From freebsdworld at gmail.com Mon Sep 1 04:07:59 2008 From: freebsdworld at gmail.com (Benjamin D Adams) Date: Mon Sep 1 04:08:06 2008 Subject: mail app conversion Message-ID: <48BB9C13.8010104@gmail.com> I'm trying to change to evolution from thunderbird. Is there a script or a tutorial on how to do so? BSDWorld.NET http://www.BSDWorld.NET/ From lists at stringsutils.com Mon Sep 1 15:20:17 2008 From: lists at stringsutils.com (Francisco Reyes) Date: Mon Sep 1 15:20:24 2008 Subject: mail app conversion References: <48BB9C13.8010104@gmail.com> Message-ID: Benjamin D Adams writes: > I'm trying to change to evolution from thunderbird. > Is there a script or a tutorial on how to do so? What in particular are you trying to convert? Address book? Emails? If you use IMAP emails are on the server. If you are using pop you could create a second account with imap and copy over the emails. Addressbook you usually do an export in the current program to a format the target program can read. From freebsdworld at gmail.com Mon Sep 1 15:22:19 2008 From: freebsdworld at gmail.com (Benjamin D Adams) Date: Mon Sep 1 15:22:26 2008 Subject: mail app conversion In-Reply-To: References: <48BB9C13.8010104@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48BC40F1.8080402@gmail.com> Francisco Reyes wrote: > Benjamin D Adams writes: > >> I'm trying to change to evolution from thunderbird. >> Is there a script or a tutorial on how to do so? > > What in particular are you trying to convert? > Address book? Emails? > > If you use IMAP emails are on the server. If you are using pop you > could create a second account with imap and copy over the emails. > > Addressbook you usually do an export in the current program to a > format the target program can read. > I'm trying to convert my gmail account over with all the email. (pop) I think if I just create the mail accounts and copy the emails over since they are mbox evolution should read them. Just wondering if anyone else has done this? BSDWorld.NET From kris at FreeBSD.org Fri Sep 5 08:30:22 2008 From: kris at FreeBSD.org (Kris Kennaway) Date: Fri Sep 5 08:30:28 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <48C0EE1D.5080809@FreeBSD.org> Kris Kennaway wrote: > jef moskot wrote: >> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> I must have missed something, how would running the Chrome browser >>> collect our valuable data? >> >> What other purpose would Google have for creating this software? >> Everything Google does is attempt to collect more data, whether it's >> collecting the world's email or convincing corporations, universities, >> private citizens, and everyone else that storing all their documents >> and records on Google servers is a great idea. > > > Whether this browser directly collects more data or simply assists them > > with their other collection methods, there's no other reasonable > > explanation for the creation of the tool. > > The big selling point of this browser is the performance of its > Javascript engine compared to other existing browsers. Javascript is > what is used to run the client side of "web applications"...like Google > Docs, and other Google applications. > > Pushing the development of Javascript is directly tied to google's > ability to launch more complex web-based applications in the future. > > As for google collecting private data, this browser apparently does no > more of that than other existing browsers, according to: > > http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ Another reason: the javascript engine in chrome is also ported to the ARM architecture, so it will give them better performance on ARM-based google android mobile phones. I'm sure you could think of yet more reasons if you tried ;-) Kris From jef at math.miami.edu Fri Sep 5 08:46:33 2008 From: jef at math.miami.edu (jef moskot) Date: Fri Sep 5 08:46:40 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20080905043545.I64544@phantom.math.miami.edu> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Kris Kennaway wrote: > The big selling point of this browser is the performance of its > Javascript engine compared to other existing browsers. Javascript is > what is used to run the client side of "web applications"...like Google > Docs, and other Google applications. > > Pushing the development of Javascript is directly tied to google's > ability to launch more complex web-based applications in the future. Yes, and why are they doing THAT? Jeffrey Moskot System Administrator jef@math.miami.edu From kris at FreeBSD.org Fri Sep 5 09:00:51 2008 From: kris at FreeBSD.org (Kris Kennaway) Date: Fri Sep 5 09:00:58 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <20080905043545.I64544@phantom.math.miami.edu> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905043545.I64544@phantom.math.miami.edu> Message-ID: <48C0F542.6010600@FreeBSD.org> jef moskot wrote: > On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> The big selling point of this browser is the performance of its >> Javascript engine compared to other existing browsers. Javascript is >> what is used to run the client side of "web applications"...like >> Google Docs, and other Google applications. >> >> Pushing the development of Javascript is directly tied to google's >> ability to launch more complex web-based applications in the future. > > Yes, and why are they doing THAT? To make money by increasing their market share in existing markets, developing new markets and directly or indirectly funneling more users into their ads and other revenue sources. If you look at what google has done over the past 5 years, they're about much more than indexing data thesedays. Kris P.S. Full disclosure: I'm soon to start work there. From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Fri Sep 5 12:08:59 2008 From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar) Date: Fri Sep 5 12:09:15 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> > As for google collecting private data, this browser apparently does no more > of that than other existing browsers, according to: > > http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ > of course. they just start.. just