The GNOME meta-port

Joe Marcus Clarke marcus at FreeBSD.org
Mon Nov 3 15:09:39 PST 2003


On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 12:33, Jens Rehsack wrote:

[My soapbox elided]

> Ok, I can follow you so far, but:
> I don't think the only instant-workstation could be a kde one.
> Ok, I was slightly advanced to FreeBSD when I decided to install it
> on my desktop, but eg. people coming from OS/2 will feel more like
> home on a GNOME desktop. So an instant-gnome-workstation and a move
> of instant-workstation to instant-kde-workstation is not impossible
> (and would make sense, maybe). But it's on another discussion.
> 
> And greg's opinion to what's belonging to a meta-port or not
> is very interesting. He didn't update his instant-server, even
> squid-2.5 became the STABLE-release.
> 
> What I'm trying to say: meta-ports are fine and great for easy use,
> but the users should have the chance to request changes to the
> default. In the case of x11/gnome2 they had to ask the gnome
> developers, 'cause the defauls came from there. But if it's a
> freebsd own meta-port (as instant-workstation is), the freebsd users
> should have a chance to request for changes. So, x11/gnome2 and
> misc/instant-workstation aren't fair comparable.

I think you'll find it as difficult to convince Greg to modify his
meta-port as it would be to convince GNOME ;-).

> 
> > My point is that meta-ports are geared more toward newbies.  Advanced
> > users can bypass the meta-port, and install only the bits they want. 
> > Really advanced users (or admins doing bulk installations) can build
> > their own meta-ports to easy the task of reinstallation.
> 
> Maybe a message should be added to such meta-ports which says:
> This is a default meta-port which is for generic use only.
> If you want to customize your workstation, you should create
> your own one by copying this meta-port into
> ports/local/your-own-meta-port and modify whatever you want.
> 
> Ok, not in this words, but maybe this could really make sense to
> a) avoid future discussions like this (because the submitter
>     disn't search for the right words in the archives), and
> b) it's just an instruction for users which will become
>     more advanced of what to do.

I like this idea.  Perhaps this is something that should go into the FAQ
as well.  Are you volunteering to write something up?

Joe

> 
> > Marcus
> 
> Regards,
> Jens
> 
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Joe Marcus Clarke
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