From stas at FreeBSD.org Mon Dec 1 14:53:12 2008 From: stas at FreeBSD.org (Stanislav Sedov) Date: Mon Dec 1 14:53:19 2008 Subject: PF + ALTQ - Bandwidth per customer In-Reply-To: <425805.11833.qm@web38505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <692660060811290748i33059137g3977e51f692d8340@mail.gmail.com> <425805.11833.qm@web38505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20081202012350.5f2415f3.stas@FreeBSD.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:26:57 -0800 (PST) David Roseman mentioned: > It also has a traffic monitor that is indispensable in tracking down > DOS attacks, worms and out of control servers. I'd pay $500. just for the monitor. I have a problem, I fire up the monitor and bingo, I find the > problem. I think you can buy the lowest priced license and still use the > monitor and gather statistics no matter how large your network is. > How does this traffic monitor differ from tcpdump? From pictures it looks like just a web-interface for tcpdump and nothing more... - -- Stanislav Sedov ST4096-RIPE -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAkk0Y/sACgkQK/VZk+smlYFIMgCePZdDAbMJRrH/L7uvrTDoPGk6 LfYAn1BWfBBDyTTmALteVUEFcxfMvOib =jnfa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sfourman at gmail.com Mon Dec 1 15:36:26 2008 From: sfourman at gmail.com (Sam Fourman Jr.) Date: Mon Dec 1 15:36:32 2008 Subject: PF + ALTQ - Bandwidth per customer In-Reply-To: <705757.42117.qm@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20081124180411.0b065be5@wolwerine> <705757.42117.qm@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <11167f520812011508u46b04e7dmb1d5d22675dc778d@mail.gmail.com> > You should consider a commercial product rather than relying on > old and somewhat unreliable technology. We've been able to squeeze a > lot more customers onto our network for a $3500. investment. It paid for > itself in 2 months. We have a dual-core 2.33Ghz system passing 95Mb/s > with 12000 rules in place and it runs at about 10%. The latest version is > truly amazing. So I would like to hear some ideas on how we could use FreeBSD or any other BSD to limit bandwidth per customer( say one customer (with root access) per server ) I attended BSDCan 2008 in Canada this may, and I asked a few of the pfsense devlopers this exact question it was meet with limited feedback. I guess what I would like to know is What is the limitation of what we can achieve with FreeBSD would it be appropriate given the topic to cross post this to misc@openbsd.org? Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks From sullrich at gmail.com Mon Dec 1 16:19:57 2008 From: sullrich at gmail.com (Scott Ullrich) Date: Mon Dec 1 16:20:04 2008 Subject: PF + ALTQ - Bandwidth per customer In-Reply-To: <11167f520812011508u46b04e7dmb1d5d22675dc778d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20081124180411.0b065be5@wolwerine> <705757.42117.qm@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <11167f520812011508u46b04e7dmb1d5d22675dc778d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: >> You should consider a commercial product rather than relying on >> old and somewhat unreliable technology. We've been able to squeeze a >> lot more customers onto our network for a $3500. investment. It paid for >> itself in 2 months. We have a dual-core 2.33Ghz system passing 95Mb/s >> with 12000 rules in place and it runs at about 10%. The latest version is >> truly amazing. > > So I would like to hear some ideas on how we could use FreeBSD or any other BSD > to limit bandwidth per customer( say one customer (with root access) > per server ) > > I attended BSDCan 2008 in Canada this may, and I asked a few of the > pfsense devlopers this exact question > it was meet with limited feedback. There was not much to report at that point. However, pfSense 2.0 has per user bandwidth ported from DragonFlyBSD. If you would like to test the patch, it is located here: http://cvs.pfsense.