wait a bit From kris at FreeBSD.org Sat Sep 6 03:09:04 2008 From: kris at FreeBSD.org (Kris Kennaway) Date: Sat Sep 6 03:09:11 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Message-ID: <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> As for google collecting private data, this browser apparently does no >> more of that than other existing browsers, according to: >> >> http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ >> > of course. they just start.. just wait a bit It's worth keeping an eye on, but not to the point of paranoia. Think of how much bad publicity would be generated if google was discovered to be secretly collecting data. Kris From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Sat Sep 6 07:47:03 2008 From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar) Date: Sat Sep 6 07:47:10 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> >>> http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ >>> >> of course. they just start.. just wait a bit > > It's worth keeping an eye on, but not to the point of paranoia. Think of how > much bad publicity would be generated if google was discovered to be secretly > collecting data. > i don't know if it was discovered or will be, i don't need that discovery, because i'm sure they do. everyone is honest for 100$, most for $1000, very few for $10000, almost nobody for >$1000000, that's wy everybody should avoid LARGE corporation. From kdk at daleco.biz Sat Sep 6 18:21:00 2008 From: kdk at daleco.biz (Kevin Kinsey) Date: Sat Sep 6 18:21:06 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> <20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Message-ID: <48C2C9F6.30508@daleco.biz> Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>> http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ >>>> >>> of course. they just start.. just wait a bit >> >> It's worth keeping an eye on, but not to the point of paranoia. Think >> of how much bad publicity would be generated if google was discovered >> to be secretly collecting data. >> > i don't know if it was discovered or will be, i don't need that > discovery, because i'm sure they do. > > everyone is honest for 100$, most for $1000, very few for $10000, almost > nobody for >$1000000, that's wy everybody should avoid LARGE corporation. So then, business who talk about protecting their "IP" aren't talking about "Internet Protocol", and aren't discussing "Intellectual Property", they are actually making an "Indecent Proposal?" [1] [2] Almost nobody, Kevin Kinsey [1] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107211/ [2] No one here is for sale at *any* price. -- This is a test of the emergency broadcast system. Had there been an actual emergency, then you would no longer be here. From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Sat Sep 6 19:49:44 2008 From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar) Date: Sat Sep 6 19:49:56 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <48C2C9F6.30508@daleco.biz> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> <20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48C2C9F6.30508@daleco.biz> Message-ID: <20080906214815.A4204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> >> i don't know if it was discovered or will be, i don't need that discovery, >> because i'm sure they do. >> >> everyone is honest for 100$, most for $1000, very few for $10000, almost >> nobody for >$1000000, that's wy everybody should avoid LARGE corporation. > > So then, business who talk about protecting their "IP" > aren't talking about "Internet Protocol", and aren't > discussing "Intellectual Property", they are actually > making an "Indecent Proposal?" [1] [2] in most cases - yes. From ktullavik at gmail.com Sun Sep 7 08:13:46 2008 From: ktullavik at gmail.com (ktu) Date: Sun Sep 7 08:13:53 2008 Subject: Great webcasts from Berkeley Message-ID: <48C3853F.1010802@gmail.com> Berkeley university is making publicly available webcasts from many of their courses. I found this course, CS 61C Machine Structures, to be incredibly good, and thought I'd share the link: http://webcast.berkeley.edu/course_details.php?seriesid=1906978500 If you are interested in C-programming, operating systems, assembly/ CPU, memory management etc, and are not already a guru, this is gold. (Maybe most people on this list are level 10 gurus, I don't know) From murray at stokely.org Sun Sep 7 08:40:46 2008 From: murray at stokely.org (Murray Stokely) Date: Sun Sep 7 08:40:52 2008 Subject: Great webcasts from Berkeley In-Reply-To: <48C3853F.1010802@gmail.com> References: <48C3853F.1010802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2a7894eb0809070116h29d5f9abu8269424e0a57934b@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 12:39 AM, ktu wrote: > Berkeley university is making publicly available webcasts from many of > their courses. > > I found this course, CS 61C Machine Structures, to be incredibly good, and > thought I'd share the link: > http://webcast.berkeley.edu/course_details.php?seriesid=1906978500 CS61C at Berkeley is indeed a really great class. David Patterson, past president of the ACM, is also a frequent instructor for this course. This was one of the best courses I took in my undergraduate education. Murray From bmah at freebsd.org Sun Sep 7 23:09:28 2008 From: bmah at freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Date: Sun Sep 7 23:09:34 2008 Subject: Great webcasts from Berkeley In-Reply-To: <2a7894eb0809070116h29d5f9abu8269424e0a57934b@mail.gmail.com> References: <48C3853F.1010802@gmail.com> <2a7894eb0809070116h29d5f9abu8269424e0a57934b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48C45F23.40508@freebsd.org> If memory serves me right, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 12:39 AM, ktu wrote: >> Berkeley university is making publicly available webcasts from many of >> their courses. >> >> I found this course, CS 61C Machine Structures, to be incredibly good, and >> thought I'd share the link: >> http://webcast.berkeley.edu/course_details.php?seriesid=1906978500 > > CS61C at Berkeley is indeed a really great class. David Patterson, > past president of the ACM, is also a