Ok well I got gdb6 installed, but just realized the program im trying to follow (cvsup) is compiled with m3. I'm not a programmer but am willing to follow directions to figure out how I can trace this process so I can find out why I'm getting continuous errors. This thread explains. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-June/029645.html -- Grover Lines