer, not a language
> developer, not a run-time specialist.  But folks, we got problems!  I
> say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a
> browser.
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> I didn't even know that Google and Oracle weren't getting along, I
> really am out of date.  (All I do is code.)
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> But here's the thing: almost no one can make a java enabled browser,
> and lot's of us need exactly that, java running on our browsers.  So
> obviously this means that something is seriously wrong -- and worse,
> when I asked "how", no one came back and said "Oh, you obviously
> didn't install such-and-such a patch, do that and everything will
> work."  No, and worse, the responses are all about possible solutions
> in the distant not-known-when-and-only-maybe future.
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> I do think we should all get behind this Beat fellow, he's
> beat at freebsd.org, his work seems closest to bringing up a java-enabled
> browser, with zero or at least few problems.
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> --jg
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> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Randal L. Schwartz
> <merlyn at stonehenge.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> "Jules" =3D=3D Jules Gilbert <jules.stocks at gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > Jules> Now an opinion. =A0If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should l=
ook
> > Jules> around for an alternative, even inventing something else, someth=
ing
> > Jules> that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java.
> >
> > You mean something that looks like Java but isn't Java?
> >
> > That's precisely what the Oracle v. Google suit is about. =A0Dangerous
> > road to go down at this point.
> >
> > Or do you mean something that isn't even Java, but has a lot of
> > Java-like features?
> >
> > I think you're describing "everything else already available in
> > production". =A0Plenty of choices.
> >
> > --
> > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 =
0095
> > <merlyn at stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
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> > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discus=
sion
> >
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