FreeBSD on Intel Macs?
David Leimbach
leimy2k at gmail.com
Mon Jan 16 13:06:57 PST 2006
On 1/15/06, Scott Long <scottl at samsco.org> wrote:
> David Leimbach wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 1/14/06, *Scott Long* <scottl at samsco.org <mailto:scottl at samsco.org>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Tim Kientzle wrote:
> > > Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
> > >
> > >>> iMac, download the EFI spec from www.intel.com
> > <http://www.intel.com>, open up the existing
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> For the lazy / impatient / bad searchers:
> > >> http://www.intel.com/technology/efi/
> > >
> > >
> > > On a related note, anyone know about any VMWare or Xen or other
> > similar
> > > virtual machine environment for Mac/Intel? (FreeBSD on Virtual
> > PC on
> > > Rosetta sounds very scary... ;-(
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> >
> > A meta-question to this is whether it will be possible to compile and
> > boot OpenDarwin on these x86 machines, like you can with the PPC ones.
> > If you can then I see no reason why Darwin couldn't be Xen-ified and
> > serve as a Domain-0 host.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > I can't think of why opendarwin wouldn't work on a machine apple
> > actually supports hardware-wise. Then again I didn't see any new
> > releases of software on opendarwin.org <http://opendarwin.org> relating
> > to 10.4.4 yet :).
> >
> > I know the guy at apple who used to make these releases though and he's
> > been working on a cool build system for building the whole system from
> > the tarred snapshot releases from time to time. I used to test this
> > stuff for him.
> >
> > It will take interested people with actual time to do the Xen port of
> > course. I'm not sure how much work a Xen host port is compared to a Xen
> > guest though.
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
>
> I guess I should clarify myself a bit. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that
> OpenDarwin will boot on the Intel machines eventually, even if the
> source isn't available today. What I'm really wondering about is
> whether OpenDarwin will be able to support OSX on those machines.
> And yeah, Kevin has done a good job with the OpenDarwin build system.
> It still has a long ways to go before it's as nice as the FreeBSD one,
> but it's better than it used to be =-)
>
> Scott
>
The bless man page for Mac OS X Intel reveals much about changing the
efi boot "thingy".
Seems that's where you'd want to put the FreeBSD loader... but that
means it'll live on HFS+, and then we might want the FreeBSD loader to
be able to boot Mac OS X too.
Got some friends who've got their intel macs already... we'll see if
they get experimental or not.
I'm really not caring for dual boot as much as I am hoping for
something like VMWare on Mac OS X so I can host FBSD and others there.
I guess that takes EFI out of the equation at that point too. At
some point... having to reboot kind of sucks :)
Dave
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