From phi at evilphi.com Sat Nov 1 15:45:51 2008 From: phi at evilphi.com (Darren Pilgrim) Date: Sat Nov 1 15:45:57 2008 Subject: Would Linux exist without the Internet? In-Reply-To: References: <49090ACE.9000604@delphij.net> Message-ID: <490CD879.8010805@evilphi.com> Jayton Garnett wrote: > Would the Internet exist without BSD? > No. > > Would Linux exist without the Internet? :) > No. By extension: Linux wouldn't exist without BSD. :) From mdh_lists at yahoo.com Sat Nov 1 16:57:46 2008 From: mdh_lists at yahoo.com (mdh) Date: Sat Nov 1 17:12:34 2008 Subject: Would Linux exist without the Internet? In-Reply-To: <490CD879.8010805@evilphi.com> Message-ID: <478853.88188.qm@web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 11/1/08, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > From: Darren Pilgrim > Subject: Re: Would Linux exist without the Internet? > To: "Jayton Garnett" > Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 6:30 PM > Jayton Garnett wrote: > > Would the Internet exist without BSD? > > No. > > > > Would Linux exist without the Internet? :) > > No. > > By extension: Linux wouldn't exist without BSD. :) I've seen a quote around attributed to Linus Torvalds, stating something along the lines of "If I'd known about 386BSD back then, I probably wouldn't have created Linux." So an inverse is true, as well - Linux wouldn't exist with BSD. Or something. - mdh From stupendoussteve at hotmail.com Sat Nov 1 20:29:12 2008 From: stupendoussteve at hotmail.com (Steven Susbauer) Date: Sat Nov 1 20:29:19 2008 Subject: Would Linux exist without the Internet? Message-ID: mdh wrote: >--- On Sat, 11/1/08, Darren Pilgrim wrote: >>From: Darren Pilgrim >>Subject: Re: Would Linux exist without the Internet? >>To: "Jayton Garnett" >>Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org >>Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 6:30 PM >>Jayton Garnett wrote: >>>Would the Internet exist without BSD? >>>No. >>> >>>Would Linux exist without the Internet? :) >>>No. >>By extension: Linux wouldn't exist without BSD. :) > >I've seen a quote around attributed to Linus Torvalds, stating something >along the lines of "If I'd known about 386BSD back then, I probably >wouldn't have created Linux." > >So an inverse is true, as well - Linux wouldn't exist with BSD. Or >something. > >- mdh I believe it's from an old LinuxNews piece, from October 1992 - http://www.abc.se/~m9339/linux/linuxdoc/linuxnews03a.html "LN: How do you feel about Minix, 386BSD, and Hurd and their authors? Are they rivals, or or allies? Linus: 386BSD and Hurd are most definitely allies - I'll be happy to help them any way I can (for 386BSD I was already able to help with the math-emulator, and I've been in contact with some others re: vm86 etc). *If 386BSD had been available a year earlier, I would probably never have started on Linux*, but as it is, I'm happy to say that 386BSD didn't automatically mean that Linux wasn't worth it. Both 386BSD and Linux have their points, and I naturally think Linux is more fun." So there you have it, pull out your time machines. ;) From cactushugger1 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 4 06:44:14 2008 From: cactushugger1 at yahoo.com (david mellick) Date: Tue Nov 4 08:07:32 2008 Subject: noob question Message-ID: <147712.83284.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hello I am new to freeBSD so bare with the stupid questions (updated ports did port snap yadayada..) trying to use the valgrind mod? (http://valgrind.org/) i have mounted? proc and ee fstab according to google's instruction then did a make install in the valgrind ports directory. I have no idea what is considered normal or if it is blowing? up, I get lots of text that i dont fully understand ill copy and paste some just to make sure its the norm.? ___________________________________________________________________________ gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/lackey/tests' gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/lackey' Making all in none gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none' Making all in . gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none' if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..? -I../include -DVG_LIBDIR="\"/usr/local/lib"\"?? -Winline -Wall -Wshadow -O -fomit-frame-pointer -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -g? -MT nl_main.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/nl_main.Tpo" -c -o nl_main.o nl_main.c; \ ??????? then mv -f ".deps/nl_main.Tpo" ".deps/nl_main.