frequent instructor for this > course. This was one of the best courses I took in my undergraduate > education. I took the equivalent of 61C when I was an undergrad at Berkeley (it was called 60B then, and people can probably figure out something about how old I am from that), and this was a darned good class, from which I learned a lot. I was lucky to take it from Patterson, but there are many other good teachers on the CS faculty. I actually know the instructor who taught 61C on the webcast...we were in grad school at the same time. I never saw him teach a course before, but he's a heck of a good guy. Another excellent CS class at Cal is 61A (used to be 60A when I took it), which is also available in the webcast series. Most CS and EECS majors took it as their first CS class, and it was a real eye-opener for those who were used to working only in "traditional" programming languages like C, etc. Watching the webcast is kind of a trip because I took it from the same professor in the same lecture hall. Go Bears! Bruce. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Why should we expect anything different from them just because they have merged with Google -- especially since Google itself harvests users' personal data from their Gmail users' e-mail? --Brett Glass From david at catwhisker.org Mon Sep 8 01:45:04 2008 From: david at catwhisker.org (David Wolfskill) Date: Mon Sep 8 01:45:09 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <200809072343.RAA17864@lariat.net> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> <200809072343.RAA17864@lariat.net> Message-ID: <20080908010956.GT11991@bunrab.catwhisker.org> On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 05:43:10PM -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > ... > You have to remember that Doubleclick has been surreptitiously > collecting data on Internet users for many years.... Some more than others, I expect: g1-30(6.3-S)[4] host doubleclick.com doubleclick.com has address 127.0.0.1 g1-30(6.3-S)[5] host \*.doubleclick.com *.doubleclick.com has address 127.0.0.1 g1-30(6.3-S)[6] (My internal resolvers have a file that lists domains where: * they are configured to be masters for the domains in question and * everything resolves to 127.0.0.1. It does clutter the Apache error log a bit, but otherwise tends to speed page loading, as long as one doesn't object too strongly to 404 messages in place of ads.) It's not elegant -- indeed, it's rather more like blunt force -- but it is something I find useful and having been worth the effort (so far). I expect that Doubleclick (and similar enterprises) may find it less so, were the practice to become sufficiently common. Peace, david (who doesn't use Gmail, either) -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/attachments/20080908/3ffa41e0/attachment.pgp From des at des.no Mon Sep 8 10:51:21 2008 From: des at des.no (=?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?=) Date: Mon Sep 8 10:51:30 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> (Wojciech Puchar's message of "Sat, 6 Sep 2008 09:46:54 +0200 (CEST)") References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> <20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Message-ID: <86od2ykj17.fsf@ds4.des.no> Wojciech Puchar writes: > Kris Kennaway writes: > > [Google Chrome is] worth keeping an eye on, but not to the point of > > paranoia. Think of how much bad publicity would be generated if > > google was discovered to be secretly collecting data. > i don't know if it was discovered or will be, i don't need that > discovery, because i'm sure they do. Google Chrome is open source. If you're really worried that it might be secretly collecting data about you and sending it to Google, you are free to read the source code, modify any parts you think are suspect, and build your own binaries. DES -- Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav - des@des.no From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Mon Sep 8 10:56:24 2008 From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar) Date: Mon Sep 8 10:56:30 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <86od2ykj17.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> <20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <86od2ykj17.fsf@ds4.des.no> Message-ID: <20080908125527.H27528@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> > > Google Chrome is open source. If you're really worried that it might be > secretly collecting data about you and sending it to Google, you are > free to read the source code, modify any parts you think are suspect, > and build your own binaries. really - are you able to really check this overcomplex code that it has, or mozilla etc? From des at des.no Mon Sep 8 11:07:29 2008 From: des at des.no (=?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?=) Date: Mon Sep 8 11:07:35 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <20080908125527.H27528@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> (Wojciech Puchar's message of "Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:56:07 +0200 (CEST)") References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> <20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <86od2ykj17.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080908125527.H27528@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Message-ID: <864p4qgakx.fsf@ds4.des.no> Wojciech Puchar writes: > Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav writes: > > Google Chrome is open source. If you're really worried that it might be > > secretly collecting data about you and sending it to Google, you are > > free to read the source code, modify any parts you think are suspect, > > and build your own binaries. > really - are you able to really check this overcomplex code that it > has, or mozilla etc? Searching for code that sends data over the network and checking that it's benign? Sure. There is also something called ktrace (or strace on Linux) that will give you very detailed information about what an application does. But I'm starting to understand that you're not really interested in reasonable arguments - like most conspiracy theorists, you *want* your theory to be true, and will reject or ignore any evidence to the contrary. DES -- Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav - des@des.no From des at des.no Mon Sep 8 11:09:45 2008 From: des at des.no (=?