Question that has dogged me for a while.

Lee Brown leeb at ratnaling.org
Thu May 4 16:51:29 UTC 2017


On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Karl Denninger <karl at denninger.net> wrote:

> Consider the following network configuration.
>
>
> Internet ------- Gateway/Firewall ---------- Inside network (including a
> web host)
>             70.16.10.1/28     192.168.0.0/24
>
> The address of the outside is FICTIONAL, by the way.
>
> For policy reasons I do NOT want the gateway machine to actually have
> the host on it.  There may be a number of things running on there but
> for the instant moment let's assume a standard pedestrian web host on
> port 80.
>
> I have DNS pointing at "webhost.domain" @ 70.16.10.1.
>
> I have NAT on the gateway (NAT internal to the kernel), and a "hole
> punch" in there with redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.1:80 70.16.10.1:80 as
> pat of the nat configuration statement.
>
> This works fine for anyone on the outside.  HOWEVER, anyone on the
> INTERNAL network cannot see the host.
>
> My NAT configuration looks like this:
>
> #
> # Now divert all inbound packets that should go through NAT. Since this
> is NAT
> # it can only match a packet that previously was NATted on the way out.
> #
>         ${fwcmd} add 6000 nat 100 ip4 from any to me recv ${oif}
> #
> # Check stateful rules; we want to go there directly if there is a match
> #
>         ${fwcmd} add 7000 check-state
> #
> # Now pick up all *outbound* packets that originated from an inside address
> # and put them through NAT.  We then have
> # a packet with a local source address and we can allow it to be sent.
> # Therefore, if the packet is outbound let it pass and be done with it.
> #
>         ${fwcmd} add 8000 nat 100 ip4 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any xmit
> ${oif}
> >>    ${fwcmd} add 8001 nat 100 ip4 from 192.168.0.0/16 to ${oip}
>         ${fwcmd} add 8009 deny log ip4 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any xmit
> ${oif}
>         ${fwcmd} add 8010 pass ip4 from ${onet} to any xmit ${oif}
>
> Without the ">>" line I get nothing; the packets get to the gateway and
> disappear.
>
> With the ">>" line I DO get the packets re-emitted on the internal
> interface HOWEVER there is no translation to the internal interface IP
> on the gateway box.  So what I see on the internal box is this:
>
> 11:19:16.369634 IP 192.168.10.40.60924 > 192.168.10.100.11443: Flags
> [S], seq 292171178, win 8192, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale
> 8,nop,nop,sackOK], length 0
> 11:19:16.369662 IP 192.168.10.100.11443 > 192.168.10.40.60924: Flags
> [S.], seq 3088872007, ack 292171179, win 65535, options [mss
> 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,eol], length 0
>
> Which won't work because the internal box got and sent this:
>
> 11:19:16.369337 IP 192.168.10.40.60924 > 70.169.168.7.11443: Flags [S],
> seq 292171178, win 8192, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 8,nop,nop,sackOK],
> length 0
> 11:19:16.369433 IP 192.168.10.40.60925 > 70.169.168.7.11443: Flags [S],
> seq 2666765817, win 8192, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale
> 8,nop,nop,sackOK], length 0
> >> 11:19:16.369502 IP 192.168.10.40.60924 > 192.168.10.100.11443: Flags
> [S], seq 292171178, win 8192, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale
> 8,nop,nop,sackOK], length 0
> >> 11:19:16.369511 IP 192.168.10.40.60925 > 192.168.10.100.11443: Flags
> [S], seq 2666765817, win 8192, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale
> 8,nop,nop,sackOK], length 0
>
> But since the gateway emitted the packet back on the wire *without*
> remapping the source address (to itself) it doesn't match on the client
> box 'cause there's no way back for it.
>
> There has to be a solution to this somewhere and I'm obviously missing
> it..... :)
>
> Setup DNS to return the internal address when a query is made from an
internal client.
I've never been able to do what you are trying, on a few different
platforms, I forget the reasons now.


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