From conrads at cox.net Mon Aug 4 02:21:07 2008 From: conrads at cox.net (Conrad J. Sabatier) Date: Mon Aug 4 02:21:15 2008 Subject: Stop Adobe Flash Petition In-Reply-To: <20080626103955.GA28128@rwxrwxrwx.net> References: <20080626103955.GA28128@rwxrwxrwx.net> Message-ID: <20080803210711.6a0612a8@serene.no-ip.org> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:39:55 +0200 Martin Tournoij wrote: > Sign it here: > > http://www.petitiononline.com/0034655a/petition.html [snip] Well, personally, I'd rather light a candle than curse the darkness, so... Today, I fetched the repo sources for the "HEAD" version of gnash, built and installed it, and I must say, it's working far better than the latest release version (0.8.3). Sites that wouldn't work properly before are now displaying beautifully. Here's a good example of a site that would break before, but works now: http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/units/addiction/drugs/mouse.cfm See http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/#downloading for info on how to obtain the sources. You'll need to install devel/bazaar-ng (yes, yet another version control system!) to fetch the code. To configure, I ran "gnash -V" using the existing (0.8.3) version and copied the configuration switches from the resulting output. Then ran gmake to build and install (after pkg_deleting the old version, of course). I'm pleased with the results. Still not 100% perfect, but a whole heck of a lot better. -- PROOF OF GOD #391. ARGUMENT FROM UNDERSTANDING (1) You're not meant to understand. (2) Therefore, God exists. From nawcom at nawcom.com Mon Aug 4 04:01:28 2008 From: nawcom at nawcom.com (nawcom) Date: Mon Aug 4 04:01:34 2008 Subject: Stop Adobe Flash Petition In-Reply-To: <20080803210711.6a0612a8@serene.no-ip.org> References: <20080626103955.GA28128@rwxrwxrwx.net> <20080803210711.6a0612a8@serene.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <4896444E.3000002@nawcom.com> I checked out the flash at the University of Utah site, and I must say it is impressive for gnash. Looks like that swf was made with Flash 7, or at least that's its minimum requirement. Unfortunately, gnash has a while to go, as it will never be in a satisfactory state until - it loads YouTube videos. Yes, ridiculous, but true, since I'm sure that is one of the many flash sites that people want to load. :( -Ben Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:39:55 +0200 > Martin Tournoij wrote: > > >> Sign it here: >> >> http://www.petitiononline.com/0034655a/petition.html >> > > [snip] > > Well, personally, I'd rather light a candle than curse the darkness, so... > > Today, I fetched the repo sources for the "HEAD" version of gnash, built > and installed it, and I must say, it's working far better than the > latest release version (0.8.3). Sites that wouldn't work properly > before are now displaying beautifully. Here's a good example of a site > that would break before, but works now: > > http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/units/addiction/drugs/mouse.cfm > > See http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/#downloading for info on how to > obtain the sources. You'll need to install devel/bazaar-ng (yes, yet > another version control system!) to fetch the code. > > To configure, I ran "gnash -V" using the existing (0.8.3) version and > copied the configuration switches from the resulting output. Then ran > gmake to build and install (after pkg_deleting the old version, of > course). > > I'm pleased with the results. Still not 100% perfect, but a whole heck > of a lot better. > > From conrads at cox.net Mon Aug 4 04:30:29 2008 From: conrads at cox.net (Conrad J. Sabatier) Date: Mon Aug 4 04:30:36 2008 Subject: Stop Adobe Flash Petition In-Reply-To: <4896444E.3000002@nawcom.com> References: <20080626103955.GA28128@rwxrwxrwx.net> <20080803210711.6a0612a8@serene.no-ip.org> <4896444E.3000002@nawcom.com> Message-ID: <20080803233025.5052693a@serene.no-ip.org> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:50:38 +0000 nawcom wrote: > I checked out the flash at the University of Utah site, and I must say > it is impressive for gnash. Looks like that swf was made with Flash 7, > or at least that's its minimum requirement. Unfortunately, gnash has a > while to go, as it will never be in a satisfactory state until - it > loads YouTube videos. Yes, ridiculous, but true, since I'm sure that is > one of the many flash sites that people want to load. :( > -Ben I've watched YouTube videos with Gnash, even with version 0.8.3. Not *all* of them worked, mind you, but quite a substantial number. Here's one of my favorites (a real hoot, actually; a "translation", with accompanying "visual aids", of what Joe Cocker was actually singing at