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/nl_main.Tpo"; exit 1; fi cc? -Winline -Wall -Wshadow -O -fomit-frame-pointer -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -g??? -o vgskin_none.so -shared -Wl,-rpath,../coregrind nl_main.o mkdir -p ../.in_place rm -f ../.in_place/vgskin_none.so ln -f -s ../none/vgskin_none.so ../.in_place/vgskin_none.so gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none' Making all in docs gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none/docs' gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none/docs' Making all in tests gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none/tests' gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none/tests' gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none' gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352' __________________________________________________________________________ A.? is that normal ^^ ? B. I should be able to do --version and get the version right?? no matter what directory I am in? It is telling me command not found so did i not install it properly or do i have to be in a special directory? I did? the echo $path command and went to all the listed locations to try and run the --version command to no avail.?? again thanks for helping a noob out. From frank at shute.org.uk Tue Nov 4 18:21:17 2008 From: frank at shute.org.uk (Frank Shute) Date: Tue Nov 4 18:22:13 2008 Subject: noob question In-Reply-To: <147712.83284.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <147712.83284.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20081105022105.GA32302@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 06:17:33AM -0800, david mellick wrote: > > hello I am new to freeBSD so bare with the stupid questions > > (updated ports did port snap yadayada..) > > trying to use the valgrind mod? (http://valgrind.org/) > > i have mounted? proc and ee fstab according to google's instruction > > then did a make install in the valgrind ports directory. > > I have no idea what is considered normal or if it is blowing? up, I > get lots of text that i dont fully understand ill copy and paste > some just to make sure its the norm.? > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/lackey/tests' > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/lackey' Making > all in none gmake[2]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none' Making all > in . gmake[3]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none' if cc > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..? -I../include > -DVG_LIBDIR="\"/usr/local/lib"\"?? -Winline -Wall -Wshadow -O > -fomit-frame-pointer -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -g? -MT nl_main.o > -MD -MP -MF ".deps/nl_main.Tpo" -c -o nl_main.o nl_main.c; \ > ??????? then mv -f ".deps/nl_main.Tpo" ".deps/nl_main.Po"; > else rm -f ".deps/nl_main.Tpo"; exit 1; fi cc? -Winline -Wall > -Wshadow -O -fomit-frame-pointer -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 > -g??? -o vgskin_none.so -shared -Wl,-rpath,../coregrind nl_main.o > mkdir -p ../.in_place rm -f ../.in_place/vgskin_none.so ln -f -s > ../none/vgskin_none.so ../.in_place/vgskin_none.so gmake[3]: Leaving > directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none' > Making all in docs gmake[3]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none/docs' > gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none/docs' > Making all in tests gmake[3]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none/tests' > gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none/tests' > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none' gmake[1]: > Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352' > __________________________________________________________________________ > > A.? is that normal ^^ ? Yeah, that looks normal. It should be fairly obvious if a port build fails i.e it tells you in fairly certain terms. If that is the case, post the error messages & a few lines before it starts to blow up. > > B. I should be able to do --version and get the version right?? no > matter what directory I am in? Maybe ;) > > > It is telling me command not found so did i not install it properly > or do i have to be in a special directory? > > I did? the echo $path command and went to all the listed locations > to try and run the --version command to no avail.?? An easy way to see whether a command is in your path is whereis(1) What you probably have to do is: # rehash if you're root or $ hash if you're an ordinary user. These commands make your shell rescan the dirs in it's $PATH. > > > again thanks for helping a noob out. > No worries. A couple of tips for the future: address your questions to questions@ rather than chat@ and preface your question with the output of: $ uname -rms Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From mdh_lists at yahoo.com Tue Nov 4 18:30:33 2008 From: mdh_lists at yahoo.com (mdh) Date: Tue Nov 4 18:30:40 2008 Subject: noob question In-Reply-To: <20081105022105.GA32302@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Message-ID: <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Frank Shute wrote: > From: Frank Shute > Subject: Re: noob question > To: "david mellick" > Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 9:21 PM > > A couple of tips for the future: address your questions to > questions@ > rather than chat@ and preface your question with the output > of: > > $ uname -rms The uname -rms command only works on the HURD operating system. It returns the current running version of Richard Stallman on stdout. For FreeBSD users, I suggest the alternate uname -smr command, which returns their OSname, OSversion, and arch on stdout. - mdh From jcw at highperformance.net Tue Nov 4 18:34:24 2008 From: jcw at highperformance.net (Jason C. Wells) Date: Tue Nov 4 18:34:30 2008 Subject: noob question In-Reply-To: <147712.83284.