blind blocking [was Re: kern/96157...]
bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com
Thu Oct 28 13:19:48 UTC 2010
> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:06:43 +0000
> From: Mark Linimon <linimon at lonesome.com>
> To: Jaakko Heinonen <jh at freebsd.org>
> Cc: freebsd-bugs at freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg at tristatelogic.com>
> Subject: Re: kern/96157: Subtle incompatability of FreeBSD and LITE-ON
> SOHW-1673s drive
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 04:25:21PM +0300, Jaakko Heinonen wrote:
> > I am sorry but I don't think that we can realistically expect developers
> > to go through such hoops to just reach a PR submitter. Thus by closing
> > the PR I will also save time of the next person trying to contact the
> > submitter.
> I'm going to have to side with Jaakko on this one. Due to the sheer
> number of PRs that we receive, we simply can't take tens of minutes, or
> hours, on all of them. (For the past several years we have only been
> able to keep the total number of PRs from rising too much.) jh@ and others
> have been doing great work to try to prune the stale ones, so that we can
> more easily see the others.
> I sympathise with the OP about having to have all the anti-spam measures
> in place; I've had my email address for over 10 years now and have tried
> various combinations of razor wire, boiling oil, and so forth. But the
> reality is that if we're getting 60+ PRs/day, not every one is going to
> get the time it deserves.
There is also a small matter of -who- is askin *WHOM* for help. If the
person making the request puts up barriers, of -any- sort, to the people
he's asking for help from, he deserves whatever happens.
Rather than making people who are responding to _his_ message jump through
hoops, and spending -his- 'oh, so valuable' time bitching when they -choose-
not to do so, he wuold be much better off improving the selectivity of his
mail filtering system. With _very_ little effort, on can quite reliably
detect (in roughly 10 -million- pieces of spam, I have had -one- false
positive on detecting a 'reply' -- And i'm using the "simplest/dumbest"
*possible* methodology for doing so) a reply to a message you, yourself,
have sent. That should be an automatic bypass of virtually -all- other
checking of the message. This is -especially- true, when sending mail to
any sort of an 'aggregate' address (of which a mailing-list is but one
example), where one does -not- know where a 'valid' response is going to
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