Woodstock) :-) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4_MsrsKzMM > Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:39:55 +0200 > > Martin Tournoij wrote: > > > > > >> Sign it here: > >> > >> http://www.petitiononline.com/0034655a/petition.html > >> > > > > [snip] > > > > Well, personally, I'd rather light a candle than curse the darkness, > > so... > > > > Today, I fetched the repo sources for the "HEAD" version of gnash, > > built and installed it, and I must say, it's working far better than > > the latest release version (0.8.3). Sites that wouldn't work properly > > before are now displaying beautifully. Here's a good example of a > > site that would break before, but works now: > > > > http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/units/addiction/drugs/mouse.cfm > > > > See http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/#downloading for info on how to > > obtain the sources. You'll need to install devel/bazaar-ng (yes, yet > > another version control system!) to fetch the code. > > > > To configure, I ran "gnash -V" using the existing (0.8.3) version and > > copied the configuration switches from the resulting output. Then ran > > gmake to build and install (after pkg_deleting the old version, of > > course). > > > > I'm pleased with the results. Still not 100% perfect, but a whole > > heck of a lot better. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- PROOF OF GOD #348. ARGUMENT FROM DICTATORSHIP (1) Dictators do not believe in God. (2) Dictators are wrong. (3) Therefore, God exists. From conrads at cox.net Mon Aug 4 04:49:43 2008 From: conrads at cox.net (Conrad J. Sabatier) Date: Mon Aug 4 04:49:49 2008 Subject: Stop Adobe Flash Petition In-Reply-To: <20080803233025.5052693a@serene.no-ip.org> References: <20080626103955.GA28128@rwxrwxrwx.net> <20080803210711.6a0612a8@serene.no-ip.org> <4896444E.3000002@nawcom.com> <20080803233025.5052693a@serene.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <20080803234940.69f6e00e@serene.no-ip.org> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:30:25 -0500 "Conrad J. Sabatier" wrote: > On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:50:38 +0000 > nawcom wrote: > > > I checked out the flash at the University of Utah site, and I must > > say it is impressive for gnash. Looks like that swf was made with > > Flash 7, or at least that's its minimum requirement. Unfortunately, > > gnash has a while to go, as it will never be in a satisfactory state > > until - it loads YouTube videos. Yes, ridiculous, but true, since I'm > > sure that is one of the many flash sites that people want to load. :( > > -Ben > > I've watched YouTube videos with Gnash, even with version 0.8.3. Not > *all* of them worked, mind you, but quite a substantial number. > > Here's one of my favorites (a real hoot, actually; a "translation", with > accompanying "visual aids", of what Joe Cocker was actually singing at > Woodstock) :-) : > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4_MsrsKzMM Hmmm, wouldn't you know, now it's not working. :-( I think I must have watched this one before in linux-firefox. -- PROOF OF GOD #100. ARGUMENT FROM PRAYER (1) God exists. (2) [Atheist makes counterarguments.] (3) You have my prayers. From deischen at freebsd.org Mon Aug 4 05:17:02 2008 From: deischen at freebsd.org (Daniel Eischen) Date: Mon Aug 4 05:17:08 2008 Subject: Stop Adobe Flash Petition In-Reply-To: <20080803233025.5052693a@serene.no-ip.org> References: <20080626103955.GA28128@rwxrwxrwx.net> <20080803210711.6a0612a8@serene.no-ip.org> <4896444E.3000002@nawcom.com> <20080803233025.5052693a@serene.no-ip.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 3 Aug 2008, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:50:38 +0000 > nawcom wrote: > >> I checked out the flash at the University of Utah site, and I must say >> it is impressive for gnash. Looks like that swf was made with Flash 7, >> or at least that's its minimum requirement. Unfortunately, gnash has a >> while to go, as it will never be in a satisfactory state until - it >> loads YouTube videos. Yes, ridiculous, but true, since I'm sure that is >> one of the many flash sites that people want to load. :( >> -Ben > > I've watched YouTube videos with Gnash, even with version 0.8.3. Not > *all* of them worked, mind you, but quite a substantial number. > > Here's one of my favorites (a real hoot, actually; a "translation", with > accompanying "visual aids", of what Joe Cocker was actually singing at > Woodstock) :-) : > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4_MsrsKzMM I've got 3 computers and gnash only works fairly well with youtube videos on one of the computers (a laptop with an Intel 945GM, on an ATI radeon mobility M7 7500 and a Matrox MGA G200 it does not). Not sure why. Some basic flash videos