devfs and hot unplugging firewire device

John-Mark Gurney gurney_j at
Wed Sep 20 21:03:59 PDT 2006

Eric Anderson wrote this message on Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 21:57 -0500:
> On 09/20/06 15:16, M. L. Dodson wrote:
> >On Wednesday 20 September 2006 14:42, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> >>M. L. Dodson wrote this message on Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 14:14 -0500:
> >>>More experimental results on firewire disks and hot unplugging:
> >>>
> >>>Transcripts of two sessions can be retrieved from
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>doh, I think I know what your problem is...  you need to do three
> >>or so fwcontrol -r's before the device will disappear...  This is
> >>necessary, since each plug causes a rescan, and you don't want devices
> >>disappearing when you add your cd drive...  It looks like adding a
> >>timeout would be a good thing to the device orphan...  If the device
> >>has been orphaned for more than a minute, drop it, or three or so
> >>resets...
> >
> >That worked.  Thanks again!
> It's too bad firewire doesn't act more like USB storage in this case - 
> you can yank and plug in the same or similar storage using the same 
> adapter many many times without issue - I've done this many times.

USB is a tree w/ hubs... If you have a chain of devices, and need to
pull one in the middle, you'd loose the end devices if firewire
behaved this way...

/me notes that each have their advantages and disadvantages.

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