our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

Julian H. Stacey jhs at berklix.com
Tue Feb 2 22:36:49 UTC 2010


Kirk McKusick wrote:
> Thanks for the pointer. As you note, the damage (or benefit :-) is
> done. Still I have sent an email to the editor at Spiegel notifying
> them of my copyright in the hopes that they will at least ask in the
> future.
> 
> 	Kirk McKusick

Good idea.  You might want to contact authors of that PDF paper too.
In case, as my browser still is fails on URL I posted earlier:
	http://www.iseclab.org/papers/sonda-TR.pdf
I'll send you an off list copy of what I downloaded earlier
at 2nd Feb 18:14 TZ=GMT+01:00.

> =-=-=-=
> 
> From:    "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs at berklix.com>
> Date:    Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:30:29 +0100
> To:      Christoph Kukulies <kuku at kukulies.org>
> Subject: Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil 
> Cc:      freebsd-hackers at freebsd.org, Kirk McKusick <mckusick at mckusick.com>
> Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany
> 
> Christoph Kukulies wrote:
> > Look here:
> > 
> > http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-51396-2.html
> 
> ( Well spotted Christoph ! )
> For those that don't read German, tracing back,
> Text article starts here 
> 	http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,675395,00.html
> 
> That is in German, 
> 	(some might like a translator web, eg http://babelfish.org )
> 	I did read the german article (but skipped graphics).
> 
> Key paragraph:
> 	Es ist ein Horrorszenario für Datenschützer, was Thorsten
> 	Holz, Gilbert Wondracek, Engin Kirda und Christopher Kruegel
> 	in ihrem 15-seitigen Aufsatz beschreiben ( PDF-Datei hier,
> 	803 KB): Die Experten vom Isec-Forschungslabor für
> 	IT-Sicherheit, einer Kooperation der Technischen Universität
> 	Wien, dem Institute Eurcom und der University of California,
> 	dokumentieren einen technisch eher simplen Angriff, der
> 	eine seit zehn Jahren bekannte Sicherheitslücke ausnutzt.
> 
> In key para there I could click & download
> 	sonda-TR.pdf
> (though now I can't seem to redownload
> 	http://www.iseclab.org/papers/sonda-TR.pdf	)
> A 15 page article in Engish.
> 	Page 4 uses the Firefox & BSD logos.
> 
> I havent read that English [yet],  but with it, any interested here
> can now read & form own opinions if it seems fair to use the Daemon
> logo, especially cc'd copyright holder of BSD daemon holder:
> 	Kirk McKusick <mckusick at mckusick.com>
> 
> IMO The German article by weekly magazine Spiegel.de didnt really seem 
> to have anything to do with BSD, they just copied the graphics.
> 
> Personaly my 2c:
>   Initial reaction was I'd be a happier if a generic PC graphic had
>   been used in the spiegel.de web, but maybe its the price of fame,
>   I guess tests were done using BSD, & Spiegel thought it was nice
>   colourful graphic.  (Politicians never looked good on British TV
>   Spitting Image programme, but they learnt it was better to look
>   bad there, & be talked about, than not seen, not recognised &
>   ignored).

Cheers,
Julian
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