http://www.flashbackalternatives.com I'm sure it is the java crashing the browser, but it works fine with Epiphany & Galeon. Can others check to see if they have the same problem. Thanks. Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.2, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2007 mozilla.org java version "1.5.0-p4" -- Scott T. Hildreth <shild at sbcglobal.net>