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/tools/patches/RELENG_7_1/fairq.RELENG_7.diff?rev=1.3;content-type=text%2Fplain Scott From antik at bsd.ee Tue Dec 2 01:12:33 2008 From: antik at bsd.ee (Andrei Kolu) Date: Tue Dec 2 01:12:46 2008 Subject: PF + ALTQ - Bandwidth per customer In-Reply-To: <20081202075634.GT51761@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20081124180411.0b065be5@wolwerine> <705757.42117.qm@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <11167f520812011508u46b04e7dmb1d5d22675dc778d@mail.gmail.com> <20081202075634.GT51761@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4934F4F3.1030808@bsd.ee> Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2008-Dec-01 17:08:40 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: > >> So I would like to hear some ideas on how we could use FreeBSD or any other BSD >> to limit bandwidth per customer( say one customer (with root access) >> per server ) >> > > That description sounds like it simplifies to "limit bandwidth based on > IP address" - which is fairly trivial for ipfw+dummynet or pf+altq. > > ipfw+dummynet is really ugly traffic "shaper" (let's face it there is no shaping going on), because instead of limiting bandwidth it will drop packets to simulate bad connection. I hear many years about "trivial" configuration per user bandwidth limit with pf+altq but never saw ANY code... You can't set bandwidth limit with PF like 3Mbit per 100 clients if your lan card is 100Mbit. This is just lame- in reality clients never use all bandwidth and never all clients are connected all the time. Even Linux ipfilter does it for years with insane cryptic commandline but it just works. > ipfw+dummynet can also filter on uid/gid but I believe there are some > race conditions in that code > > From peterjeremy at optushome.com.au Tue Dec 2 01:22:14 2008 From: peterjeremy at optushome.com.au (Peter Jeremy) Date: Tue Dec 2 01:22:26 2008 Subject: PF + ALTQ - Bandwidth per customer In-Reply-To: <4934F4F3.1030808@bsd.ee> References: <20081124180411.0b065be5@wolwerine> <705757.42117.qm@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <11167f520812011508u46b04e7dmb1d5d22675dc778d@mail.gmail.com> <20081202075634.GT51761@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <4934F4F3.1030808@bsd.ee> Message-ID: <20081202092204.GU51761@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> On 2008-Dec-02 10:42:27 +0200, Andrei Kolu wrote: >> That description sounds like it simplifies to "limit bandwidth based on >> IP address" - which is fairly trivial for ipfw+dummynet or pf+altq. >> >ipfw+dummynet is really ugly traffic "shaper" (let's face it there is no >shaping going on), because instead of limiting bandwidth it will drop >packets to simulate bad connection. I've been using ipfw+dummynet for traffic shaping for 7 or 8 years without problems (and have recently moved to pf+dummynet). I don't understand your comment about limiting bandwidth: An incoming packet is put on a queue that is emptied at no more than the (simulated) available outbound bandwidth. If the queue is full then incoming packets will be dropped. This is the same behaviour as any other router (or switch). What do you want/expect? > I hear many years about "trivial" >configuration per user bandwidth limit with pf+altq but never saw ANY >code... Note that I never mentioned per-user bandwidth with pf+altq - though it looks possible. There are some trivial traffic-shaping examples in pf.conf(5) but I will admit that I've never tried to actually use altq - I use dummynet because I need functionality that isn't present in altq. -- Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-isp/attachments/20081202/97fe46f5/attachment.pgp From eculp at encontacto.net Tue Dec 2 05:03:46 2008 From: eculp at encontacto.net (eculp) Date: Tue Dec 2 05:03:54 2008 Subject: PF + ALTQ - Bandwidth per customer In-Reply-To: <20081202092204.GU51761@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20081124180411.0b065be5@wolwerine> <705757.42117.qm@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <11167f520812011508u46b04e7dmb1d5d22675dc778d@mail.gmail.com> <20081202075634.GT51761@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <4934F4F3.1030808@bsd.ee> <20081202092204.GU51761@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20081202070343.34221p9405nzs76s@econet.encontacto.net> Quoting Peter Jeremy : > On 2008-Dec-02 10:42:27 +0200, Andrei Kolu wrote: >>> That description sounds like it simplifies to "limit bandwidth based on >>> IP address" - which is fairly trivial for ipfw+dummynet or pf+altq. >>> >> ipfw+dummynet is really ugly traffic "shaper" (let's face it there is no >> shaping going on), because instead of limiting bandwidth it will drop >> packets to simulate bad connection. > > I've been using ipfw+dummynet for traffic shaping for 7 or 8 years > without problems (and have recently moved to pf+dummynet). I don't > understand your comment about limiting bandwidth: An incoming packet > is put on a queue that is emptied at no