FreeBSD jobs

[Alfred Perlstein]

> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Julian Stacey <jhs at berklix.org> wrote:
> > Hi hackers@
> > A commercial firm asked for _Free_ labour today on jobs at freebsd.
> > The censors passed it.  Censors of jobs at freebsd.org then blocked
> > the posting below.  jobs@ censors again bad, block wrong things,
> > should all be removed & not replaced.
> >
> > Several suckers have already enquired to that firm.  Hope we might get
> > some Free labour to donate time to Freebsd, Not Stock holders !
> 
> Hi Julian,
> 
> Internships are an accepted way for a high school or university
> student (and nowadays some post grad students and others) to gain a
> bit of experience in their field before joining the work force or
> perhaps while switching careers. At my company, we've filled several
> full-time positions with people that were interns first. It's just a
> way to fill a part-time, sometimes non-paid job, at a company where
> there isn't an official requisition for that particular position.
> Nobody is forcing anybody to take the internship and it is clearly
> stated that it is a non-paid internship in the post.
> 
> I imagine that there would be some interested students or unemployed
> people that would love to work with Alfred on a project at Juniper a
> few hours a week in their spare time, for free. It will look great on
> a resume, they will probably learn some valuable skills, and perhaps
> parlay it into a full-time, paid position.
> 
> best,
> -matt

Thanks Matt, this is my only intention.

A few of the candidates I've spoken too are very excited to get
something on their resume with a commercial entity and there is the
hope that I may be able to hire one on them in the future.

I've also promised the candidates that they will have access to
some amazing resources within Juniper if (I can manage it) and at the
very least I can mentor them on any FreeBSD endeavors they take on
for the other non-2 hours per-day they would be working for me.

While I would love to see more students working on FreeBSD, the
fact of the matter is that some students already have worked on
FreeBSD and would like commercial experience of "worked on a team
in an office environment" that is challenging to mimic in our
(FreeBSD's) distributed ways.

At the end of the day, what FreeBSD-jobs is supposed to be is a
place where jobs can be posted and found that will enable a FreeBSD
fan to find suitable employment opportunities for a career, or
to advance their career.

The reason for moderation of FreeBSD-jobs is to prevent people such
as Julian turning a well intentioned message into a thread of
flames because he's gone imbalanced due to lack of coffee some
morning.

Effectively it's been a pretty swell system, FreeBSD-jobs has 0
spam (except to the poor moderators) and also insulated job seekers
and posters from the typical hecklers who feel the need for extremely
abusive emails due to some real or perceived mistake by the recruiter
or job-seeker.

I honestly feel that we've even saved plenty of people embarrassment
by blocking or bouncing messages that they may have sent in haste
to freebsd-jobs that after cooling off realized "the Internet is
forever, why in g-d's name did I send something so mean with my
name on it?!?".

It's a shame it doesn't work for cross-list posts. 

I'm proud to be one of the moderators on FreeBSD-jobs, but I do
admit most of the work is done by the other moderators.

Thanks again Matt.  I'm going to have to pick your brain later about
how to deal with interns, care, feeding, hats? :)

And Julian, chill out, I still cringe from embarrassment when someone
drags out some old email _I_ sent with close to the  same tone as
the ones I've been seeing from you.  Best of luck.

-Alfred