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <147712.83284.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <491100D1.5090309@highperformance.net> david mellick wrote: > A. is that normal ^^ ? > Sure. That is just make telling you what it is doing. If make fails with an error it will report "Stop Error Code 1" or somesuch. > B. I should be able to do --version and get the version right? no matter what directory I am in? > If the program has a --version option and the binary is installed in a directory that is listed in $PATH, then yes. Not all programs have a --version option. > It is telling me command not found so did i not install it properly or do i have to be in a special directory? > > I did the echo $path command and went to all the listed locations to try and run the --version command to no avail. > If your path statement doesn't include the directory where valgrind is installed, then doing what you have tried will never find valgrind. Your path should probably include /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/sbin. Try this: find / -name prog_name to discover the location of prog_name. Then see if that directory is in your path. If the binary is installed in the $PATH, then trying to run the program from each directory is redundant. By the way, to run a program from the current working directory, you must use the command './prog_name' to be sure that you are running the command from the current directory and not some other program of the same name in a different directory listed in $PATH. In DOS, the current working directory is searched for programs before the $PATH. Not so in the typical unix shell. We typically ask questions on the freebsd-questions list. Later, Jason From frank at shute.org.uk Tue Nov 4 22:31:44 2008 From: frank at shute.org.uk (Frank Shute) Date: Tue Nov 4 22:31:52 2008 Subject: noob question In-Reply-To: <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20081105022105.GA32302@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20081105063134.GA34055@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 06:30:32PM -0800, mdh wrote: > > > > > A couple of tips for the future: address your questions to > > questions@ rather than chat@ and preface your question with the > > output of: > > > > $ uname -rms > > The uname -rms command only works on the HURD operating system. It > returns the current running version of Richard Stallman on stdout. > For FreeBSD users, I suggest the alternate uname -smr command, which > returns their OSname, OSversion, and arch on stdout. > :) If RMS runs like the HURD, then he's probably suffering from some lengthy, terminal disease ;) FreeBSD should return the OS details for uname -beast Could be used in send-pr etc. and is easy to remember like -rms! Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From alive at dienub.org Wed Nov 5 04:06:06 2008 From: alive at dienub.org (Rada alive) Date: Wed Nov 5 04:06:13 2008 Subject: noob question In-Reply-To: <20081105063134.GA34055@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20081105022105.GA32302@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20081105063134.GA34055@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 06:30:32PM -0800, mdh wrote: > > > > > > > > A couple of tips for the future: address your questions to > > > questions@ rather than chat@ and preface your question with the > > > output of: > > > > > > $ uname -rms > > > > The uname -rms command only works on the HURD operating system. It > > returns the current running version of Richard Stallman on stdout. > > For FreeBSD users, I suggest the alternate uname -smr command, which > > returns their OSname, OSversion, and arch on stdout. > > > > :) > > If RMS runs like the HURD, then he's probably suffering from some > lengthy, terminal disease ;) > > FreeBSD should return the OS details for uname -beast > > Could be used in send-pr etc. and is easy to remember like -rms! > > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > What about just using uname -a? From kdk at daleco.biz Sun Nov 9 13:36:39 2008 From: kdk at daleco.biz (Kevin Kinsey) Date: Sun Nov 9 13:36:46 2008 Subject: noob question In-Reply-To: <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <491753DC.8010109@daleco.biz> mdh wrote: > --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Frank Shute wrote: >> From: Frank Shute >> Subject: Re: noob question >> To: "david mellick" >> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org >> Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 9:21 PM >> >> A couple of tips for the future: address your questions to >> questions@ >> rather than chat@ and preface your question with the output >> of: >> >> $ uname -rms > > The uname -rms command only works on the HURD operating system. > It returns the current running version of