more than the (simulated) > available outbound bandwidth. If the queue is full then incoming > packets will be dropped. This is the same behaviour as any other > router (or switch). > > What do you want/expect? > >> I hear many years about "trivial" >> configuration per user bandwidth limit with pf+altq but never saw ANY >> code... > > Note that I never mentioned per-user bandwidth with pf+altq - though > it looks possible. There are some trivial traffic-shaping examples in > pf.conf(5) but I will admit that I've never tried to actually use altq > - I use dummynet because I need functionality that isn't present in > altq. I had forgotten that dummynet can be used with pf. Maybe i should start this with a new subject but it is directly related in that I need bandwidth control again that I don?t have since changing to pf. o- What needs to be patched/done to make them work together on Current and Releng? o- Are you happier with the combination of dummynet with pf than with IPFW? DummyNet was one of the reasons that I was slow to leave IPFW. Thanks and I am really not trying to hijack this thread, be glad to start a new one. ed From sfourman at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 09:40:30 2008 From: sfourman at gmail.com (Sam Fourman Jr.) Date: Tue Dec 2 09:40:38 2008 Subject: PF + ALTQ - Bandwidth per customer In-Reply-To: <20081202070343.34221p9405nzs76s@econet.encontacto.net> References: <20081124180411.0b065be5@wolwerine> <705757.42117.qm@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <11167f520812011508u46b04e7dmb1d5d22675dc778d@mail.gmail.com> <20081202075634.GT51761@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <4934F4F3.1030808@bsd.ee> <20081202092204.GU51761@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20081202070343.34221p9405nzs76s@econet.encontacto.net> Message-ID: <11167f520812020940w423bf0cco466a3423f762b291@mail.gmail.com> > I had forgotten that dummynet can be used with pf. Maybe i should start this > with a new subject but it is directly related in that I need bandwidth > control again that I don?t have since changing to pf. > > o- What needs to be patched/done to make them work together > on Current and Releng? > o- Are you happier with the combination of dummynet with pf > than with IPFW? > > DummyNet was one of the reasons that I was slow to leave IPFW. > > Thanks and I am really not trying to hijack this thread, be glad to start a > new one. so you actually can use DummyNet w/ pf to limit bandwidth per ip? is there anyway to say.. ip address x must be used with MAC Address y then follow the per ip bandwidth limit if not then drop all traffic in and out? Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks From sfourman at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 10:08:50 2008 From: sfourman at gmail.com (Sam Fourman Jr.) Date: Tue Dec 2 10:08:56 2008 Subject: PF + ALTQ - Bandwidth per customer In-Reply-To: <493575F7.7020904@binarysalad.com> References: <20081124180411.0b065be5@wolwerine> <705757.42117.qm@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <11167f520812011508u46b04e7dmb1d5d22675dc778d@mail.gmail.com> <20081202075634.GT51761@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <4934F4F3.1030808@bsd.ee> <20081202092204.GU51761@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20081202070343.34221p9405nzs76s@econet.encontacto.net> <11167f520812020940w423bf0cco466a3423f762b291@mail.gmail.com> <493575F7.7020904@binarysalad.com> Message-ID: <11167f520812021008r13cb927cy409af862f0bbaa9e@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Kahlil Erwin Talledo wrote: > Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: >>> I had forgotten that dummynet can be used with pf. Maybe i should start this >>> with a new subject but it is directly related in that I need bandwidth >>> control again that I don?t have since changing to pf. >>> >>> o- What needs to be patched/done to make them work together >>> on Current and Releng? >>> o- Are you happier with the combination of dummynet with pf >>> than with IPFW? >>> >>> DummyNet was one of the reasons that I was slow to leave IPFW. >>> >>> Thanks and I am really not trying to hijack this thread, be glad to start a >>> new one. >> >> so you actually can use DummyNet w/ pf to limit bandwidth per ip? >> >> is there anyway to say.. ip address x must be used with MAC Address y >> then follow the per ip bandwidth limit >> if not then drop all traffic in and out? > > you have to remember that mac is layer two and it can be easily spoofed. > so doing it that way might not be the best thing to do it. that's just > my two cents though. you are absolutely right, after thinking about it a bit more, the right idea would be to somehow limit bandwidth per ip or group of ip's(several bound to the same interface) any ideas? Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks From kstalledo at binarysalad.com Tue Dec 2 11:03:13 2008 From: kstalledo at binarysalad.com (Kahlil Erwin Talledo) Date: Tue Dec 2 11:03:20 2008 Subject: PF + ALTQ - Bandwidth per customer In-Reply-To: <11167f520812020940w423bf0cco466a3423f762b291@mail.gmail.com> References: <20081124180411.0b065be5@wolwerine> <705757.42117.qm@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <11167f520812011508u46b04e7dmb1d5d22675dc778d@mail.gmail.com> <20081202075634.GT51761@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <4934F4F3.1030808@bsd.ee> <20081202092204.GU51761@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20081202070343.34221p9405nzs76s@econet.encontacto.net> <11167f520812020940w423bf0cco466a3423f762b291@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <493575F7.7020904@binarysalad.com> Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: >> I had forgotten that dummynet can be used with pf. Maybe i should start this >> with a new subject but it is directly related in that I need bandwidth >> control again that I don?t have since changing to pf. >> >> o- What needs to be patched/done to make them work together >> on Current and Releng? >> o- Are you happier with the combination of dummynet with pf >> than with IPFW? >> >> DummyNet was one of the reasons that I was slow to leave IPFW. >> >> Thanks and I am really not trying to hijack this thread, be glad to start a >> new one. > > so you actually can use DummyNet w/ pf to limit bandwidth per ip? > > is there anyway to say.. ip address x must be used with MAC Address y > then follow the per ip bandwidth limit > if not then drop all traffic in and out? you have to remember that mac is layer two and it can be easily spoofed. so doing it that way might not be the best thing to do it. that's just my two cents though. > > Sam Fourman Jr. > Fourman Networks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From paulo at nlink.com.br Tue Dec 2 11:36:47 2008 From: paulo at nlink.com.br (Paulo Fragoso) Date: Tue Dec 2 11:36:54 2008 Subject: Stream servers recomendations Message-ID: <49358809.9040408@nlink.com.br> Hi, I've already used RealServer on FreeBSD at 1999, but now there isn't RealServer for FreeBSD and its licenses are more expensive than 1999. Can I get similar results using Darwin Streaming Server for FreeBSD? What is the best solution using server running FreeBSD? Paulo. From max at neuropunks.org Tue Dec 2 12:10:45 2008 From: max at neuropunks.org (Max Gribov) Date: Tue Dec 2 12:10:52 2008 Subject: Stream servers recomendations In-Reply-To: <49358809.9040408@nlink.com.br> References: <49358809.9040408@nlink.com.br> Message-ID: <493592AD.1020604@neuropunks.org> Paulo Fragoso wrote: > Hi, > > I've already used RealServer on FreeBSD at 1999, but now there isn't > RealServer for FreeBSD and its licenses are more expensive than 1999. > For audio i've used icecast and shoutcast successfully, worked very well. could never get darwin to work, but that was fbsd 5.2.1 on sparc64 so you may have better luck.. > Can I get similar results using Darwin Streaming Server for FreeBSD? > > What is the best solution using server running FreeBSD? > > Paulo. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From simon at optinet.com Tue Dec 2 12:41:54 2008 From: simon at optinet.com (Simon) Date: Tue Dec 2 12:42:00 2008 Subject: Stream servers recomendations In-Reply-To: <49358809.9040408@nlink.com.br> Message-ID: <20081202204154.0AD968FC12@mx1.freebsd.org> Flash streaming is the new way to stream, not sure if they have it for FBSD, though. Would be interested to hear some responses, as well. -Simon On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:10:01 -0300, Paulo Fragoso wrote: >Hi, >I've already used RealServer on FreeBSD at 1999, but now there isn't >RealServer for FreeBSD and its licenses are more expensive than 1999. >Can I get similar results using Darwin Streaming Server for FreeBSD? >What is the best solution using server running FreeBSD? >Paulo. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From jakelleydds at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 03:01:16 2008 From: jakelleydds at sbcglobal.net (Jeff Kelley, DDS) Date: Fri Dec 5 03:01:23 2008 Subject: A Holiday Survival Guide for Your Smile! Message-ID: <60bebce607ca4e609c63229f05804bbd@1stnewsletters.com> Greetings from Jeff Kelley, DDS! A Holiday Survival Guide for Your Smile The holidays are upon us, and ?tis the season for a bit of togetherness (and a lot of indulgence). We don?t all celebrate the same holidays or adhere to the same belief systems, but there is one thing that seems to unite us all: comfort food. Cold weather and sweets go hand-in-hand. What?s a good snowball fight without a warm cup of cocoa to come home to? Even in warmer climates, it?s difficult to dissuade dreams of sugar plums after a good night of classic movies with your family. So, while this "soul food" may be good for your spirits, take a moment to think about what it?s doing to your teeth. How Could Something So Good Be So Bad? Sugar can wreck havoc on your pearly whites. It?s a complicated process, but here?s the scoop. Bacteria in your mouth use your sweets as energy, growing and multiplying faster than they would otherwise. Some bond with the sugar to form a sticky glue called plaque. Plaque, in turn, produces acid. The acid dissolves the minerals that make your tooth enamel hard, and the surface becomes porous. The acid causes these tiny holes in the enamel to become bigger until one large hole appears. This is a cavity. Does This Mean No More? While ideally we would never expose our teeth to sugar or anything else that promotes tooth decay, that?s just not realistic. All we can do is try to minimize the damage. Don?t let your holiday routine interrupt your dental care regimen. Brush your teeth at least twice a day with a fluoride toothpaste (unless you?re a young tyke), and floss at least once. If you decide to indulge in more sweets than usual, it?s a good idea to brush more often. If you don?t have your toothbrush on hand, rinse your mouth out with warm water. Certain sugar-free gums can help as well. Choose those with Xylitol, an artificial sweetener that can help prevent tooth decay. And finally, try to mix up your snacks. If you?re eating a sugary treat, try to also eat a bit of cheese (or a similar protein) as well. Nothing warms a chilly night like a big smile, so be sure to protect yours. Please do not hesitate to call us at (817)877-1651 if you have questions regarding proper dental care, or would like to schedule a check-up or cleaning. As always, your continued good health is our top priority. If you have questions regarding dental health, please call our office at (817)877-1651 or email us at jakelleydds@sbcglobal.net today. Best Regards, Jeff Kelley, DDS P.S. If you have any friends or family members who you feel could use our services, please don't hesitate to have them call us. We'll be sure to take good care of them. From drleute at familydentistportwashington.com Fri Dec 5 03:43:23 2008 From: drleute at familydentistportwashington.com (Dr. Josh Leute) Date: Fri Dec 5 03:43:30 2008 Subject: A Holiday Survival Guide for Your Smile! Message-ID: Greetings from Dr. Josh Leute! A Holiday Survival Guide for Your Smile The holidays are upon us, and ?tis the season for a bit of togetherness (and a lot of indulgence). We don?t all celebrate the same holidays or adhere to the same belief systems, but there is one thing that seems to unite us all: comfort food. Cold weather and sweets go hand-in-hand. What?s a good snowball fight without a warm cup of cocoa to come home to? Even in warmer climates, it?s difficult to dissuade dreams of sugar plums after a good night of classic movies with your family. So, while this "soul food" may be good for your spirits, take a moment to think about what it?s doing to your teeth. How Could Something So Good Be So Bad? Sugar can wreck havoc on your pearly whites. It?s a complicated process, but here?s the scoop. Bacteria in your mouth use your sweets as energy, growing and multiplying faster than they would otherwise. Some bond with the sugar to form a sticky glue called plaque. Plaque, in turn, produces acid. The acid dissolves the minerals that make your tooth enamel hard, and the surface becomes porous. The acid causes these tiny holes in the enamel to become bigger until one large hole appears. This is a cavity. Does This Mean No More? While ideally we would never expose our teeth to sugar or anything else that promotes tooth decay, that?s just not realistic. All we can do is try to minimize the damage. Don?t let your