BIND in the base (Was: Re: tmux(1) in base)

Steve Kargl sgk at
Tue Sep 22 21:31:28 UTC 2009

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 05:29:25PM -0300, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
> On 9/22/09, Gregory Shapiro <gshapiro at> wrote:
> >> I suppose it doesn't matter to you that sendmail is actually
> >> maintained by Greg Shapiro, VP, CTO of Sendmail, Inc.
> >
> > While I appreciate the vote of confidence, it doesn't, and it shouldn't.
> > I'll continue to maintain sendmail in the base as long as it is welcome
> > there.  If the project wants it moved out, that is not up to me (though
> > I hope it stays).
> >
> > I haven't spent a lot of time looking at DMA, but some requirements that
> > pop to mind for it to be a replacement would be things like accepting
> > local mail via SMTP (e.g., for MUAs which use SMTP submission) and
> > supporting STARTTLS and SMTP AUTH for talking to the upstream MTA.
> Dear Mr. Gregory Shapiro:
> I'm writing this letter to let you know that I have nothing personal
> against either your person, your professional work, your contributions
> to the FreeBSD project, your personal and professional merits or
> anything at all.
> I was prompt with an dubiously honest question and I replied with an
> honest answer, as I know no other way, and yet still stand in the
> belief that the use of names as means to declare any authority, be it
> moral or otherwise, constitutes no truth nor does any good to reason.

Then you completely missed the point of my response.  sendmail
is being maintained the people that actual wrote the code.  If
dma replaces sendmail, will the authors of dma become FreeBSD
committers and maintain dma in the same manner that sendmail
has been maintained.


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