Upcoming release schedule - 8.4 ?
Royce Williams
royce.williams at gmail.com
Thu Jun 14 05:26:10 UTC 2012
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian at freebsd.org> wrote:
> On 13 June 2012 21:26, Mark Linimon <linimon at lonesome.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 08:50:24AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>>> The only way that this would really work is if there were dedicated
>>> sustaining engineers working on actively backporting code, testing it,
>>> committing it, etc.
>>
>> I'm going to agree with Garrett here. IMHO we've reached (or surpassed)
>> the limit of what is reasonable to ask volunteers to commit their spare
>> time to. This is doubly true when we have more than one "stable" branch.
>
> I totally concur.
Ah, but you can get the same effect by freeing up those engineers to
work on the hard stuff.
This is my usual soapbox (see [1], [2]): Push more of the mundane
work out to the edges, so that the developers can focus more on the
core (like more releases/features/testing/projects).
Here are some ideas. Only developers can implement them, but they
would start paying for themselves immediately ... in developer time.
- Frequent snapshots, with tools to automatically apply them and roll
them back (freebsd-update + ZFS snapshots?).
- Tools to do binary walks of snapshots to pinpoint when a bug
appeared. (Think 'git bisect' + freebsd-update.)
- A taggable FAQ that supports faceted search, and a quick way to add
entries (or propose them for approval).
- A way to search for known fixes to transient bugs and hardware issues [1].
- General debugging and testing tools for non-developers, including
tools for filing smarter bug reports.
- A way to automatically upload crash dumps for bulk analysis (like
Windows does).
- A dmesg analyzer that downloads a list during install, and looks for
known issues (or workarounds) with your hardware for that version of
FreeBSD (or recommend a different version!).
Tools like these would also help more people achieve the "I tried it,
and it Just Worked" moment. This can keep people's interest long
enough to give FreeBSD a serious try. Some of them might enter the
volunteer pool.
I'm not a developer, but if some of the above could be tackled, they
might free up enough Developer Equivalents (DEs, a term which I have
just made up) to be more than worth the effort.
Royce
[1]. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2011-September/018865.html
[2]. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2012-January/037310.html
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