i give up

[Robert Noland]

On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 01:51 -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Robert Noland <rnoland at freebsd.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 11:44 -0800, Artem Belevich wrote:
> >> > Second, DO NOT use motherboards with built-in video.  These are almost
> >> > always nvidia chipsets and suffer from the nvidia problem.  Also, the video
> >> > is crappy and buggy.
> >>
> >> I'd not discount them all as a class. Intel's built-in G33/G35 with
> >> recent DRM and x86-video-intel driver seem to work pretty well for
> >> accelerated 2D on the few boxes I have under FreeBSD-8/amd64. I even
> >> get 3D working on occasion. :-)
> >
> > Correct, Despite my occasional frustration with them, Intel is very
> > supportive.  They are providing docs and code (linux code) and I have a
> > decent relationship with the Intel graphics devs.
> >
> > ATI/AMD has also become much more friendly and r500 and below should
> > work fairly well.  r600+ is still under development.
> >
> > Interestingly enough, VIA just released docs on some of their chips as
> > well.  I have it on my list to work on, but I don't yet have hardware to
> > work with.
> >
> > robert.
> >
> >> --Artem
> 
> Eh? ATI can't write drivers to get themselves out of a cardboard box
> on Linux, let alone FreeBSD. I have little faith that they'll get
> functional 64-bit drivers before nVidia does, as ATI as definitely
> demonstrated that they don't care for the *BSD market as much as
> nVidia has.

I'm not referring to ATI/AMDs proprietary drivers.  They are providing
open documentation now, as well as information that isn't yet public
when I ask for it.  So, I'm speaking about the open drm/mesa/Xorg
driver, which afaik is working pretty well on r500 and below now.

robert.

> -Garrett
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