work fine in all 3, but some flash files only work on the Intel 945GM-based laptop. All 3 computers are running identical 8.0-current and ports (all ports were built on one of the systems and packaged, then installed on the other 2). This is gnash-devel. YMMV... -- DE From olli at lurza.secnetix.de Mon Aug 4 11:44:46 2008 From: olli at lurza.secnetix.de (Oliver Fromme) Date: Mon Aug 4 11:44:52 2008 Subject: Stop Adobe Flash Petition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200808041127.m74BRqOM070802@lurza.secnetix.de> Daniel Eischen wrote: > Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > nawcom wrote: > > > I checked out the flash at the University of Utah site, and I must say > > > it is impressive for gnash. Looks like that swf was made with Flash 7, > > > or at least that's its minimum requirement. Unfortunately, gnash has a > > > while to go, as it will never be in a satisfactory state until - it > > > loads YouTube videos. Yes, ridiculous, but true, since I'm sure that is > > > one of the many flash sites that people want to load. :( > > > > I've watched YouTube videos with Gnash, even with version 0.8.3. Not > > *all* of them worked, mind you, but quite a substantial number. > > > > Here's one of my favorites (a real hoot, actually; a "translation", with > > accompanying "visual aids", of what Joe Cocker was actually singing at > > Woodstock) :-) : > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4_MsrsKzMM > > I've got 3 computers and gnash only works fairly well with youtube > videos on one of the computers (a laptop with an Intel 945GM, on > an ATI radeon mobility M7 7500 and a Matrox MGA G200 it does not). > Not sure why. Some basic flash videos work fine in all 3, but > some flash files only work on the Intel 945GM-based laptop. > All 3 computers are running identical 8.0-current and ports > (all ports were built on one of the systems and packaged, then > installed on the other 2). This is gnash-devel. Just in case this is useful for somebody ... There is a small conmmandline tool to download youtube videos: ports/www/youtube_dl. Given the URL it downloads the video into a .flv file that can be played with mplayer or other standalone video players. Sure, it's not the same as watching the video inside the browser page, but it's better than nothing. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Gesch?ftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht M?n- chen, HRB 125758, Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "It combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript." -- Jamie Zawinski, when asked: "What's wrong with perl?" From carpetsmoker at rwxrwxrwx.net Mon Aug 4 12:21:51 2008 From: carpetsmoker at rwxrwxrwx.net (Martin Tournoij) Date: Mon Aug 4 12:21:58 2008 Subject: Stop Adobe Flash Petition In-Reply-To: <200808041127.m74BRqOM070802@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200808041127.m74BRqOM070802@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: <20080804121017.GA61669@rwxrwxrwx.net> On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 01:27:52PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Just in case this is useful for somebody ... There is > a small conmmandline tool to download youtube videos: > ports/www/youtube_dl. Given the URL it downloads the > video into a .flv file that can be played with mplayer > or other standalone video players. Sure, it's not the > same as watching the video inside the browser page, but > it's better than nothing. > > Best regards > Oliver There's also multimedia/clive, which works for a few other sites too (like google video) and also does some other magic (Like recoding the video to mp4, which works better in mplayer). -- Martin Tournoij carpetsmoker@rwxrwxrwx.net http://www.daemonforums.org QOTD: Too often I find that the volume of paper expands to fill the available briefcases. -- Governor Jerry Brown From info at tecodryer.com Wed Aug 6 21:21:08 2008 From: info at tecodryer.com (TECO DRYER) Date: Wed Aug 6 21:21:14 2008 Subject: Teco Industry is in the business of corn, wheat, paddy, and Message-ID: <20080806212107.C24008FC14@mx1.freebsd.org> vegetable dr Sender: "TECO DRYER" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 00:12:21 +0300 Message-ID: <20080806211221871.3DB537007BC17710@erkan-e90bf8060> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Teco Industry is in the business of corn, wheat, paddy, and vegetable drying machines and the production and marketing of silo & steel construction. 