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?=) Date: Mon Sep 8 11:10:06 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <864p4qgakx.fsf@ds4.des.no> ("Dag-Erling =?utf-8?Q?Sm=C3=B8rg?= =?utf-8?Q?rav=22's?= message of "Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:07:26 +0200") References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> <20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <86od2ykj17.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080908125527.H27528@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <864p4qgakx.fsf@ds4.des.no> Message-ID: <86zlmievwo.fsf@ds4.des.no> Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav writes: > Wojciech Puchar writes: > > really - are you able to really check this overcomplex code that it > > has, or mozilla etc? > Searching for code that sends data over the network and checking that > it's benign? Sure. There is also something called ktrace (or strace > on Linux) that will give you very detailed information about what an > application does. I forgot to add: are *you* able to really check that FreeBSD doesn't collect information about you and send it to a server I control? If not, why do you trust it? Because it's open source, and you trust that even if *you* don't notice it, someone else will? DES -- Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav - des@des.no From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Mon Sep 8 11:09:59 2008 From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar) Date: Mon Sep 8 11:10:06 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <864p4qgakx.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> <20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <86od2ykj17.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080908125527.H27528@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <864p4qgakx.fsf@ds4.des.no> Message-ID: <20080908130935.P27640@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> > But I'm starting to understand that you're not really interested in > reasonable arguments - like most conspiracy theorists, you *want* your > theory to be true, and will reject or ignore any evidence to the > contrary. in fact i don't care if you believe me or not. it's not my problem. From blabgoo at yahoo.com Mon Sep 8 23:04:51 2008 From: blabgoo at yahoo.com (Nicole) Date: Tue Sep 9 00:18:31 2008 Subject: Fw: Production Engineer Position at Yahoo. -- Not FreeBSD Anymore? Message-ID: <763429.94093.qm@web51804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> So much for Yahoo being mostly FreeBSD based? :( Waaah Nicole --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Bianca Medina wrote: > From: Bianca Medina > Subject: Production Engineer Position at Yahoo. > To: > Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 8:13 AM > Job Title: Production Engineer > Location: Santa Clara, CA > > The Internet is a big, busy place, and we at Yahoo! are > proud to stand > out in the crowd. As the world's number one Internet > brand, servicing > over a half billion people, we're determined to > maintain our commitment > to delivering news, entertainment, information and fun... > each and every > day. > > In order to maintain our position as one of the world's > most trafficked > Internet destinations, we're always on the lookout for > people with big > ideas and big talent to help us provide our visitors with > the innovative > products and services they've come to expect from > Yahoo!. We're looking > for people like you. > > How Big Can You Think? > > Production Engineers at Yahoo! thrive on the scale and > mission-critical > nature of our complex ad serving runtime as well as the > challenge that > comes along with its operation. In this critical role, > you'll utilize > your rare combination of significant UNIX systems > experience, network > knowledge, troubleshooting skills and coding sensibilities > to design, > deploy, monitor, and automate all operational aspects of > Yahoo!'s > revenue critical ad serving systems. > > The ideal candidate has strong Perl programming skills as > well as an > extensive background in large-scale system administration. > S/he will > work directly with design and development teams, and will > participate in > all phases of software development from planning, design, > implementation, testing, deployment, and day-to-day service > operation. > > This is a full time position located in Santa Clara, CA. > > Responsibilities > * Function as a technical generalist responsible for the > overall health > and performance of our search and ad serving platforms > * Develop tools to automate the deployment, administration, > and > monitoring of a large-scale Linux environment > * Gain deep application-level knowledge of the systems as > well as > contributing to their overall design > * Work with development teams to harden, enhance, document, > and > generally improve the operability of our systems > * Assist in the configuration/build-out of new deployments > to facilitate > our constant growth > * Participate in a 12x7 (daylight hours) on-call pager > rotation > Minimum Job Qualifications > * Extensive system administration background > * Strong troubleshooting and problem solving skills, > including > application and network-level troubleshooting ability > * Strong programming skills in one or more of: C, Perl, > Python, Ruby > * Excellent written and verbal communication skills > * Experience working with development teams > Preferred Job Qualifications > * 5+ years experience with Linux (RHEL a plus) > * 5+ years experience administering large-scale UNIX > installations (ISP > background a plus) > * Experience with SQL and commonly deployed database > systems > * BS Computer Science > Yahoo! Inc. is an equal opportunity employer. For more > information or to > search all of our openings, please visit > http://careers.yahoo.com. > > > > > If interested please send your resume to me directly along > with some > dates/times I can give you a call. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Bianca Medina > > Yahoo! Inc.Talent Scout > > 701 First Avenue > Sunnyvale, CA 94089 > > (408) 349-6239 > biancam@yahoo-inc.com > > > > Fortune's Top 100 Companies to Work For > > For more info go to: http://careers.yahoo.com/ > > > > > Join my Professional LinkedIn Network: > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/biancamedina > From matt at ixsystems.com Tue Sep 9 00:55:23 2008 From: matt at ixsystems.com (Matt Olander) Date: Tue Sep 9 00:55:30 2008 Subject: Production Engineer Position at Yahoo. -- Not FreeBSD Anymore? In-Reply-To: <763429.94093.qm@web51804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <763429.94093.qm@web51804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BF624FA-D6B3-4651-B97B-E108730948A9@ixsystems.com> On Sep 8, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Nicole wrote: > So much for Yahoo being mostly FreeBSD based? :( > Waaah They still have many FreeBSD servers but have ended up with quite a mix of operating systems, including Linux and Solaris. Much of that is through company acquisitions with infrastructures that were already built out and would be difficult to change over, even if it was desired to do so :'( -matt > --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Bianca Medina wrote: >> From: Bianca Medina >> Subject: Production Engineer Position at Yahoo. >> To: >> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 8:13 AM >> Job Title: Production Engineer >> Location: Santa Clara, CA >> >> The Internet is a big, busy place, and we at Yahoo! are >> proud to stand >> out in the crowd. As the world's number one Internet >> brand, servicing >> over a half billion people, we're determined to >> maintain our commitment >> to delivering news, entertainment, information and fun... >> each and every >> day. >> >> In order to maintain our position as one of the world's >> most trafficked >> Internet destinations, we're always on the lookout for >> people with big >> ideas and big talent to help us provide our visitors with >> the innovative >> products and services they've come to expect from >> Yahoo!. We're looking >> for people like you. >> >> How Big Can You Think? >> >> Production Engineers at Yahoo! thrive on the scale and >> mission-critical >> nature of our complex ad serving runtime as well as the >> challenge that >> comes along with its operation. In this critical role, >> you'll utilize >> your rare combination of significant UNIX systems >> experience, network >> knowledge, troubleshooting skills and coding sensibilities >> to design, >> deploy, monitor, and automate all operational aspects of >> Yahoo!'s >> revenue critical ad serving systems. >> >> The ideal candidate has strong Perl programming skills as >> well as an >> extensive background in large-scale system administration. >> S/he will >> work directly with design and development teams, and will >> participate in >> all phases of software development from planning, design, >> implementation, testing, deployment, and day-to-day service >> operation. >> >> This is a full time position located in Santa Clara, CA. >> >> Responsibilities >> * Function as a technical generalist responsible for the >> overall health >> and performance of our search and ad serving platforms >> * Develop tools to automate the deployment, administration, >> and >> monitoring of a large-scale Linux environment >> * Gain deep application-level knowledge of the systems as >> well as >> contributing to their overall design >> * Work with development teams to harden, enhance, document, >> and >> generally improve the operability of our systems >> * Assist in the configuration/build-out of new deployments >> to facilitate >> our constant growth >> * Participate in a 12x7 (daylight hours) on-call pager >> rotation >> Minimum Job Qualifications >> * Extensive system administration background >> * Strong troubleshooting and problem solving skills, >> including >> application and network-level troubleshooting ability >> * Strong programming skills in one or more of: C, Perl, >> Python, Ruby >> * Excellent written and verbal communication skills >> * Experience working with development teams >> Preferred Job Qualifications >> * 5+ years experience with Linux (RHEL a plus) >> * 5+ years experience administering large-scale UNIX >> installations (ISP >> background a plus) >> * Experience with SQL and commonly deployed database >> systems >> * BS Computer Science >> Yahoo! Inc. is an equal opportunity employer. For more >> information or to >> search all of our openings, please visit >> http://careers.yahoo.com. >> >> >> >> >> If interested please send your resume to me directly along >> with some >> dates/times I can give you a call. >> >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Bianca Medina >> >> Yahoo! Inc.Talent Scout >> >> 701 First Avenue >> Sunnyvale, CA 94089 >> >> (408) 349-6239 >> biancam@yahoo-inc.com >> >> >> >> Fortune's Top 100 Companies to Work For >> >> For more info go to: http://careers.yahoo.com/ >> >> >> >> >> Join my Professional LinkedIn Network: >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/biancamedina >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From Peter.Ross at bogen.in-berlin.de Tue Sep 9 08:27:15 2008 From: Peter.Ross at bogen.in-berlin.de (Peter Ross) Date: Tue Sep 9 08:27:22 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <86od2ykj17.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <20080905023 638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org><20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl > <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org><20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <86od2ykj17.fsf@ds4.des.no> Message-ID: <20080909174401.Q1857@klein.bigpond.com> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > Google Chrome is open source. If you're really worried that it might be > secretly collecting data about you and sending it to Google .. I just double-checked the thread, I could not see someone mentioning it: http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/privacy.