rcs

Julian Elischer julian at freebsd.org
Wed Oct 9 13:41:59 UTC 2013


On 10/9/13 2:35 AM, Freddie Cash wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein <bright at mu.org> wrote:
>
>> You're right on the money, to be honest this is one of the reasons why
>> I've switched to using OSX as my desktop OS.
>>
>> zsh, vim, screen by default.  and upgrades work.  At the end of the day
>> I'm spending time doing work, not mucking about my workspace to make it
>> usable for development.
>>
>> I think this was brought up at BSDCan in the discussion about making
>> FreeBSD a more featured development platform.
>>
>> Speaking of... has anyone tried PCBSD?
>
> PC-BSD isn't much different from FreeBSD.  The installer is GUI and support
> ZFS, there are some GUI setup tools on first boot for X, there are some GUI
> tools to select binary drivers for X, and there ​​are working pkgng repos
> available.
>
> I had a lot of issues with PC-BSD 9.0 and 9.1 as I was trying to do things
> "the FreeBSD way" which broke a lot of things that were done "the PC-BSD
> way" (aka don't manually edit config files used for booting).
>
> ​Switching to the "rolling-release" (aka PC-BSD 9-STABLE) and moving all my
> config file edits into <filename>.conf.local fixed my issues.  Things have
> been running smooth, and I finally understand the beauty and simplicity of
> freebsd-update + pkg.  OS gets updated once per month, packages get updated
> twice per month, no more compiling things from source.  It's like using
> Ubuntu/Debian but with the power and features of FreeBSD.  :)
>
When they went to a ZFS-only system, using GRUB, with no alternative, then I'm afraid they lost me.
I want a root filesystem on UFS for reliabailty and simpleness.  I can debug it's media if needed.
Before then I really liked it (though ther eis not enough information on how it works interneally if you want to use it.
hopefully that will come.. and I LIKE PBIs  FreeBSD should adopt PBIs for sure.
With PBIs you could make even quite base items separately installable. versioning problems go away.




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