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Message-ID: Looking for an "open" protocol, open source voice phone client that works without using Linux emulation -- and can work with more than two clients in a conference call situation. And having Windows and MacOS X clients is fine too. But client is not needed as long as the protocol is standard for existing clients there too. (I do have access to a Asterisk server, but I want to attempt this without using a server. If that isn't doable, please let me know and I will then use the Asterisk server.) The goal is to get rid of proprietary Skype for BSD-focused conference calls. I don't know SIP or H.323 -- do these require a server or can multiple clients connect to each other for a working conference phone call? I don't need connections to real phone network. What do you use? Any recommendations? In ports, I see: cphone, kphone, linphone, ohphone, ekiga, kiax. I also read about PhoneGaim, tkphone, KCall, SFLPhone, wengophone, and Twinkle. So many choices, need to know where to begin. Any pointers to URLs on experiences on FreeBSD would be great. Thanks! From lists at stringsutils.com Mon Aug 18 03:30:16 2008 From: lists at stringsutils.com (Francisco Reyes) Date: Mon Aug 18 03:30:23 2008 Subject: [OT] Anti-spam service? Message-ID: Tried Postini and the fact they are in business is a testament of the patient people have. Their interface has to be one of the worst I have seen in a while. Sure I could figure it out, but the intent is to find a service one of my clients can use directly without having to call me. Anyone happily using any service that a non techie user could manage? Service must have a quarantine area where users can go check spam that got trapped. Thanks for any recommendations. From angus at fairhaven.za.net Mon Aug 18 12:22:43 2008 From: angus at fairhaven.za.net (Angus Robinson) Date: Mon Aug 18 12:22:52 2008 Subject: projects for wrt54gl Message-ID: <48A96419.2010608@fairhaven.za.net> Hi Not to sure if this list caters this. I have a linksys wrt54gl wireless router (the cisco open source AP) and would like to know if there is a *BSD projects out there for this AP (i know there are a few linux ones), or if IPFW2 can be sucessfully compiled on linux. I have had a look on google with not much sucess. Sorry if this is the wrong list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys_WRT54G_series Regards, Angus From olli at lurza.secnetix.de Mon Aug 18 12:53:32 2008 From: olli at lurza.secnetix.de (Oliver Fromme) Date: Mon Aug 18 12:53:39 2008 Subject: projects for wrt54gl In-Reply-To: <48A96419.2010608@fairhaven.za.net> Message-ID: <200808181252.m7ICqIBv045436@lurza.secnetix.de> Angus Robinson wrote: > Not to sure if this list caters this. I have a linksys wrt54gl wireless > router (the cisco open source AP) and would like to know if there is a > *BSD projects out there for this AP (i know there are a few linux ones), > or if IPFW2 can be sucessfully compiled on linux. I have had a look on > google with not much sucess. Sorry if this is the wrong list. AFAIK no BSD project currently supports that platform. I think NetBSD/sbmips comes closest, but it would still require a lot of work to adapt it, and you still wouldn't have IPFW (which is FreeBSD-only). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Gesch?ftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht M?n- chen, HRB 125758, Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "We will perhaps eventually be writing only small modules which are identi- fied by name as they are used to build larger ones, so that devices like indentation, rather than delimiters, might become feasible for expressing local structure in the source language." -- Donald E. Knuth, 1974 From max at love2party.net Mon Aug 18 12:59:57 2008 From: max at love2party.net (Max Laier) Date: Mon Aug 18 13:00:04 2008 Subject: projects for wrt54gl In-Reply-To: <48A96419.2010608@fairhaven.za.net> References: <48A96419.2010608@fairhaven.za.net> Message-ID: <200808181447.19210.max@love2party.net> On Monday 18 August 2008 13:59:21 Angus Robinson wrote: > Not to sure if this list caters this. I have a linksys wrt54gl wireless > router (the cisco open source AP) and would like to know if there is a > *BSD projects out there for this AP (i know there are a few linux ones), > or if IPFW2 can be sucessfully compiled on linux. I have had a look on > google with not much sucess. Sorry if this is the wrong list. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys_WRT54G_series This is powered by a MIPS based SoC. The FreeBSD/mips port is not ready for prime time, yet ... but the wrt54gXX should be a possible target once it is. NetBSD has a mips32 port, but it seems that there are boot problems with the wrt54 As of now, it seems that *BSD is a no-go on this device - sorry. -- /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From angus at fairhaven.za.net Mon Aug 18 15:09:07 2008 From: angus at fairhaven.za.net (Angus Robinson) Date: Mon Aug 18 15:09:15 2008 Subject: projects for wrt54gl In-Reply-To: <200808181252.m7ICqIBv045436@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200808181252.m7ICqIBv045436@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: <48A9914A.5090307@fairhaven.za.net> Oliver Fromme wrote: > Angus Robinson wrote: > > Not to sure if this list caters this. I have a linksys wrt54gl wireless > > router (the cisco open source AP) and would like to know if there is a > > *BSD projects out there for this AP (i know there are a few linux ones), > > or if IPFW2 can be sucessfully compiled on linux. I have had a look on > > google with not much sucess. Sorry if this is the wrong list. > > AFAIK no BSD project currently supports that platform. > I think NetBSD/sbmips comes closest, but it would still > require a lot of work to adapt it, and you still wouldn't > have IPFW (which is FreeBSD-only). > > Best regards > Oliver > > Hi Thanks to all that responded. Thought as much but was just making sure Regards, Angus From haro at kgt.co.jp Mon Aug 25 09:49:55 2008 From: haro at kgt.co.jp (haro@kgt.co.jp) Date: Mon Aug 25 09:50:02 2008 Subject: 64bit Flash support for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20080825.183720.133235769.haro@kgt.co.jp> Hi all, I just read a ZDNet article, referencing a demo of 64bit version of Adobe Flash Player on FreeBSD. http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=517 Is this coming as real?? Thanks, Haro =----------------------------------------------------------------------- _ _ Munehiro (haro) Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| KGT Inc. /|\ |_| |_|_| 2-8-8 Shinjuku, Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 160-0022, Japan From personrp at UPMC.EDU Mon Aug 25 12:50:26 2008 From: personrp at UPMC.EDU (Person, Roderick) Date: Mon Aug 25 12:50:33 2008 Subject: 64bit Flash support for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <20080825.183720.133235769.haro@kgt.co.jp> Message-ID: There is nothing here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html Rod Person Sr. Programmer (412)454-2616 http://www.ccbh.com "The fact that my implementation is different from your implementation is totally irrelevant - it works therefore it cannot be wrong." - Tony Marston Software Engineer > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of haro@kgt.co.jp > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:37 AM > To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Subject: 64bit Flash support for FreeBSD? > > Hi all, > > I just read a ZDNet article, referencing a demo of 64bit > version of Adobe Flash Player on FreeBSD. > > http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=517 > > Is this coming as real?? > > Thanks, > Haro > =------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > _ _ Munehiro (haro) Matsuda > -|- /_\ |_|_| KGT Inc. > /|\ |_| |_|_| 2-8-8 Shinjuku, Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 160-0022, Japan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From nawcom at nawcom.com Mon Aug 25 14:13:44 2008 From: nawcom at nawcom.com (nawcom) Date: Mon Aug 25 14:13:50 2008 Subject: 64bit Flash support for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <20080825.183720.133235769.haro@kgt.co.jp> References: <20080825.183720.133235769.haro@kgt.co.jp> Message-ID: <48B2BF8A.2070802@nawcom.com> Some references to it from inside the company: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/08/random_blog_post.html which gives the link to a flash developer for Sony: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/08/random_blog_post.html "I just watched Tinic from the Flash Player team demo two 64bit versions of Flash Player 10 here at FlashForward. One on Unbunu Linux and the other running on FreeBSD. Tinic also showed a 32bit version of the FreeBSD player. At this point however, there if no solid plan for release." It looks like if you find any news about the new 64 bit player, you'll find it on the blog site of the person who engineers flash for adobe, Tinic. http://www.kaourantin.net/ haro@kgt.co.jp wrote: > Hi all, > > I just read a ZDNet article, referencing a demo of 64bit version of > Adobe Flash Player on FreeBSD. > > http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=517 > > Is this coming as real?? > > Thanks, > Haro > =----------------------------------------------------------------------- > _ _ Munehiro (haro) Matsuda > -|- /_\ |_|_| KGT Inc. > /|\ |_| |_|_| 2-8-8 Shinjuku, Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 160-0022, Japan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From nawcom at nawcom.com Mon Aug 25 14:19:19 2008 From: nawcom at nawcom.com (nawcom) Date: Mon Aug 25 14:19:26 2008 Subject: 64bit Flash support for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <48B2BF8A.2070802@nawcom.com> References: <20080825.183720.133235769.haro@kgt.co.jp> <48B2BF8A.2070802@nawcom.com> Message-ID: <48B2C0D7.2050609@nawcom.com> Hah! looks like that second link didn't copy over right :-P http://thebackbutton.com/blog/73/64-bit-linux-freebsd-flash-player-exists/ nawcom wrote: > Some references to it from inside the company: > http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/08/random_blog_post.html > > which gives the link to a flash developer for Sony: > http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/08/random_blog_post.html > "I just watched Tinic from the Flash Player team demo two 64bit > versions of Flash Player 10 here at FlashForward. One on Unbunu Linux > and the other running on FreeBSD. Tinic also showed a 32bit version of > the FreeBSD player. At this point however, there if no solid plan for > release." > > It looks like if you find any news about the new 64 bit player, you'll > find it on the blog site of the person who engineers flash for adobe, > Tinic. http://www.kaourantin.net/ > > haro@kgt.co.jp wrote: >> Hi all, >> I just read a ZDNet article, referencing a demo of 64bit version of >> Adobe Flash Player on FreeBSD. >> >> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=517 >> >> Is this coming as real?? >> >> Thanks, >> Haro >> =----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> _ _ Munehiro (haro) Matsuda >> -|- /_\ |_|_| KGT Inc. >> /|\ |_| |_|_| 2-8-8 Shinjuku, Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 160-0022, Japan >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From koji at dgp.toronto.edu Tue Aug 26 17:52:01 2008 From: koji at dgp.toronto.edu (Koji Yatani) Date: Tue Aug 26 17:52:08 2008 Subject: looking for volunteers for a study Message-ID: <7b9301e10808261020q7e2fffdep43ccfff71aa0485f@mail.gmail.com> Dear FreeBSD members, We are currently conducting a study to understand how developers communicate and collaborate in an Open Source Software (OSS) project. Now we are seeking volunteers for our interview. Any person who is actively working in an OSS project is eligible to our study (If you don't know if you are eligible, please contact me (Koji Yatani, koji@dgp.toronto.edu).) The interview will take 45 - 60 minutes and the volunteers will be given a $30 Amazon gift certificate. The interview will be done over the phone. We will anonymize the identity of the volunteers in the subsequent analysis and publication. If you are interested in the participation or have any question, please feel free to ask me (Koji Yatani, koji@dgp.toronto.edu). Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------- Koji Yatani (koji@dgp.toronto.edu) Ph.D. Candidate Dynamic Graphics Project Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~koji/ --------------------------------------------------------- From kdk at daleco.biz Wed Aug 27 01:25:04 2008 From: kdk at daleco.biz (Kevin Kinsey) Date: Wed Aug 27 01:25:14 2008 Subject: I can't make world without the "games" group? In-Reply-To: References: <87abf487wg.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87abezx5yr.fsf@kobe.laptop> Message-ID: <48B4A959.7050700@daleco.biz> Redd Vinylene wrote: > > I'm not entirely sure I understand what you're saying here, but it's > certainly not related to what Mr. Exupery was saying. You can't sell > someone a new car full of obsolete parts, saying "now you have the > freedom to choose what parts _you_ want to keep", that's just > ridiculous. Next thing you know the person will die in a car crash. But FreeBSD might not be a car[1]. Maybe it's a piano. And a piano that can play just as beautifully, in tune, and even loudly (and yes, that was the pianoforte's strong point in 1709) as any modern piano, but also has the distinctive odor of Brahms' cathouse and a couple of dents on the fallboard where Beethoven dropped his ear-trumpet. I think Exupery would have understood the significant additional value of such an instrument. For those who don't appreciate such things, it an operating system in tune with its past, ready for work in the present and with hope for the future, if those who use it will support it. Kevin Kinsey -- If a guru falls in the forest with no one to hear him, was he really a guru at all? -- Strange de Jim, The Metasexuals [1] This analogy is dead by bludgeoning on the 'Net, but for reference's sake: http://www-personal.edfac.usyd.edu.au/staff/souters/Humour/bg+gm.html From des at des.no Wed Aug 27 09:42:24 2008 From: des at des.no (=?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?=) Date: Wed Aug 27 09:42:31 2008 Subject: I can't make world without the "games" group? In-Reply-To: <48B4A959.7050700@daleco.biz> (Kevin Kinsey's message of "Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:09:45 -0500") References: <87abf487wg.