Eclipse as part of the ports/java tree?

[Vizion]

On Wednesday 31 August 2005 08:51,  the author Herve Quiroz contributed to the 
dialogue on-
 Re: Eclipse as part of the ports/java tree?: 

>Roger,
>
>On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 07:48:43AM -0700, Roger Marquis wrote:
>> Vizion wrote:
>> >I am now faced with the question is the ports tree as inflexible as some
>> >people suggest or are some members of our meritocracy more inflexible
>> > than the freebsd assets?
>>
>> What you see as inflexibility the rest of us see as structure.  Sure
>> it would be nice to insert a goto on occasion but, from a long-term
>> perspective, the existing structure is better.
>
>As I already told David in a private mail, he seems to lack the proper
>understanding of the depth and complexity of the ports system.

I think you are right -- I do not understand its complexity and that is really 
part of my point. 

The priority is trying to find a method that works even if it means doing 
something different. I agree we need to use the existing ports mechanism - I 
do not agree with the almost quasi-religious notion that we cannot make 
eclipse a category. If there is a good functional reason for making it a 
category then fine -- and that would apply to any other candidate as well. 
There is nothing sacred about categories.

However let me make it clear my btarget is not  to achieve a category but a 
means of having all eclipse plugins in a single directory.

If someone who understand the  complexity of the ports system can figure that 
out then we are home amnd dry.



>
>And as I stated in the forecited message to David, I will now focus on
>getting the 'java' category fully virtualized and begone from the
>freebsd-eclipse effort unless specifically asked for help. I have some
>other issues to tackle on my own.
>
>As a side note, I am already starting to find that the freebsd-eclipse@
>mailing list will have things even more difficult for the community to
>get commiters involved in the process.
>
>> Mark Linimon wrote:
>> >In your most recent email I think you are finally getting a lot closer to
>> >what I consider 'real' problem.  IMHO the interesting problems you want
>> > to solve are the 'search' and 'browse' problems.
>>
>> This is a good point, and a legitimate issue.  One solution might be
>> to move or symlink portsearch from /usr/ports/Tools/scripts to
>> /usr/local/bin.
>
>I agree with this. portsearch is such a great tool that I wonder why it
>has not yet found its way into ${PREFIX}/bin. We are flying away from
>the Java and Eclipse discussion here but since Mark (and his maintainer
>hat) is involved, I would like to suggest the idea to have such symlink
>created by sysutils/port-maintenance-tools.
>
>Herve
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