FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity,
feld at feld.me
Tue Jan 17 23:55:18 UTC 2012
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:25:12 -0600, Matthew D. Fuller
<fullermd at over-yonder.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 02:50:08PM -0600 I heard the voice of
> Mark Felder, and lo! it spake thus:
>> I've seen several other things hit -STABLE right after the freeze
>> ended early January which surprise me that they weren't included in
>> -RELEASE and we didn't have another RC.
> You mean the 9.0-RELEASE that's scheduled to be done (after having
> already slipped a month) at the beginning of Sept 2011? At some point
> (well before those add'l patches you're talking about, IMO) you have
> to STOP and release the damn thing already.
Yeah, but how much sense does it make to do a -RELEASE with critical bugs?
For example, gmultipath guarantees a panic on various hardware just by
breaking a path. This was fixed in a full rewrite discussed this summer
and publicized in November. Now anyone with shiny 9.0 (or even 8.2)
running gmultipath risks a panic. The fix IS the rewrite. But it's s total
rewrite and so patching that onto 9.0 as errata doesn't really make sense
(rewrite adds features too), so now the choices for a stable gmultipath is
-STABLE or patiently waiting for 9.1.
So yeah, 9.0 slipped hard. Perhaps it should have slipped a bit further
until blockers like gmultipath and the cdrom/CAM stuff were fully
addressed. But it's impossible to release 100% bug free software.... where
exactly *do* you draw the line? :-/
I certainly would not be better than anyone else at managing any portion
of this project. I'm just glad I have the ability to find and apply fixes
myself when necessary.
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