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87abezx5yr.fsf@kobe.laptop> <48B4A959.7050700@daleco.biz> Message-ID: <86vdxm7qsy.fsf@ds4.des.no> Kevin Kinsey writes: > But FreeBSD might not be a car[1]. Maybe it's a piano. And a piano > that can play just as beautifully, in tune, and even loudly (and yes, > that was the pianoforte's strong point in 1709) as any modern piano, Quite the opposite, the pianoforte's forte was its ability to play piano. DES -- Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav - des@des.no From kdk at daleco.biz Wed Aug 27 12:58:50 2008 From: kdk at daleco.biz (Kevin Kinsey) Date: Wed Aug 27 12:58:57 2008 Subject: I can't make world without the "games" group? In-Reply-To: <86vdxm7qsy.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <87abf487wg.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87abezx5yr.fsf@kobe.laptop> <48B4A959.7050700@daleco.biz> <86vdxm7qsy.fsf@ds4.des.no> Message-ID: <48B54F6E.10900@daleco.biz> Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > Kevin Kinsey writes: >> But FreeBSD might not be a car[1]. Maybe it's a piano. And a piano >> that can play just as beautifully, in tune, and even loudly (and yes, >> that was the pianoforte's strong point in 1709) as any modern piano, > > Quite the opposite, the pianoforte's forte was its ability to play > piano. > > DES Well, I suppose that it could play any dynamics at all. Clavs and harpsichords weren't so good at it, but, also, if you banged them as hard as some of the Romantics did, you'd have knocked them to bits. So, you're correct, in 1709, it was probably "piano" that was noticeable, but by 1860, maybe the other way'round? At any rate, thanks for an excellent contribution to the thread, and a wonderful example of the complexities of the English language (gotta love reading that one out "forte" seven times quickly) :-) Kevin Kinsey -- ... A booming voice says, Wrong, cretin!, and you notice that you have turned into a pile of dust. From freebsdworld at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 14:44:31 2008 From: freebsdworld at gmail.com (Benjamin Adams) Date: Wed Aug 27 14:44:37 2008 Subject: FreeBSD Payment Gateway Message-ID: <6199c3dc0808270713r330aaa44lc82b51818d0b50b9@mail.gmail.com> I'm creating a php website to except credit cards. What is a good payment gateway to use on the php site. Also work good with freebsd of course. Thanks From des at des.no Wed Aug 27 15:37:06 2008 From: des at des.no (=?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?=) Date: Wed Aug 27 15:37:13 2008 Subject: I can't make world without the "games" group? In-Reply-To: (illoai@gmail.com's message of "Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:33:24 -0500") References: <87abf487wg.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87abezx5yr.fsf@kobe.laptop> <48B4A959.7050700@daleco.biz> <86vdxm7qsy.fsf@ds4.des.no> <48B54F6E.10900@daleco.biz> Message-ID: <86od3e5v1a.fsf@ds4.des.no> "illoai@gmail.com" writes: > I like the (unintentional, perhaps) pun with "strong point". > > http://www.wordreference.com/iten/forte > http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=forte Thank you, Captain Obvious! DES -- Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav - des@des.no From illoai at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 16:02:20 2008 From: illoai at gmail.com (illoai@gmail.com) Date: Wed Aug 27 16:02:28 2008 Subject: I can't make world without the "games" group? In-Reply-To: <48B54F6E.10900@daleco.biz> References: <87abf487wg.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87abezx5yr.fsf@kobe.laptop> <48B4A959.7050700@daleco.biz> <86vdxm7qsy.fsf@ds4.des.no> <48B54F6E.10900@daleco.biz> Message-ID: 2008/8/27 Kevin Kinsey : > Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: >> >> Kevin Kinsey writes: >>> >>> But FreeBSD might not be a car[1]. Maybe it's a piano. And a piano >>> that can play just as beautifully, in tune, and even loudly (and yes, >>> that was the pianoforte's strong point in 1709) as any modern piano, >> >> Quite the opposite, the pianoforte's forte was its ability to play >> piano. >> >> DES > > Well, I suppose that it could play any dynamics at all. Clavs > and harpsichords weren't so good at it, but, also, if you banged > them as hard as some of the Romantics did, you'd have knocked them > to bits. > > So, you're correct, in 1709, it was probably "piano" that was > noticeable, but by 1860, maybe the other way'round? At any rate, thanks > for an excellent contribution to the thread, and a wonderful example > of the complexities of the English language (gotta love reading that > one out "forte" seven times quickly) :-) > I like the (unintentional, perhaps) pun with "strong point". http://www.wordreference.com/iten/forte http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=forte -- --