Cutting edge -> Upgrading

Tom Rhodes trhodes at FreeBSD.org
Sat Dec 20 00:29:57 UTC 2008


On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:15:14 +0200
Manolis Kiagias <sonic2000gr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:07:34 +0200
> > Manolis Kiagias <sonic2000gr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Tom Rhodes wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Hi Murray, Manolis,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:35:51 -0800
> >>> "Murray Stokely" <murray at stokely.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Manolis Kiagias <sonic2000gr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>> If these chapters are merged, I think we will have to rethink the "The
> >>>>> Cutting Edge" title. The title is by itself intimidating for the
> >>>>> beginning-intermediate user who is already convinced it is best for him
> >>>>> to use "RELEASE" until he is comfortable with the system. And using
> >>>>> freebsd-update is essential (and a rather easy task) at any user level.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How about changing the chapter to something like "Updating and Upgrading
> >>>>> FreeBSD"?
> >>>>> The first sections could deal with security updates and minor / major
> >>>>> version upgrades using freebsd-update.
> >>>>> Later sections could deal with -STABLE and -CURRENT
> >>>>> It would probably need more than a few rewrites and reorganization though
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> Yea I think this sounds good.  Tom, can you include a link to the HTML
> >>>> with your next diff -- I find it easier to review big reorganizations
> >>>> in the built html form rather than the diffs.
> >>>>
> >>>> If there is really just too much content for one chapter then maybe
> >>>> the updating and upgrading chapter could still be split into two
> >>>> adjacent chapters -- one for the basics of updrading between releases
> >>>> with mergemaster and such, and a second with more complicated source
> >>>> upgrades to -CURRENT.
> >>>>
> >>>>           - Murray
> >>>>
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> Apologies for this tardy reply, but I've recently come down
> >>> with some kind of a bug.  Anyway, this is what I have right now:
> >>>
> >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~trhodes/doc/latest-handbook.diff
> >>>
> >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~trhodes/doc/handbook/
> >>>
> >>> The diff contains my Updating chapter placed above the current
> >>> cutting-edge content along with some alterations to make the
> >>> documentation flow a bit.  Surely another update or two will
> >>> be needed to perfect this version, but I think it looks pretty
> >>> decent as it is now.
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Thanks Tom, this is more or less what I had in mind for the
> >> updating-upgrading chapter :)
> >> Having read the synopsis, I feel we need to change it a bit so it
> >> matches more closely the updated content.
> >> Something like this:
> >>
> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~manolis/updating-upgrading.html#UPDATING-UPGRADING-SYNOPSIS
> >>
> >> and the patch:
> >>
> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~manolis/cutting-edge.txt
> >>
> >> Basically this rephrases the original <para> a bit, and also reorders
> >> the itemized list to more or less match the order the info is presented
> >> in the chapter. Feel free to change it as you see fit ;)
> >>     
> >
> > This version of the patch has been applied to my try, and
> > integrated with the latest changes done by Murray today.
> >
> > The latest patch and build handbook version is up here:
> >
> > http://people.FreeBSD.org/~trhodes/doc
> >
> > Please let me know how you feel about it.  Other than the
> > directory name issue (cutting edge v. updating-upgrading), I
> > think it's pretty nice.  We should consider moving forward
> > should no one object.  Thanks,
> >
> >   
> 
> Yes, it looks fine to me.
> As a final touch, maybe it would be nice to change the title of section
> 24.4 from:
> 
> 24.4 FreeBSD-CURRENT vs. FreeBSD-STABLE
> 
> to
> 
> 24.4 Tracking a Development Branch
> 
> I think this flows better now that the chapter does not exclusively deal
> with CURRENT and STABLE.

Actually sounds rather nice, updated in my local patch.  Let
me run around with Giorgos a bit here and I'll have a
new handbook and diff posted.  Thanks,

-- 
Tom Rhodes



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