On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]
Doug Barton
dougb at FreeBSD.org
Thu Aug 2 16:37:10 UTC 2012
On 08/02/2012 09:20, Scott Long wrote:
>
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:23 AM, Kevin Oberman <kob6558 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Doug makes some good points.
>
> No, he doesn't.
Yes I do! (So there)
> He and Arnould being argumentative and accusatory
> where none of that is warranted.
>
> I used to run the devsummits, and we did tele-conference lines for
> remote people to participate.
I singled out BSDCAN specifically since that's "where the action is" for
the last several years. I do recall your efforts in this regard, but it
so happened that I was able to attend most of them in person back then.
No slight towards what you did was intended.
> After I stepped down, others took it
> up and did the same thing. Usually, the lines were unused. I
> suspect that organizers simply stopped thinking about them after a
> while because of poor interest. There is no conspiracy of exclusion
> here, just simple human apathy.
Here I have to disagree with you. Once again, speaking specifically
about BSDCAN dev summits, I repeatedly asked the organizers to provide
some sort of audio stream (phone, Internet, anything) and was repeatedly
told it wasn't possible. This was not a case of lack of interest. This
was a case of "We understand that it is something people want, but it
isn't going to happen."
> The invite system for the devsummit was, and still is, purely about
> providing some order to the process. It ensures that people
> attending are willing to demonstrate a minimum amount of interest,
> more than just wondering by a room one day and dropping in for free
> food and wifi.
I specifically made allowances for this issue in my post.
Doug
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I can do.
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