Long delays in Gnome2 start up

[Stacey Roberts]

Hi Mezz,

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Messenger <mezz7 at cox.net>"
To: To Stacey Roberts
Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 22:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up

> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:26:43 +0000, Stacey Roberts 
> <stacey at vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> 
> >Hi Mezz.,
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jeremy Messenger <mezz7 at cox.net>"
> >To: To Stacey Roberts
> >Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 22:05 GMT
> >Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up
> >
> >>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:39:45 +0000, Stacey Roberts
> >><stacey at vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi Mezz.,
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Jeremy Messenger <mezz7 at cox.net>"
> >>>To: To Stacey Roberts
> >>>Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 21:29 GMT
> >>>Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up
> >>>
> >>>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:17:03 +0000, Stacey Roberts
> >>>><stacey at vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hello Mezz..,
> >>>>>      Thanks for the reply.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>From: "Jeremy Messenger <mezz7 at cox.net>"
> >>>>>To: To stacey at vickiandstacey.com
> >>>>>Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 19:53 GMT
> >>>>>Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Try to create a new dummy user like tester to see if your GNOME will
> >>>>>>startup faster. If so, then there are something wrong in one of in
> >>>>your
> >>>>>>personal directory like ~/.gnome2, ~/.gconf and etc. You can remove
> >>>>>>these
> >>>>>>directories on your normal user and let GNOME to startup fresh.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>No need to, I already have a spare user on the box to use for this. 
> >>As
> >>>>I
> >>>>>suspected, logging in with that other user results in a fast Gnome2
> >>>>>startup.
> >>>>
> >>>>A spare user with no GNOME personal directories? Do you mean, it does
> >>>>login faster on the spare user?
> >>>
> >>>Yes. I often create two users that I can use, but only use one. I've
> >>>never had the need to use any other than my primary user, so when this
> >>>problem started last night I figured on checking to see if it happens
> >>>for everyone (including root).
> >>>
> >>>As things turned out, both root and the other (spare) user can log in
> >>>fine.
> >>>
> >>>Thought I should also mention that for my primary user (the account for
> >>>whom the delays occur), I'd already tried the following: -
> >>>
> >>>1] rm -rf .g*
> >>>2] rm -rf .esd*
> >>>3] Ran startx
> >>>4] Gnome2 starts fine
> >>>5] Do nothing
> >>>6] Log off
> >>>7] Run startx again
> >>>8] Long delay in Gnome2 startup
> >>>
> >>>I've done that procedure about four times now, just to make sure I
> >>>wasn't going crazy.
> >>
> >>Umm, if it works fine on root and other users then it must be problem
> >>somewhere in your primary user. So, if you reinstall GNOME and you might
> >>still have the same problem. :-) Can you try do the full one? Like this:
> >>
> >>rm -rf .ICE* .Trash .Xauth* .gconf* .gnome* .gtk* .esd* .fonts.cache-1
> >>.meta* .nau* .recent* .thumb* .xscreen*
> >
> >Oh.., I didn't try removing those..,
> >
> >>
> >>Also, there have few stuff in the /var/tmp/ like this:
> >>
> >>gconfd-${user} mapping-${user} orbit-${user}
> >>
> >>So, change from ${user} to your primary user then try to remove them. I
> >>don't know if it will help, but I think it's a worth shot. Also, be sure
> >>to check in the top or ps to make sure one of GNOME's app exit correct
> >>before you try to do the startx again. This is my last suggest what I 
> >>can
> >>think of, before you want to reinstall GNOME.
> >
> >Okay.., check me on this please.., just so I know that I follow: -
> >
> >Here's how I see your instructions set:
> >
> >a] Log off Gnome2
> >b] run top / ps to verify that all Gnome2 apps have exited cleanly (kill 
> >off any lingering Gnome2 apps still appearing in top / ps)
> >c] Run rm -rf for .ICE*, .Trash, .Xauth*, .gconf*, .gnome*, .gtk*, 
> >.esd*, .fonts.cache-1, .meta*, .nau*, .recent*, .thumb*, & .xscree*
> >d] Run rm -rf for any instances for gconfd-stacey, mapping-stacey & 
> >orbit-stacey in /var/tmp
> >e] Run startx
> >
> >Let me know if I've got that procedure correct, please.
> 
> Yeah, it looks fine.

