general Darwin imports (was Re: Darwin cmd import?)

Michael W. Lucas mwlucas at
Sat Jun 5 05:58:19 PDT 2004

On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 09:59:15PM +1000, Edwin Groothuis wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 09:57:57AM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote:
> > People may gripe about Apple not returning stuff to the open source
> > community.  The truth is, they have.  They aren't responsible for
> > converting what they return into a format we can use, but they haven't
> > deliberately obfuscated their code.  Sorting out the diffs would be a
> > pain, but not horribly difficult.
> > 
> > According to Jordan Hubbard, the best source of low-hanging fruit is
> > their modified libc.  They've had people work out all sorts of bugs,
> > clean up functions, performance improvements, etc.  Libc changes
> > require extensive testing.  They also have wide-reaching benefits.
> > It's still BSDL'd, so we can take back whatever we want.
> Now the question of course is: where can I find it? It is somewhere
> in a CVS repository (that would be nicest), or are it raw sourcefiles
> only?

The URL of the source was referenced earlier in this thread, IIRC.

> Edwin, now owning a Mac so not really familiar with things

Neither am I.

You might check out the web site and see what they have
to say on the issue.  I suspect if you asked on their mailing list and
said you wanted to start bringing stuff back to FreeBSD, they'd be
happy to give you all the pointers you need.


Michael Lucas		mwlucas at, mwlucas at
   "I'm sorry, but 'Social Darwinism' is no excuse for killing all of 
	           your co-workers."  -- Ivan Brunetti

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