Richard Stallman on stdout. > For FreeBSD users, I suggest the alternate uname -smr command, which > returns their OSname, OSversion, and arch on stdout. > > - mdh Perhaps we should also suggest via pr that `uname -mrs` return your wife's middle name and dates of birthday/anniversary? :-P Kevin Kinsey -- ... [concerning quotation marks] even if we *_d_i_d* quote anybody in this business, it probably would be gibberish. -- Thom McLeod From brett at lariat.net Sun Nov 9 14:16:15 2008 From: brett at lariat.net (Brett Glass) Date: Sun Nov 9 14:16:21 2008 Subject: noob question In-Reply-To: <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20081105022105.GA32302@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200811092153.OAA06701@lariat.net> At 07:30 PM 11/4/2008, mdh wrote: >The uname -rms command only works on the HURD operating >system. It returns the current running version of Richard Stallman on stdout. Alas, Richard Stallman crashes frequently and often spews pseudo-random output. >For FreeBSD users, I suggest the alternate uname -smr command, >which returns their OSname, OSversion, and arch on stdout. Or if you're a software pirate, or it's September 19th, you can always post the output of uname -arrrrrrrr --Brett Glass From frank at shute.org.uk Sun Nov 9 17:36:42 2008 From: frank at shute.org.uk (Frank Shute) Date: Sun Nov 9 17:36:49 2008 Subject: noob question In-Reply-To: References: <20081105022105.GA32302@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20081105063134.GA34055@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Message-ID: <20081110013630.GA54883@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 12:36:31PM +0100, Rada alive wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Frank Shute wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 06:30:32PM -0800, mdh wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > A couple of tips for the future: address your questions to > > > > questions@ rather than chat@ and preface your question with the > > > > output of: > > > > > > > > $ uname -rms > > > > > > The uname -rms command only works on the HURD operating system. It > > > returns the current running version of Richard Stallman on stdout. > > > For FreeBSD users, I suggest the alternate uname -smr command, which > > > returns their OSname, OSversion, and arch on stdout. > > > > > > > :) > > > > If RMS runs like the HURD, then he's probably suffering from some > > lengthy, terminal disease ;) > > > > FreeBSD should return the OS details for uname -beast > > > > Could be used in send-pr etc. and is easy to remember like -rms! > > > > > > Regards, > > > > What about just using uname -a? uname -a produces output that is > 80 chars wide & a lot of it is irrelevant if a noob is most likely running GENERIC. Just my preference though. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From brett at lariat.net Wed Nov 12 10:16:24 2008 From: brett at lariat.net (Brett Glass) Date: Wed Nov 12 10:16:30 2008 Subject: [FreeBSD-Announce] Foundation Project Announcement In-Reply-To: <491AFC2C.2030107@freebsd.org> References: <491AFC2C.2030107@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <200811121759.KAA00502@lariat.net> [Response to an announcement on the "FreeBSD-Announce" list] I hope that the project mentioned below includes an option to display a message which says, "Put that back!"... so that cached data can be written to the device and its consistency can be maintained. It might also be useful to add error recovery in situations where read-only media (e.g. a CD) is ejected. --Brett At 08:54 AM 11/12/2008, Deb Goodkin wrote: >Dear FreeBSD Community, > >The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce one of the projects from >the accepted project proposals! > >The project is to make FreeBSD tolerate the removal of active disk >devices, such as when a USB flash device with a mounted filesystems is >physically detached by a user. Currently the system may panic in this >situation. The work involves adding proper reference counting to >strategic portions of the kernel and modifying filesystems to properly >handle "device lost" errors. > >Edward Tomasz Napierala is the developer working on this project. > >"We are very excited to be able to fund this project, which we know is >of great interest to our users, especially in the desktop space," said >Robert Watson, president of The FreeBSD Foundation. > >Robert also said, "The removable USB disk causing a crash turns out to >be our #1 reported bug." > >"I am very happy to have the opportunity to work on this exciting >project," said Edward Tomasz Napierala, FreeBSD developer. "It's just >wrong when the system panics because you removed the pendrive!," he added. > >The project will be completed by February 2009. > >Sincerely, > >The FreeBSD Foundation > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-announce@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-announce >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-announce-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From dan at langille.org Wed Nov 