At 11:46 PM 10/30/2004, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >You obviously never heard of this, then: > >ftp://sunrise.ipinc.net/pub/why-cooperation-with-rms-is-impossible.mp3 Sure I have. I even have a better version that's much less painful to listen to. It's called "RMS meets El Kabong." See (or, rather, hear) http://www.brettglass.com/rms.mp3 --Brett