holiday routine interrupt your dental care regimen. Brush your teeth at least twice a day with a fluoride toothpaste (unless you?re a young tyke), and floss at least once. If you decide to indulge in more sweets than usual, it?s a good idea to brush more often. If you don?t have your toothbrush on hand, rinse your mouth out with warm water. Certain sugar-free gums can help as well. Choose those with Xylitol, an artificial sweetener that can help prevent tooth decay. And finally, try to mix up your snacks. If you?re eating a sugary treat, try to also eat a bit of cheese (or a similar protein) as well. Nothing warms a chilly night like a big smile, so be sure to protect yours. Please do not hesitate to call us at (262)284-5884 if you have questions regarding proper dental care, or would like to schedule a check-up or cleaning. As always, your continued good health is our top priority. If you have questions regarding dental health, please call our office at (262)284-5884 or email us at drleute@familydentistportwashington.com today. Best Regards, Dr. Josh Leute P.S. If you have any friends or family members who you feel could use our services, please don't hesitate to have them call us. We'll be sure to take good care of them. From drz at dentistsherwood.com Fri Dec 5 04:38:57 2008 From: drz at dentistsherwood.com (Dr. Julian H. Zhitnitsky) Date: Fri Dec 5 04:39:03 2008 Subject: A Holiday Survival Guide for Your Smile! Message-ID: <558aeab0be254d7c898cc0d4a005b069@1stnewsletters.com> Greetings from Dr. Julian H. Zhitnitsky! A Holiday Survival Guide for Your Smile The holidays are upon us, and ?tis the season for a bit of togetherness (and a lot of indulgence). We don?t all celebrate the same holidays or adhere to the same belief systems, but there is one thing that seems to unite us all: comfort food. Cold weather and sweets go hand-in-hand. What?s a good snowball fight without a warm cup of cocoa to come home to? Even in warmer climates, it?s difficult to dissuade dreams of sugar plums after a good night of classic movies with your family. So, while this "soul food" may be good for your spirits, take a moment to think about what it?s doing to your teeth. How Could Something So Good Be So Bad? Sugar can wreck havoc on your pearly whites. It?s a complicated process, but here?s the scoop. Bacteria in your mouth use your sweets as energy, growing and multiplying faster than they would otherwise. Some bond with the sugar to form a sticky glue called plaque. Plaque, in turn, produces acid. The acid dissolves the minerals that make your tooth enamel hard, and the surface becomes porous. The acid causes these tiny holes in the enamel to become bigger until one large hole appears. This is a cavity. Does This Mean No More? While ideally we would never expose our teeth to sugar or anything else that promotes tooth decay, that?s just not realistic. All we can do is try to minimize the damage. Don?t let your holiday routine interrupt your dental care regimen. Brush your teeth at least twice a day with a fluoride toothpaste (unless you?re a young tyke), and floss at least once. If you decide to indulge in more sweets than usual, it?s a good idea to brush more often. If you don?t have your toothbrush on hand, rinse your mouth out with warm water. Certain sugar-free gums can help as well. Choose those with Xylitol, an artificial sweetener that can help prevent tooth decay. 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If you have not consulted the GameHouse FAQ, you may find an answer to your question here: http://www.gamehouse.com/support If you have lost the registration code to one of your purchased games, you may be able to retrieve it here: http://store.gamehouse.com/store-lookup.jsp If you are just missing your game or need to reinstall your game, please download the trial version of the game here: http://www.gamehouse.com From simon at optinet.com Thu Dec 11 09:58:28 2008 From: simon at optinet.com (Simon) Date: Thu Dec 11 09:58:35 2008 Subject: Stream servers recomendations In-Reply-To: <49358809.9040408@nlink.com.br> Message-ID: <20081211175827.B98578FC13@mx1.freebsd.org> >I've already used RealServer on FreeBSD at 1999, but now there isn't >RealServer for FreeBSD and its licenses are more expensive than 1999. >Can I get similar results using Darwin Streaming Server for FreeBSD? >What is the best solution using server running FreeBSD? >Paulo. This thread seems to have died, no input on this subject? -Simon From info at kolorbit.com