26 13:33:29 2008 From: dan at langille.org (Dan Langille) Date: Wed Nov 26 13:33:36 2008 Subject: using VPNs to cope with IP address changes Message-ID: <492DBCBA.40204@langille.org> This weekend I plan to fix up some IP address problems using a VPN. Full details here: http://dan.langille.org/2008/11/26/avoiding-dynamic-ip-address-woes-with-a-vpn/ From kdk at daleco.biz Sat Nov 29 07:26:16 2008 From: kdk at daleco.biz (Kevin Kinsey) Date: Sat Nov 29 07:26:23 2008 Subject: using VPNs to cope with IP address changes In-Reply-To: <492DBCBA.40204@langille.org> References: <492DBCBA.40204@langille.org> Message-ID: <49315961.4070201@daleco.biz> Dan Langille wrote: > This weekend I plan to fix up some IP address problems using a VPN. Full > details here: > > http://dan.langille.org/2008/11/26/avoiding-dynamic-ip-address-woes-with-a-vpn/ I'll wish you luck ... certain, of course, that you'll get it set up in a way that is at least somewhat satisfactory. I recently dealt with this using your option #2. Again, my setup is a tad different (ipfw and /etc/hosts.allow were the two biggest items I needed to deal with). Incidentally, I note no responses on your blog just yet, and wondered if it had something to do with the CAPTCHA being Darn Near Impossible to read (IMHO)? Maybe it's just my eyes. Kevin Kinsey -- Once upon a time there... From dan at langille.org Sat Nov 29 11:46:44 2008 From: dan at langille.org (Dan Langille) Date: Sat Nov 29 11:46:51 2008 Subject: using VPNs to cope with IP address changes In-Reply-To: <49315961.4070201@daleco.biz> References: <492DBCBA.40204@langille.org> <49315961.4070201@daleco.biz> Message-ID: <4931978A.1000903@langille.org> Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Dan Langille wrote: >> This weekend I plan to fix up some IP address problems using a VPN. >> Full details here: >> >> http://dan.langille.org/2008/11/26/avoiding-dynamic-ip-address-woes-with-a-vpn/ > > > I'll wish you luck ... certain, of course, that you'll get it set up in > a way that is at least somewhat satisfactory. > > I recently dealt with this using your option #2. Again, my setup is > a tad different (ipfw and /etc/hosts.allow were the two biggest items > I needed to deal with). > > Incidentally, I note no responses on your blog just yet, and wondered > if it had something to do with the CAPTCHA being Darn Near Impossible > to read (IMHO)? Maybe it's just my eyes. Is this easier? http://dan.langille.org/wp-content/bot-check/bc-image.php?human=Wow83QpZ6AM= From dan at langille.org Sat Nov 29 13:00:22 2008 From: dan at langille.org (Dan Langille) Date: Sat Nov 29 13:00:28 2008 Subject: using VPNs to cope with IP address changes In-Reply-To: <49315961.4070201@daleco.biz> References: <492DBCBA.40204@langille.org> <49315961.4070201@daleco.biz> Message-ID: <4931AD16.9060206@langille.org> Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Dan Langille wrote: >> This weekend I plan to fix up some IP address problems using a VPN. >> Full details here: >> >> http://dan.langille.org/2008/11/26/avoiding-dynamic-ip-address-woes-with-a-vpn/ > > > I'll wish you luck ... certain, of course, that you'll get it set up in > a way that is at least somewhat satisfactory. I think so. I went with a routed (not routed(8)) VPN. It seems to work very nicely so far. > I recently dealt with this using your option #2. Again, my setup is > a tad different (ipfw and /etc/hosts.allow were the two biggest items > I needed to deal with). Thanks. I was seriously considering going the scripting route before learning more about OpenVPN. > > Incidentally, I note no responses on your blog just yet, and wondered > if it had something to do with the CAPTCHA being Darn Near Impossible > to read (IMHO)? Maybe it's just my eyes. BTW, there was one comment by Chris Buechler awaiting moderation. I have since released it. ;) From kdk at daleco.biz Sun Nov 30 13:36:54 2008 From: kdk at daleco.biz (Kevin Kinsey) Date: Sun Nov 30 13:37:01 2008 Subject: using VPNs to cope with IP address changes In-Reply-To: <4931978A.1000903@langille.org> References: <492DBCBA.40204@langille.org> <49315961.4070201@daleco.biz> <4931978A.1000903@langille.org> Message-ID: <49330766.4010301@daleco.biz> Dan Langille wrote: > Kevin Kinsey wrote: >> Incidentally, I note no responses on your blog just yet, and wondered >> if it had something to do with the CAPTCHA being Darn Near Impossible >> to read (IMHO)? Maybe it's just my eyes. > > Is this easier? > > http://dan.langille.org/wp-content/bot-check/bc-image.php?human=Wow83QpZ6AM= A little bit, yes. In particular, and again, it's just me [*blush*]... I just noted that it helps to be closer than 30" from the CRT if I want to read the image. And re: someone's comment (private to both of us) about machine reading, I've no idea how good the botz are at that, so I'd not let my comments affect your bot blocking unless you get more opinions on it. Or find the botz can read it ;-) I do appreciate what you do for the community at large, Dan. Kevin Kinsey -- A sine curve goes off to infinity, or at least the end of the blackboard. -- Prof. Steiner