DDB patches
dan_partelly
dan_partelly at rdsor.ro
Thu Nov 19 15:33:11 UTC 2015
Hi Pedro,
Sure, no worries , I am grateful for all you did, couldn't ask for more.
I have yet no idea how the projects works, but in the thread in which I
questioned the wisdom of having
utilities in base spitting out JSON -- instead of properly libyifing some
utilities -- Adrian has
stated something which I perceived to be on the line "everybody talks,
noone codes". So I expressed
my willingness to participate to libifing some utilities from base, but ,
understandingly I hope,
I want to see how this process goes with code which already existed ,
before investing time in created new code
So once again, I thank you !
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:08:57 -0500, Pedro Giffuni <pfg at freebsd.org> wrote:
>> Il giorno 19/nov/2015, alle ore 04:57, Dan Partelly
>> <dan_partelly at rdsor.ro> ha scritto:
>>
>> Hey Pedro,
>>
>> Thanks a lot , mate.
>>
>> I’m reluctant to put it up as a PR, since some PR are outstanding for
>> years.
>>
>
> Well, that’s the way the project works: you cannot really depend on me,
or
> anyone else keeping old patches around. If you want a record of your
> submission bugzilla is the place to keep it. And of course there is no
> guarantee
> anyone will look at it but your chances are much better in bugzilla than
> in a mailinglist.
>
>
>
>> Adrian,
>>
>> since Pedro has issue with hardware, could you try the patch and give a
>> resolution on it ? I reviewed it mentally (no FreeBSD atm machine on
>> which I could actually patch the kernel) and apart style changes it
>> looks OK . Physically i can test it again fro a couple of days.
>
> Mental reviews don’t count much: if you are not running FreeBSD and
> standing
> behind your patch the chances of being taking seriously are slim.
>
>
>> Getting this reviewed & tested / committed or rejected would give me
an
>> idea on how things actually work around here. This is actual code
which
>> you can commit or reject not commentaries only like in the thread
>> regarding the binary code reuse.
>>
>>
>
> I recall you stated the patch was “not ready” when you posted it. I
> haven’t really
> done anything to say it is ready. Unless someone else finds time to do
real
> testing it won’t happen.
>
> Adrian tends to do some particularly valuable contributions to the
> project. I
> would prefer if he spends his time on more important tasks.
>
>> [qute from libxo thread ]
>>>> It's all fine and good making technical decisions based on drawings
>>>> and handwaving and philosophizing, but at some point someone has to
do
>>>> the code.
>>>> The reason is simple - someone offered to do the work and push it
>>>> through. This isn't a commercial thing where we get to make project
>>>> >>decisions and allocate resources - the juniper folk came up with a
>>>> solution that
>>
>> Once I see how things work around here once someone wrote the code,
>> and get this done one way or another , we could proceed to the
>> libification of ifconfig, should you so desire, and you believe we can
>> all benefit from it.
>>
>
> Wrong approach. You can’t really blackmail someone into taking your
> changes.
>
> Things work like this:
>
> - You discuss your idea and try to get some consensus in the
> lists/IRC/conferences.
> - You *write* a specific proof of concept and get it discussed.
> - You finish your prototype.
> - Your work gets rejected until you get something some committer is
> willing to support.
> - When there are no objections and a committer feels like it, your work
> gets committed,
> which doesn’t necessarily mean it will stay.
> - You are expected to maintain it.
>
> Libxo already went through this process.
>
> We are particularly NOT interested in code where the original
contributor
> will walk
> away as soon as he/she receives criticism or has plans that do not match
> ours.
> If this is not your ideal workflow … fork your own BSD, a lot of
> intelligent
> people do just that.
>
> Pedro.
>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 19 Nov 2015, at 11:17, Pedro Giffuni <pfg at freebsd.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello;
>>>
>>>> Il giorno 19/nov/2015, alle ore 02:34, Dan Partelly
>>>> <dan_partelly at rdsor.ro> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Pedro,
>>>>
>>>> some times ago you got some DDB patches from me in which I added
>>>> relational ops support from it. The patch was a bit clobbered,
>>>> but last I know you cleaned it up and put it somewhere on freebsd.org
>>>> (prolly your page) up for review.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It’s here:
>>> https://people.freebsd.org/~pfg/patches/ddb.patch
>>>
>>> I haven’t tested it though.
>>>
>>>> Could you or Adrian review the patch set , and if it is OK
potentially
>>>> proceed with a commit ? Or if it is not ok for a commit , please
advice
>>>> on a follow up.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am having hardware issues so I won’t be able to do much in a while.
>>> Perhaps you should review it and submit it as a PR.
>>>
>>> Pedro.
>>>
>>
>
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