RFC: Removing file(1)+libmagic(3) from the base system

Alexander Leidinger Alexander at Leidinger.net
Thu May 24 08:05:11 UTC 2007


Quoting Colin Percival <cperciva at freebsd.org> (from Thu, 24 May 2007  
00:10:35 -0700):

> M. Warner Losh wrote:
>> I would argue that it would make the system LESS secure, because one
>> loses the ability to identify files on the system.  People are going
>> to install it anyway, and it is a jump ball as to whether having it in
>> the base system would cause vulnerabilities to be updated faster than
>> having it in ports (both the actual update in the system, as well as
>> the user causing the update to happen: ports are a touch easier to
>> update, but lag a bit both in terms of people updating their ports
>> tree and ports committers updating the port).
>
> Interestingly, my experience from portsnap is that people tend to update
> ports more frequently than they apply security patches to the base system.

You can say people tend to update the ports collection, you don't know  
about the ports (as in "installed ports"). I have several systems  
(behind a proxy) which update the ports collection every day. But the  
ports there are not updated that often. I also know about several  
systems where the ports collection is updated every day, but the  
installed ports are only touched if a client ask about a new software  
or an update, which is maybe once a year.

I also like to keep file in the base. It's too damn useful there.

Bye,
Alexander.

-- 
He who hesitates is last.

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