alpha/75317: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha

[Wilko Bulte]

On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 10:26:28AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote..
> On Tuesday 27 March 2007 01:43:34 am Remko Lodder wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 12:13:34AM +0200, Idar Tollefsen wrote:
> > > >On Monday 26 March 2007 04:36:44 pm Remko Lodder wrote:
> > > >>Synopsis: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha
> > > >>
> > > >>State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
> > > >>State-Changed-By: remko
> > > >>State-Changed-When: Mon Mar 26 20:36:44 UTC 2007
> > > >>State-Changed-Why: 
> > > >>alpha is no longer supported and time will not be invested to get things
> > > >>fixed. Our apologies for our lack of attention for this issue.
> > > >
> > > >What the heck?!!! I just posted a patch to the list for this TODAY.  
> > > >Please reopen this bug.  Alpha may not be in 7.0, but since 6.x is still 
> a 
> > > >supported branch it is still a supported platform, and fixes that go into 
> > > >6.x are still very welcome.
> > > 
> > > Yes, I sort of wondered what was going on. We get these reminders about 
> > > bug reports filed against FreeBSD/Alpha sent to us at freebsd-alpha@ 
> > > once a month and when someone actually DOES something about it, the bug 
> > > is closed before the patch can tested and committed?
> > > 
> > > Please don't do that.
> > > 
> > > I for one appreciate the work and effort, John.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > - Idar
> > 
> > Don't misunderstand me, I also appriciate the work of John and the other
> > committers; though most alpha PR's are stale and unlikely to get resolved
> > anytime soon (read:  never). I dont want to uphold something that isn't
> > going to get fixed, and yes that would mean stepping on some people's toes
> > from time to time, in that case we can actively do something about the
> > specific tickets while the others well just fade out.
> > 
> > Thanks for the feedback though, the ticket had been reopened and apologies
> > had been made in the ticket.
> 
> I think it was a bit of a misunderstanding actually and I might have 
> overreacted a bit.  Apparently there's been some noise in the PR + core team 
> about closing Alpha PR's and that just happened to collide with my finally 
> sending a patch out for testing yesterday. :)  If there is a decision that is 
> made wrt Alpha PR's, it would be helpful to at least have some sort of 
> announcement made on the alpha@ mailing list.  I think we should hold off on 
> doing too much de-support of Alpha though until we truly de-support it when 
> we stop supporting 6.x.

That is still the official story.  Also true is that most alpha PRs
still in the system have been there for a long time.  Some of them are
quite hardware model dependent, just to complicate matters.

Dunno.. I'm too biased with regards to the Alpha port deorbiting to
comment further.

Wilko
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Wilko Bulte				wilko at FreeBSD.org