docs/156187: Add bsnmpd to handbook

Mark Meyer ofosos at googlemail.com
Wed Apr 6 08:40:06 UTC 2011


The following reply was made to PR docs/156187; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Mark Meyer <ofosos at googlemail.com>
To: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk at mit.edu>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit at freebsd.org, freebsd-doc at freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/156187: Add bsnmpd to handbook
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 10:01:45 +0200

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 Thanks for your comments. I attached a revised patch. See below.
 
 2011/4/6 Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk at mit.edu>
 >
 >
 > It's not clear that the ordinality of the installation is relevant.
 
 
 It is not relevant.
 
 
 > I think "the default configuration is runnable" is more clear.
 >
 
 I don't want to overuse 'default', otherwise changed.
 
 
 > I have a general preference for "everyone" over "everybody" that I cannot
 > really justify to this audience and will refrain from noting all
 > occurrences.  However, here I think "anyone" or "everyone" is preferable.
 >
 
 I prefer to follow you there.
 
 
 >  +       guess it, will be able to read from your systems management
 >>
 >
 > no comma.
 >
 
 Fixed.
 
 
 >  +       data.  The community will however be transferred in plain text
 >>
 >> +       over the wire, thus potentially leaking an otherwise secure
 >> +       password to an attacker.</para></note>
 >>
 >
 > "thus" is perhaps spurious; the whole sentence could probably be reworded
 > to make it more clear that valuable passwords should not be used as they are
 > sent in cleartext.
 
 
 Now reads: " Choose the community string wisely.  Everyone able to guess it
 will be able to read from your systems management data.  The community
 string is transferred in cleartext over the network, potentially leaking a
 valuable password to an attacker."
 
 Express that the user doesn't want to use the very weak "public", or his/her
 valuable user credentials. Do you have an opinion about starting the third
 sentence with "But"?
 
 "enable"
 
 
 Done.
 
 Can you reword to avoid the awkwardness of treating the screenshot as part
 > of the sentence?
 
 
 "Start bsnmpd:"
 
 Do you have a preference to end the sentence preceding the <screen> in a
 full stop or in a colon?
 
 +      <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>/etc/rc.d/bsnmpd
 >> start</userinput></screen>
 >> +
 >> +      <para>will start <application>bsnmpd</application>
 >> +       immediately. To test your setup, run
 >> +       an <application>bsnmpget</application> from the machine you
 >> +       installed on.</para>
 >>
 >
 > "machine you installed on" is a somewhat awkward phrase.
 
 
 I used "your system" elsewhere. The idea that you're doing this locally
 should be evident.
 
 
 >  +
 >> +      <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>/usr/local/bin/bsnmpget -s
 >> superprivate at localhost sysContact</userinput>
 >> +sysContact.0 = sysmeister at example.com</screen>
 >> +
 >> +      <para>The command should dump the value you entered in your
 >>
 >
 > s/dump/print/, I think (having not tried running the command)
 
 
 Changed.
 
 
 >  +       configuration.</para>
 >>
 >
 > Maybe name bsnmpd.config explicitly?
 >
 
 Done.
 
 Other changes: some markup, removed the word "now" preceding instructions
 (superfluous).
 
 - Mark
 
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 Thanks for your comments. I attached a revised patch. See below.<br><br><di=
 v class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/4/6 Benjamin Kaduk <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a hr=
 ef=3D"mailto:kaduk at mit.edu">kaduk at mit.edu</a>></span><blockquote class=
 =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
 ing-left:1ex;">
 <div><div class=3D"h5">
 <br></div></div>
 It's not clear that the ordinality of the installation is relevant.</bl=
 ockquote><div><br></div><div>It is not relevant.</div><div>=A0</div><blockq=
 uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
 solid;padding-left:1ex;">
 
 I think "the default configuration is runnable" is more clear.<br=
 ></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't want to overuse 'default&=
 #39;, otherwise changed.=A0</div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
 uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
 x;">
 
 I have a general preference for "everyone" over "everybody&q=
 uot; that I cannot really justify to this audience and will refrain from no=
 ting all occurrences. =A0However, here I think "anyone" or "=
 everyone" is preferable.<br>
 </blockquote><div><br></div><div>I prefer to follow you there.</div><div>=
 =A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
 r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
 <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
 x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 + =A0 =A0 =A0 guess it, will be able to read from your systems management<b=
 r>
 </blockquote>
 <br>
 no comma.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Fixed.=A0</div><div>=A0</div>=
 <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
 x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
 <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
 x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 + =A0 =A0 =A0 data. =A0The community will however be transferred in plain t=
 ext<div class=3D"im"><br>
 + =A0 =A0 =A0 over the wire, thus potentially leaking an otherwise secure<b=
 r>
 + =A0 =A0 =A0 password to an attacker.</para></note><br>
 </div></blockquote>
 <br>
 "thus" is perhaps spurious; the whole sentence could probably be =
 reworded to make it more clear that valuable passwords should not be used a=
 s they are sent in cleartext.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Now reads: &q=
 uot;=A0Choose the community string wisely. =A0Everyone able to guess it wil=
 l be able to read from your systems management<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span=
 " style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>data. =A0The community string is transf=
 erred in cleartext over=A0the network, potentially leaking a valuable passw=
 ord to an=A0attacker."</div>
 <div><br></div><div>Express that the user doesn't want to use the very =
 weak "public", or his/her valuable user credentials. Do you have =
 an opinion about starting the third sentence with "But"?</div>
 <div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
 ;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
 "enable"</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Done.</div><div><br></di=
 v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
 1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
 Can you reword to avoid the awkwardness of treating the screenshot as part =
 of the sentence?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>"Start bsnmpd:"<=
 /div><div><br></div><div>Do you have a preference to end the sentence prece=
 ding the <screen> in a full stop or in a colon?</div>
 <div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
 ;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im"><blockquot=
 e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
 id;padding-left:1ex">
 
 + =A0 =A0 =A0<screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>/etc/rc.d/bsn=
 mpd start</userinput></screen><br>
 +<br>
 + =A0 =A0 =A0<para>will start <application>bsnmpd</applicati=
 on><br>
 + =A0 =A0 =A0 immediately. To test your setup, run<br>
 + =A0 =A0 =A0 an <application>bsnmpget</application> from the m=
 achine you<br>
 + =A0 =A0 =A0 installed on.</para><br>
 </blockquote>
 <br></div>
 "machine you installed on" is a somewhat awkward phrase.</blockqu=
 ote><div><br></div><div>I used "your system" elsewhere. The idea =
 that you're doing this locally should be evident.</div><div>=A0</div>
 <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
 x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im">
 <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
 x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 +<br>
 + =A0 =A0 =A0<screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>/usr/local/bi=
 n/bsnmpget -s superprivate at localhost sysContact</userinput><br>
 +sysContact.0 =3D <a href=3D"mailto:sysmeister at example.com" target=3D"_blan=
 k">sysmeister at example.com</a></screen><br>
 +<br>
 + =A0 =A0 =A0<para>The command should dump the value you entered in y=
 our<br>
 </blockquote>
 <br></div>
 s/dump/print/, I think (having not tried running the command)</blockquote><=
 div><br></div><div>Changed.</div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
 uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
 x;">
 
 <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
 x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 + =A0 =A0 =A0 configuration.</para><br>
 </blockquote>
 <br>
 Maybe name bsnmpd.config explicitly?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Do=
 ne.</div><div>=A0</div><div>Other changes: some markup, removed the word &q=
 uot;now" preceding instructions (superfluous).</div><div><br></div>
 <div>- Mark</div></div>
 
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