From jason at dixongroup.net Sun Nov 2 17:20:06 2008 From: jason at dixongroup.net (Jason Dixon) Date: Sun Nov 2 17:20:12 2008 Subject: DCBSDCon 2009 Call for Papers Message-ID: <20081103005815.GW21806@dixongroup.net> The DCBSDCon conference has opened up a Call for Papers for the 2009 event. Speakers are welcome to submit any topic of interest, although security themes are preferred. This conference leads up to the very popular ShmooCon hacker convention in Washington, D.C. where BSD developers and users are always in attendance. Main Website: http://www.dcbsdcon.org/ Call For Papers: http://www.dcbsdcon.org/cfp.html Hope to see you there! -- Jason Dixon DixonGroup Consulting http://www.dixongroup.net/ From scrappy at hub.org Mon Nov 3 14:53:18 2008 From: scrappy at hub.org (Marc G. Fournier) Date: Mon Nov 3 15:03:21 2008 Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In Message-ID: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: PC-BSD 17 454 hosts FreeBSD 5 526 hosts DesktopBSD 1 919 hosts NetBSD 86 hosts MirBSD 21 hosts OpenBSD 55 hosts DragonFly 26 hosts MidnightBSD 26 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 2 hosts We currently have hosts being reported in from 135 countries, with the top 10 being: United States 6 082 Russian Federation 1 836 Germany 1 586 Australia 1 341 Ukraine 997 France 930 Japan 898 United Kingdom 791 Canada 767 Brazil 729 Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org Project Objective: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100% optional ... For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the word, we need more ... If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From witt at cylogistics.com Mon Nov 3 15:31:43 2008 From: witt at cylogistics.com (Don Witt) Date: Mon Nov 3 15:46:15 2008 Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In In-Reply-To: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> Message-ID: <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers accurate? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:34 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; users@lists.dragonflybsd.org; netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org; Thorsten Glaser; Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez; midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org; miros-discuss@66h.42h.de; general@desktopbsd.net; announce@lists.pcbsd.org; public@lists.pcbsd.org Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: PC-BSD 17 454 hosts FreeBSD 5 526 hosts DesktopBSD 1 919 hosts NetBSD 86 hosts MirBSD 21 hosts OpenBSD 55 hosts DragonFly 26 hosts MidnightBSD 26 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 2 hosts We currently have hosts being reported in from 135 countries, with the top 10 being: United States 6 082 Russian Federation 1 836 Germany 1 586 Australia 1 341 Ukraine 997 France 930 Japan 898 United Kingdom 791 Canada 767 Brazil 729 Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org Project Objective: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100% optional ... For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the word, we need more ... If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 _______________________________________________ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From murray at stokely.org Mon Nov 3 16:23:56 2008 From: murray at stokely.org (Murray Stokely) Date: Mon Nov 3 16:29:44 2008 Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In In-Reply-To: <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> Message-ID: <2a7894eb0811031601h3ed4c41flf0bc90679da62ecd@mail.gmail.com> [BCCed others] On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Don Witt wrote: > This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers > accurate? These numbers represent the number of people that have installed a program to report usage, and are almost completely uncorrelated with actual usage rates. There needs to be a big warning at the top of these very misleading reports. Also, the massive spam to many different lists is not ideal. Any guess at actual "usage" numbers would be many orders of magnitude larger, and PC-BSD would be a rounding error to other BSDs used in large hosting environments (nothing against the great work being done by PC-BSD, just a fact based on desktop vs server focus). I continue to believe that sending out these numbers which massively undercount all operating systems is very counter-productive, but I've said that before. If you want to get better numbers you could try to survey all web servers on the internet, identify the host operating systems by server responses, tcp/ip timing characteristics, or other heuristics. You could alternatively mine google analytics / webserver log data for large websites if you want client numbers, or countless other data sources that would give you far more data than this self reporting mechanism, and with a much better sample than the very biased mechanism used for these numbers. - Murray From justin at sigsegv.ca Mon Nov 3 16:49:32 2008 From: justin at sigsegv.ca (Justin Givens) Date: Mon Nov 3 16:49:38 2008 Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In In-Reply-To: <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> Message-ID: <5da021490811031628h5b481d47p5e55866884252b32@mail.gmail.com> Those are only boxes that "report in" -- as it says, PC-BSD is the only one that automatically reports. The rest don't by default. That means that those figures are not really accurate for overall usage, except for PC-BSD. On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Don Witt wrote: > This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers > accurate? