I'm out of here...

[Jeremy Messenger]

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:02:00 +0200, Martin Klaffenboeck 
<martin.klaffenboeck at gmx.at> wrote:

> Am 2003.08.12 10:58 schrieb(en) Franz Klammer:
>> Am Di, 2003-08-12 um 00.20 schrieb Jeremy Messenger:
>> > On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:42:42 +0200, Martin Klaffenboeck
>> > <martin.klaffenboeck at gmx.at> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > > (Please cc me, I'm not on the list anymore.)
>> > >
>> > > I was maintaining about 9 ports in the FreeBSD ports collection,
>> and I
>> > > was starting the gports project (http://gports.sourceforge.net).
>> > >
>> > > But now I have changed back to linux after using FreeBSD on my
>> desktop
>> > > for about two years.  It was a great time here, the hardest thing
>> to quit
>> > > with FreeBSD is not the OS itselfe, the hard thing is to say good
>> by to
>> > > all my friends in the mailling lists and chatrooms, which are
>> using
>> > > FreeBSD.  The community is quite good, and I don't know how long
>> it will
>> > > take to get new friends in the linux community.  I hope there will
>> come
>> > > some nice guys like you.  (Esspecially Joe and Franz, but the
>> others
>> > > too.)
>> >
>> > May I ask you what it makes you switch over to Linux? I am just
>> curious..
>> > :-)
>> >
>>
>> Bye Martin! Thanks for the nice words. :-)
>> But i'm also interested why you are doing a so extreme
>> switch-over to Linux only.
>
> Yes, I think there is no real rational reason, and I cannot say, I have 
> made this decision because of advantages or disadvantages from the one or 
> other OS.
>
> The main thing could be, that I also want to play on my computer some 
> computer games.  I couln't get the nvidia-driver working on FreeBSD, 
> without any crashes.  There are more games available on linux I found 
> out, and porting new games to FreeBSD was a thing I found really hard, 
> because this sources are often not very portable.  Now I don't have to 
> port things.

Yeah, I still have the problem with the Nvidia driver in 5.1-CURRENT too.. 
Before, in 4.x, 5.0-RELEASE and old 5.0-CURRENT, the Nvidia driver (both 
old and new driver) used to work and now not work anymore in the 5.1- 
CURRENT. I had to do the strange method (incorrect and non-standard) by 
compile it with Nvidia AGP GART driver and force X to load the FreeBSD AGP 
GART driver to make it doesn't crash anymore. It hurts the 50% of 
perforamce, but as long it's faster than 'nv' and has the more support for 
xv and etc.

> On FreeBSD I couln't get rid of the linux emulation, (because only the 
> linuxflashplayer for galeon worked, and it needed a wrapper there). You 
> may say:  Who cares about that! But it's just that I don't liked it.

Me too, I can't get rid of Linux emulation because of Opera and few others 
(no game stuff).. It's much more stable than native one, but Opera recently 
released a new 7.20 beta for FreeBSD and I haven't tried it yet.

> Then I started to test gentoo linux, a few weeks ago.  The first thing I 
> saw was:  The computer starts faster.  My computer is a workstation, so 
> this is good.  And the computer runs faster.  Ok, this is wrong.  But the 
> user can have the feeling that the computer runs faster (especial while 
> using the gnome frontend, I didn't test kde so far), and people told me, 
> this is because the linux scheduler is cheating.  It runs the current 
> visible things first, so it looks like it is faster, but it isn't really.
>
> What I miss is, that gentoo doesn't support the gnome 2.3 deveoper branch 
> (see the marcuscom portstree), so I'm working in 2.2 here.  But I found 
> out, that this is not really a big problem for me right now.

But, there has Gnome 2.3 development if you visit to www.breakmygentoo.net 
.. One of my friend is in Gnome 2.3 ebuild team and no I don't use Linux, 
but I visit to Gentoo forum. ;-)

> I could talk on and on, why I decided for gentoo, but I think most of 
> this things weren't in my mind when I was switching.  What I think about 
> my self I could explain in german with the word 'Tapetenwechsel'. (For 
> people who don't speak german, my dictionary translates this as 'change 
> of scene').
>
> What do you think, when you hear my telling you this?

I think, you have gave us the good reasons and points. Thanks and good luck 
in the Linux world!

Cheers,
Mezz

>> Anyway ... good luck with you new OS-way of living ;-)
>
> Thanks,  I'm not as good as I was in using FreeBSD, but it makes fun to 
> practise and learn.
>
> Martin
>
>> Franz.
>>
>> > Cheers,
>> > Mezz
>> >
>> > > Good bye people.
>> > >
>> > > I'll miss you somehow.
>> > >
>> > > Yours,
>> > > Martin
>> > >
>> > > PS.  Please take over the maintainership of my ports, some will go
>> to
>> > > gnome@, some to ports at .  Martin Grimme told me, that it would be
>> nice if
>> > > someone could take over the gdeskcal port for FreeBSD.  Write him
>> an
>> > > email (mailto:martin at pycage.de) to put you into his announcement
>> list.
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