Postfix + AUTH/TLS + Outlook/OE problem

Vlad GALU vladgalu at gmail.com
Mon Aug 21 07:57:10 UTC 2006


On 8/19/06, Adrian Gonzalez <adrianbsd at globalpc.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Darren
>
> Comments below...
>
> Darren Pilgrim wrote:
> > Adrian Gonzalez wrote:
> >  > Hello
> >  >
> >  > I'm seeing some very strange behavior with Outlook 2003 and Outlook
> >  > Express trying to send mail using TLS/SMTP Auth with Postfix 2.3 and
> >  > FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE
> >  >
> >  > It seems like Outlook/OE don't like the SSL handshake for some
> >  > reason.  They connect to the server, issue STARTTLS, and disconnect
> >  > during the handshake, giving an "Error Number: 0x800CCC0B".  I've
> >  > tried both STARTTLS and using 'wrapper mode' on port 465 with the
> >  > same results.
> >

   Don't you have any antiviral software running on the Win32 box by
any chance ? There are cases (such as with Avast) when the STARTTLS
doesn't succeed due to the software's connection monitoring module
refusing to let it pass due to encryption.


> > Which version of Outlook Express were you using?  Outlook Express 6
> > doesn't support STARTTLS, only wrapper-mode.  OE6 also also has a broken
> > SASL implementation (set broken_sasl_auth_clients=yes).  Yay for Microsoft!
>
> Outlook Express 6 (6.00.2900.2180 according to the 'about' window).  Basically,
> the one that comes with Windows XP Pro + All current updates/service packs.  It
> does seem to be trying STARTTLS though.  I did have the broken_sasl_auth_clients
>   option enabled, I believe it just causes postfix to 'advertise' AUTH in the
> usual way along with outlook's broken way.
>
> > Have you modified your cipher settings in postfix?  FYR, Outlook XP/2003
> > and Outlook Express 6 prefer 128-bit RC4-MD5 and do not support AES,
> > whereas Thunderbird supports and prefers AES256-SHA.
>
> I suspect OE might not like what the server is offering, but I'm not qute sure
> what to change.  The postfix manual strongly advises against excluding ciphers.
>   Any suggestions?
>
> > On my own mail server, I can send email using all four clients through
> > STARTTLS+SASL (Outlook and Thunderbird) or SMTPS+SASL (OE).  The server
> > is FreeBSD RELENG_6_1 with the stock OpenSSL and postfix 2.3.1 with
> > default tls_*_cipherlist settings.
>
> I'm using 2.3.0,1 with the updated stable OpenSSL.  I'll try updating my ports
> tree and rebuilding the latest stable postfix and see what happens.
>
> > Be happy to compare configs off-list, postconf -n and the like.
>
> Thanks!
>
> >
> > P.S. You may want to retry this question on postfix-users.  You'll have
> > better luck if you're willing to wade through the usual "ditch MS" rude
> > commentary.
> >
>
> > P.P.S. Please configure your mail client to wrap lines.
> I normally do, but the postfix logs looked really bad with wrapping :)
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