Thu Dec 11 10:30:38 2008 From: info at kolorbit.com (www.kolorbit.com) Date: Thu Dec 11 10:30:45 2008 Subject: Stream servers recomendations In-Reply-To: <20081211175827.B98578FC13@mx1.freebsd.org> References: <20081211175827.B98578FC13@mx1.freebsd.org> Message-ID: Hello, did you considered using Wowza Server? Its java based (big footprint) but works pretty decently Regards, Marco On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:58:21 -0500, "Simon" wrote: > > >>I've already used RealServer on FreeBSD at 1999, but now there isn't >>RealServer for FreeBSD and its licenses are more expensive than 1999. > >>Can I get similar results using Darwin Streaming Server for FreeBSD? > >>What is the best solution using server running FreeBSD? > >>Paulo. > > > This thread seems to have died, no input on this subject? > > -Simon > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From david_5073 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 13 05:29:16 2008 From: david_5073 at yahoo.com (David Roseman) Date: Sat Dec 13 05:29:23 2008 Subject: PF + ALTQ - Bandwidth per customer In-Reply-To: <20081202012350.5f2415f3.stas@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <282383.15620.qm@web38502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, have you run tcpdump on a network with 200Mb/s? The function is performed in the kernel, so its a lot more efficient than tcpdump. The monitor sorts by usage, so you can see which connection, IP or MAC is using the most traffic. When you're getting DOS attacked or have a worm you can find your problems instantly. It doesn't show each packet; it provides a listing of each connection, sorted from high to low usage. You can also use rules as filters, so you can quickly create complex filters. Turning tcpdump on a production shaper isn't an option. David --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Stanislav Sedov wrote: > From: Stanislav Sedov > Subject: Re: PF + ALTQ - Bandwidth per customer > To: david_5073@yahoo.com > Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, "Sebastian Tymk?w" , "Marcello Barreto" , freebsd-pf@freebsd.org > Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 5:23 PM > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:26:57 -0800 (PST) > David Roseman mentioned: > > It also has a traffic monitor that is indispensable in > tracking down > > DOS attacks, worms and out of control servers. I'd > pay $500. just for the monitor. I have a problem, I fire up > the monitor and bingo, I find the > > problem. I think you can buy the lowest priced license > and still use the > > monitor and gather statistics no matter how large your > network is. > > > > How does this traffic monitor differ from tcpdump? From > pictures it looks like > just a web-interface for tcpdump and nothing more... > > - -- > Stanislav Sedov > ST4096-RIPE > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iEYEARECAAYFAkk0Y/sACgkQK/VZk+smlYFIMgCePZdDAbMJRrH/L7uvrTDoPGk6 > LfYAn1BWfBBDyTTmALteVUEFcxfMvOib > =jnfa > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From stas at FreeBSD.org Sat Dec 13 11:15:39 2008 From: stas at FreeBSD.org (Stanislav Sedov) Date: Sat Dec 13 11:15:46 2008 Subject: PF + ALTQ - Bandwidth per customer In-Reply-To: <282383.15620.qm@web38502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20081202012350.5f2415f3.stas@FreeBSD.org> <282383.15620.qm@web38502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20081213221724.64f7c747.stas@FreeBSD.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:29:15 -0800 (PST) David Roseman mentioned: > Well, have you run tcpdump on a network with 200Mb/s? The function is > performed in the kernel, so its a lot more efficient than tcpdump. > > The monitor sorts by usage, so you can see which connection, IP or MAC > is using the most traffic. When you're getting DOS attacked or have a worm > you can find your problems instantly. It doesn't show each packet; it > provides a listing of each connection, sorted from high to low usage. You > can also use rules as filters, so you can quickly create complex filters. > > Turning tcpdump on a production shaper isn't an option. > I don't run any shapers, but I succesfully used tcpdump home-grown scripts to do exactly the same things on a production border router passing more than 600 Mb/s on a single interface. BTW, bpf filters ran inside kernel entrierly. But I see your point. The solution looks interesting. 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