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When you type URLs or queries in the address bar, the letters you type are sent to Google so the Suggest feature can automatically recommend terms or URLs you may be looking for. If you choose to share usage statistics with Google and you accept a suggested query or URL, Google Chrome will send that information to Google as well. You can disable this feature as explained here. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- If I read it correctly: _Every_ time you type into your ('conveniently' combined) URL/search field, it gets immediately send to Google. In other words: Google can record your webbrowsing. And it is the default, not something you enable explicitly. Well, some consolidation: you _can_ disable it. Regards Peter From Peter.Ross at alumni.tu-berlin.de Tue Sep 9 08:32:42 2008 From: Peter.Ross at alumni.tu-berlin.de (Peter Ross) Date: Tue Sep 9 08:32:58 2008 Subject: Google Chrome Message-ID: <20080909180033.S1857@klein.bigpond.com> [Sorry, resent - I used a sender address not on the list] On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > Google Chrome is open source. If you're really worried that it might be > secretly collecting data about you and sending it to Google .. I just double-checked the thread, I could not see someone mentioning it: http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/privacy.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When you type URLs or queries in the address bar, the letters you type are sent to Google so the Suggest feature can automatically recommend terms or URLs you may be looking for. If you choose to share usage statistics with Google and you accept a suggested query or URL, Google Chrome will send that information to Google as well. You can disable this feature as explained here. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- If I read it correctly: _Every_ time you type into your ('conveniently' combined) URL/search field, it gets immediately send to Google. In other words: Google can record your webbrowsing. And it is the default, not something you enable explicitly. Well, some consolidation: you _can_ disable it. Regards Peter From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Tue Sep 9 09:03:15 2008 From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar) Date: Tue Sep 9 09:03:22 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <20080909174401.Q1857@klein.bigpond.com> References: <20080905023 638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org><20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl > <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org><20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <86od2ykj17.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080909174401.Q1857@klein.bigpond.com> Message-ID: <20080909110132.F36463@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> > I just double-checked the thread, I could not see someone mentioning it: > > http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/privacy.html > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > When you type URLs or queries in the address bar, the letters you type are > sent to Google so the Suggest feature can automatically recommend terms or > URLs you may be looking for. If you choose to share usage statistics with > Google and you accept a suggested query or URL, Google Chrome will send > that information to Google as well. You can disable this feature as > explained here. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > If I read it correctly: > > _Every_ time you type into your ('conveniently' combined) URL/search > field, it gets immediately send to Google. every time you use ports/net/tor - they get confused :)))) > In other words: Google can record your webbrowsing. s/can/do/ > Well, some consolidation: you _can_ disable it. disable this feature or disable sending? From doublef-ctm at yandex.ru Tue Sep 9 10:30:53 2008 From: doublef-ctm at yandex.ru (Sergey Zaharchenko) Date: Tue Sep 9 10:31:00 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <20080909174401.Q1857@klein.bigpond.com> References: <86od2ykj17.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080909174401.Q1857@klein.bigpond.com> Message-ID: <20080909101838.GA2645@shark.localdomain> Hello Peter! Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 05:56:05PM +1000 you wrote: > On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > > > Google Chrome is open source. If you're really worried that it might be > > secretly collecting data about you and sending it to Google .. > > I just double-checked the thread, I could not see someone mentioning it: > > http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/privacy.html > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > When you type URLs or queries in the address bar, the letters you type are > sent to Google so the Suggest feature can automatically recommend terms or > URLs you may be looking for. If you choose to share usage statistics with > Google and you accept a suggested query or URL, Google Chrome will send > that information to Google as well. You can disable this feature as > explained here. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > If I read it correctly: > > _Every_ time you type into your ('conveniently' combined) URL/search > field, it gets immediately send to Google. > > In other words: Google can record your webbrowsing. You may be interested in knowing that the same feature is present in other browsers. Get your proxy to ban urls containing `google.com/complete/search' if that's a concern (as for me, it's just annoying). -- DoubleF No virus detected in this message. Ehrm, wait a minute... /kernel: pid 56921 (antivirus), uid 32000: exited on signal 9 Oh yes, no virus:) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you're really worried that it might be >>> secretly collecting data about you and sending it to Google .. >> I just double-checked the thread, I could not see someone mentioning it: >> >> http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/privacy.html >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> When