Okay.., did all that (a to e)
Ran startx
Splash screen thingy started only after 3 seconds
Delay of about 30 seconds before the various components stuff appears across the Splash screen thingy
Gnome2 starts up
Virgin Gnome2 desktop loads
Waited for about 30 seconds
Clicked on Actions, Log Out
Screen locks for 2 minutes
The "Are you sure you want to log out?" dialogue box appears
Clicked "Yes" (without selecting box to save settings)
Gnome2 logs out

Here's what I've seen on console:

(nautilus:84885): Bonobo-CRITICAL **: file bonobo-control-frame.c: line 720 (bonobo_control_frame_set_ui_container): assertion `frame->priv->activated == FALSE' failed

** (nautilus:845885): WARNING **: destroyed file still being monitored

(repeated four times)

(nautilus:84885): Bonobo-WARNING **: Leaked a total of 1 refs to 1 bonobo object(s)

Ran startx again
Gnome2 loads nice and quick
Set background
Clicked on Actions, Log out
Desktop locked up for 1 min 40 seconds
The "Are you sure you want to log out" dialogue box appears
I ticked the "Save current set up" check box
Clicked "Okay"
Gnome2 exits
That set of "bonobo-related" messages are on the console
Ran startx
Gnome2 starts nice and fast
Set up some "Sound preferences": -
Enable sound server startup & Sounds for events
Clicked on "Sound Events" tab
Under "User interface menus" I highlight "Choose menu item"
Clicked on "Browse"
Desktop locked up for 2 mins 33 seconds before the "Select sound file" box appears
I select "activate.wav", and clicked "Okay"
Selecting other sound events after this runs a lot faster
Closed the "Sound preferences" application
Clicked on Actions, Log out, No screen lockups, "Are you sure you want to log out" dialogue box appears immediately.
I check the "Save current setup" checkbox
Clicked "Okay"
Gnome2 exits immediately
Set of "bonobo-related" messages are back on console
Waited a few (30) seconds
Ran startx
Delay of 2 mins 55 seconds before the splash screen thingy appears
Gnome2 quickly loads thereafter
Waited for 10 seconds (did nothing)
Logged out
Gnome2 exits immediately
Ran startx again
Delay of 3 mins 5 seconds before the splash screen thingy appears
Gnome2 loads immediately after
Sound events work, by the way :-(

What's going on?

Regards,

Stacey


> 
> Cheers,
> Mezz
> 
> >Thanks again.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Stacey
> >
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Mezz
> >>
> >>>Thanks for the reply, by the way.
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>
> >>>Stacey
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers,
> >>>>Mezz
> >>>>
> >>>>>>One more thing, make sure your hostname is working. X will startup
> >>>>very
> >>>>>>slow if you don't have the correct hostname. IE: fix the /etc/hosts 
> >>by
> >>>>>>add
> >>>>>>your hostname in it point on 127.0.0.1.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>This is not a problem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>What *has* become a problem that I've noticed as well, is the fact 
> >>that
> >>>>>even attempting to log out of Gnome2 takes almost 5 minutes now too.
> >>>>>This is the time from clicking on "Actions", "Log Out".., desktop 
> >>locks
> >>>>>up.., five minutes later, the confirmation dialogue box appears.
> >>>>>Clicking on "Okay", results in the log out then proceeding as per
> >>>>normal.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>BTW: reinstall apps aren't always a solution.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>One would think that, but at the end of the day, I'm inclined to
> >>>>>reinstall something that's broken, rather than work with something 
> >>that
> >>>>>was "hacked back together". The fact that this machine was up and
> >>>>>running well after the reinstall of Gnome back in 2002.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks again for taking the time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Stacey
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>Mezz
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 01:07:05 +0000, Stacey Roberts
> >>>>>><stacey at vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hello,
> >>>>>>>     I've just had a strangely familiar problem re-occur with me
> >>>>>>>tonight.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>For some reason, when I try to start gnome2 (with startx) there is 
> >>a
> >>>>>>>very long delay before the splash thingy appears - almost 4 
> >>minutes.
> >>>>I
> >>>>>>>mentioned familiar for the simple reason that this exact problem
> >>>>>>>happened to me a couple of years ago, whilst I was running 
> >>Gnome-1.2
> >>>>(I
> >>>>>>>think).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The short story of the eventual fix for me then was to reinstall
> >>>>Gnome.
> >>>>>>>I am now wondering if anyone is able to help me with this problem 
> >>now
> >>>>>>>appearing now that I'm running Gnome-2.4.2.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I'll include what details I think are relevant here, but if there's
> >>>>any
> >>>>>>>information I can add, please let me know.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>><snip>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Like I said, if there's anything else I can offer, then let me 
> >>know.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Stacey
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz.
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz.
> 
> 
> -- 
> bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz.
> 

-- 
Stacey Roberts
B. Sc (HONS) Computer Science

Web: www.vickiandstacey.com
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