scheduler (sched_4bsd) questions

Brian Fundakowski Feldman green at freebsd.org
Mon Sep 27 06:05:08 PDT 2004


On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 02:00:20PM -0400, Stephan Uphoff wrote:
> On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 13:42, Stephan Uphoff wrote:
> > On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 21:20, Julian Elischer wrote:
> > > Stephan Uphoff wrote:
> > > >I am also stomped by the special case of adding a thread X with better
> > > >priority than the current thread to the runqueue if they belong to the
> > > >same ksegroup. In this case both kg_last_assigned and kg_avail_opennings
> > > >might be zero and setrunqueue() will not call sched_add().
> > > >Because of this it looks like the current thread will neither be
> > > >preempted not will TDF_NEEDRESCHED be set to force rescheduling at the
> > > >kernel boundary.
> > > >This situation should resolve itself at the next sched_switch - however
> > > >this might take a long time. (Especially if essential interrupt threads
> > > >are blocked by mutexes held by thread X)
> > > >
> > >
> > > you are correct. I am not yet  preempting a running thread with a lesser
> > > priority if they are siblings
> > > (unless there is a slot available) Thsi is not becasue I don't want to
> > > do it, but simply because it has not been done yet..
> > > we did have NO preemption, so having "some" preemption is still better
> > > than where we were.
> > >  Special case code to check curthread for a preemption could be done but
> > > at the moment  the decision code for
> > > whether to preempt or not is in maybe_preempt() and I don't want  to
> > > duplicate that. it is on th edrawing board though.
> > > The other thing is, that even if we should be able to preempt a running
> > > thread, there is no guarantee that it is on THIS
> > > CPU.  It may be on another CPU and that gets nasty in a hurry.
> > 
> > Yes .. this could get nasty.
> > This happens when the thread is bound to another cpu or someone changed
> > thr_concurrency - otherwise the current thread must be a sibling right ?
> > 
> > Maybe something brutal like:
> > 	if ((curthread->td_ksegrp == kg) &&
> > 	   (td->td_priority > curthread->td_priority))
> > 		curthread->td_flags |= TDF_NEEDRESCHED;
> > 
> > in setrunqueue for
> > the else case of "if (kg->kg_avail_opennings > 0)"
> > would do the trick (without preemption) for the easy but probably more
> > common cases?
> > 
> > Maybe I can find some time next week to think about a clean
> > fix. I find it always helpful having a small task in mind while reading
> > source code.
> 
> I wrote a fix that should cover all cases.
> However I would like to test it a little bit before posting the patch.
> Is there any multi-threaded kernel torture program that you can
> recommend?

It wasn't particularly designed as such but the utility in the
src/tools/regression/gaithrstress/ directory is very quick at
provoking thread/SMP/scheduler bugs if you give it a high thread
count (and use a pretty fast DNS, I suppose).

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