you type URLs or queries in the address bar, the letters you type are >> sent to Google so the Suggest feature can automatically recommend terms or >> URLs you may be looking for. If you choose to share usage statistics with >> Google and you accept a suggested query or URL, Google Chrome will send >> that information to Google as well. You can disable this feature as >> explained here. >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> If I read it correctly: >> >> _Every_ time you type into your ('conveniently' combined) URL/search >> field, it gets immediately send to Google. >> >> In other words: Google can record your webbrowsing. > > You may be interested in knowing that the same feature is present in > other browsers. Get your proxy to ban urls containing > `google.com/complete/search' if that's a concern (as for me, it's just > annoying). Yes, firefox etc also does exactly the same thing. You can just disable it in the browser configuration. Kris From Peter.Ross at alumni.tu-berlin.de Wed Sep 10 01:16:04 2008 From: Peter.Ross at alumni.tu-berlin.de (Peter Ross) Date: Wed Sep 10 01:16:10 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <20080909101838.GA2645@shark.localdomain> References: <86od2ykj17.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080909174401.Q1857@klein.bigpond.com><20080909101838.GA2645@shark.localdomain> Message-ID: <20080910110539.E1675@klein.bigpond.com> Hi Sergey, On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Sergey Zaharchenko wrote: > Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 05:56:05PM +1000 you wrote: > > > _Every_ time you type into your ('conveniently' combined) URL/search > > field, it gets immediately send to Google. > > You may be interested in knowing that the same feature is present in > other browsers. Get your proxy to ban urls containing > `google.com/complete/search' if that's a concern (as for me, it's just > annoying). Correct me if I am wrong: Firefox only contacts Google if DNS fails. AFAIK as long as you have a valid URL it does not go to Google. Google Chrome sends an event every time you type into the URL/Search field (using Javascript) so Google can make suggestions while you are typing. So _every_ URL is sent to them. Yes, I know that you can use tor. But the most users will not do it. As most don't care about changing defaults at all. So if Chrome becomes widely used, Google harvests the browsing history of millions of users. Regards Peter From murray at stokely.org Wed Sep 10 01:29:58 2008 From: murray at stokely.org (Murray Stokely) Date: Wed Sep 10 01:30:04 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <20080910110539.E1675@klein.bigpond.com> References: <86od2ykj17.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080909174401.Q1857@klein.bigpond.com> <20080909101838.GA2645@shark.localdomain> <20080910110539.E1675@klein.bigpond.com> Message-ID: <2a7894eb0809091829s4ebb75fco20a65bd84eca5d2b@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Peter Ross wrote: > Correct me if I am wrong: > > Firefox only contacts Google if DNS fails. AFAIK as long as you have a > valid URL it does not go to Google. > > Google Chrome sends an event every time you type into the URL/Search field > (using Javascript) so Google can make suggestions while you are typing. > > So _every_ URL is sent to them. > > Yes, I know that you can use tor. But the most users will not do it. As > most don't care about changing defaults at all. So if Chrome becomes > widely used, Google harvests the browsing history of millions of users. All search companies with toolbars already harvest the browsing history of millions of users. Most toolbars have a similar suggest feature, which consumers find enormously useful, but can turn off it they don't want to give away that information. Your ISP also sees your entire browsing history, but turning that off with Tor or something is much harder. More details about all the cases when Chrome communicates with a Google server are enumerated in a blog post here : http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ - Murray From jef at math.miami.edu Wed Sep 10 04:42:09 2008 From: jef at math.miami.edu (jef moskot) Date: Wed Sep 10 04:42:15 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <48C71C27.8030009@FreeBSD.org> References: <86od2ykj17.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080909174401.Q1857@klein.bigpond.com> <20080909101838.GA2645@shark.localdomain> <48C71C27.8030009@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20080910003550.C84420@phantom.math.miami.edu> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Yes, firefox etc also does exactly the same thing [ie, collect all your > browsing data]. You can just disable it in the browser configuration. So we all agree that Google is, in fact, using Chrome to harvest information. No conspiracy theories or debate about open source necessary. It's nice that this can be turned off, but we all know the vast majority of users will not do this. Can I throw my tinfoil hat in the recycle bin now? Jeffrey Moskot System Administrator jef@math.miami.edu From itetcu at FreeBSD.org Wed Sep 10 06:24:30 2008 From: itetcu at FreeBSD.org (Ion-Mihai Tetcu) Date: Wed Sep 10 06:24:36 2008 Subject: wire(less)router under 100E - that we can run FreeBSD on? (Re: projects for wrt54gl) In-Reply-To: <200808181447.19210.max@love2party.net> References: <48A96419.2010608@fairhaven.za.net> <200808181447.19210.max@love2party.net> Message-ID: <20080910090657.1b18a0be@it.buh.tecnik93.com> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:47:18 +0200 Max Laier wrote: > On Monday 18 August 2008 13:59:21 Angus Robinson wrote: > > Not to sure if this list caters this. I have a linksys wrt54gl > > wireless router (the cisco open source AP) and would like to know > > if there is a *BSD projects out there for this AP (i know there are > > a few linux ones), or if IPFW2 can be sucessfully compiled on > > linux. I have had a look on google with not much sucess. Sorry if > > this is the wrong list. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys_WRT54G_series > > This is powered by a MIPS based SoC. The FreeBSD/mips port is not > ready for prime time, yet ... but the wrt54gXX should be a possible > target once it is. NetBSD has a mips32 port, but it seems that there > are boot problems with the wrt54 > > As of now, it seems that *BSD is a no-go on this device - sorry. Are you or anyone else aware of an equivalent product - wire(less) router under 100E - that we can run FreeBSD on? We're using quite a few wrt54gl for very small networks and I'd really love a bit more flexibility when it comes to firewall for the same money. Thanks, -- IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/attachments/20080910/660fdea2/signature.pgp From max at love2party.net Wed Sep 10 06:40:12 2008 From: max at love2party.net (Max Laier) Date: Wed Sep 10 06:40:18 2008 Subject: wire(less)router under 100E - that we can run FreeBSD on? (Re: projects for wrt54gl) In-Reply-To: <20080910090657.1b18a0be@it.buh.tecnik93.com> References: <48A96419.2010608@fairhaven.za.net> <200808181447.19210.max@love2party.net> <20080910090657.1b18a0be@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Message-ID: <200809100840.08607.max@love2party.net> On Wednesday 10 September 2008 08:06:57 Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:47:18 +0200 > > Max Laier wrote: > > On Monday 18 August 2008 13:59:21 Angus Robinson wrote: > > > Not to sure if this list caters this. I have a linksys wrt54gl > > > wireless router (the cisco open source AP) and would like to know > > > if there is a *BSD projects out there for this AP (i know there are > > > a few linux ones), or if IPFW2 can be sucessfully compiled on > > > linux. I have had a look on google with not much sucess. Sorry if > > > this is the wrong list. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys_WRT54G_series > > > > This is powered by a MIPS based SoC. The FreeBSD/mips port is not > > ready for prime time, yet ... but the wrt54gXX should be a possible > > target once it is. NetBSD has a mips32 port, but it seems that there > > are boot problems with the wrt54 > > > > As of now, it seems that *BSD is a no-go on this device - sorry. > > Are you or anyone else aware of an equivalent product - wire(less) > router under 100E - that we can run FreeBSD on? > > We're using quite a few wrt54gl for very small networks and I'd really > love a bit more flexibility when it comes to firewall for the same > money. I'm not. However, you can pick up PcEngiens WRAP (discontinued) and ALIX based solutions for just about 100E. There might be some ARM based solutions out there, I'm not aware of, though. In addition, there should be a rise in Intel Atom based boards in the next few months which can certainly provide a quite powerful solution for <100$. -- /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From kris at FreeBSD.org Wed Sep 10 06:55:52 2008 From: kris at FreeBSD.org (Kris Kennaway) Date: Wed Sep 10 06:55:58 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <20080910003550.C84420@phantom.math.miami.edu> References: <86od2ykj17.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080909174401.Q1857@klein.bigpond.com> <20080909101838.GA2645@shark.localdomain> <48C71C27.8030009@FreeBSD.org> <20080910003550.C84420@phantom.math.miami.edu> Message-ID: <48C76F7A.4080502@FreeBSD.org> jef moskot wrote: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> Yes, firefox etc also does exactly the same thing [ie, collect all >> your browsing data]. You can just disable it in the browser >> configuration. > > So we all agree that Google is, in fact, using Chrome to harvest > information. No conspiracy theories or debate about open source necessary. > > It's nice that this can be turned off, but we all know the vast majority > of users will not do this. My point is that suggestions that this new browser is some kind of game changer in terms of retention of private information are bunk, because as far as I can tell it does no more than e.g. firefox, which also sends the same information to google by default. > Can I throw my tinfoil hat in the recycle bin now? Sounds like a good place for it :) Kris From olli at lurza.secnetix.de Wed Sep 10 11:11:37 2008 From: olli at lurza.secnetix.de (Oliver Fromme) Date: Wed Sep 10 11:11:44 2008 Subject: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <20080908010956.GT11991@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Message-ID: <200809101110.m8ABAqwe082446@lurza.secnetix.de> David Wolfskill wrote: > g1-30(6.3-S)[4] host doubleclick.com > doubleclick.com has address 127.0.0.1 > g1-30(6.3-S)[5] host \*.doubleclick.com > *.doubleclick.com has address 127.0.0.1 > g1-30(6.3-S)[6] > > (My internal resolvers have a file that lists domains where: > * they are configured to be masters for the domains in question and > * everything resolves to 127.0.0.1. > It does clutter the Apache error log a bit, but otherwise tends to speed > page loading, as long as one doesn't object too strongly to 404 messages > in place of ads.) If you run a Squid proxy, there's another way to achieve similar results (without 404 messages). Put these lines in your sqid conf: acl banned_doms url_regex -i "/usr/local/etc/squid/banned_doms.txt" acl banned_urls dstdomain "/usr/local/etc/squid/banned_urls.txt" http_access deny banned_doms http_access deny banned_urls deny_info ERR_BANNED banned_doms deny_info ERR_BANNED banned_doms The file banned_doms.txt contains one domains per line, for example: .doubleclick.net .doubleclick.com .googlesyndication.com .hitbox.com .adserver.org .usertracker.info The dot prefix means to include the domain _and_ all names under that domain, e.g. ".foo.com" includes foo.com itself as well as www.foo.com, www.bar.foo.com and so on. This "dstdomain" matching is very efficient; in the squid ML someone reported having 600,000 entries in his file of banned domains. The file banned_urls.txt contains extended regular expressions (one per line) that are matched against the full URL of the request, for example: ^http://wodas\.wetteroffline\.de/static/sky_(google|woshop) ^http://oas\.hiese\.de/RealMedia/ads/ Finally, the file errors/$LANG/ERR_BANNED contains something like this: Blocked

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