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:34 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; > users@lists.dragonflybsd.org; netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org; Thorsten Glaser; > Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez; > midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org; miros-discuss@66h.42h.de; > general@desktopbsd.net; announce@lists.pcbsd.org; public@lists.pcbsd.org > Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In > > > As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ > hosts > reporting in, with a break down as follows: > > PC-BSD 17 454 hosts > FreeBSD 5 526 hosts > DesktopBSD 1 919 hosts > NetBSD 86 hosts > MirBSD 21 hosts > OpenBSD 55 hosts > DragonFly 26 hosts > MidnightBSD 26 hosts > GNU/kFreeBSD 2 hosts > > We currently have hosts being reported in from 135 countries, with the top > 10 > being: > > United States 6 082 > Russian Federation 1 836 > Germany 1 586 > Australia 1 341 > Ukraine 997 > France 930 > Japan 898 > United Kingdom 791 > Canada 767 > Brazil 729 > > Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org > > Project Objective: > > "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy > and > marketing of the *BSD operating systems." > > > PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to > enabled, > while the rest have to be enabled manually. > > For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to > set > things up. > > If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the > report > script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, > is > > being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is > required, > > and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are > 100% > optional ... > > For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread > the > word, we need more ... > > > If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... > > -- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org > ) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > From murray at stokely.org Mon Nov 3 18:38:15 2008 From: murray at stokely.org (Murray Stokely) Date: Mon Nov 3 18:38:22 2008 Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In In-Reply-To: <66f8907fb3b0da766ce4aad67d2783a8.squirrel@192.168.1.100> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> <2a7894eb0811031601h3ed4c41flf0bc90679da62ecd@mail.gmail.com> <66f8907fb3b0da766ce4aad67d2783a8.squirrel@192.168.1.100> Message-ID: <2a7894eb0811031838vcd20ffbv7238463efd4b85a9@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Tim Clewlow wrote: > Or count the number of systems that call home, ie count the number > of different IP addresses that talk to the *BSD servers to install > or update themselves. Yes, Colin has aggregate numbers from freebsd-update users. You could also get the xfer logs from ftp hosts that serve packages for users that use pkg_add -r, cvsup, or similar. - Murray From tim at clewlow.org Mon Nov 3 18:50:22 2008 From: tim at clewlow.org (Tim Clewlow) Date: Mon Nov 3 18:50:29 2008 Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In In-Reply-To: <2a7894eb0811031601h3ed4c41flf0bc90679da62ecd@mail.gmail.com> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> <2a7894eb0811031601h3ed4c41flf0bc90679da62ecd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <66f8907fb3b0da766ce4aad67d2783a8.squirrel@192.168.1.100> > [BCCed others] > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Don Witt > wrote: >> This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these >> numbers >> accurate? > > These numbers represent the number of people that have installed a > program to report usage, and are almost completely uncorrelated with > actual usage rates. > > If you want to get better numbers you could try to survey all web > servers on the internet, identify the host operating systems by > server > responses, tcp/ip timing characteristics, or other heuristics. You > could alternatively mine google analytics / webserver log data for > large websites if you want client numbers, or countless other data > sources that would give you far more data than this self reporting > mechanism, and with a much better sample than the very biased > mechanism used for these numbers. > Or count the number of systems that call home, ie count the number of different IP addresses that talk to the *BSD servers to install or update themselves. Tim. From scrappy at hub.org Mon Nov 3 17:20:57 2008 From: scrappy at hub.org (Marc G. Fournier) Date: Mon Nov 3 21:44:38 2008 Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In In-Reply-To: <490F92DA.3040609@bah.homeip.net> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <490F92DA.3040609@bah.homeip.net> Message-ID: <05F153A016EF18681BD5E93E@ganymede.hub.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Tuesday, November 04, 2008 01:10:02 +0100 Bernt Hansson wrote: > Marc G. Fournier skrev: >> As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ >> hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: > > There are errors on your homepage > > 6,072 is a lot less then 500. Pardon? I don't see either # on the home page .. *puzzled look* - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPo3EACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvP3CwCeOE++67wohEqs0ahwWyMtFPpo UgAAn2vgaNlYDqSba42ztrSg8CtSyc8/ =s18z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From scrappy at hub.org Mon Nov 3 18:38:24 2008 From: scrappy at hub.org (Marc G. Fournier) Date: Mon Nov 3 21:44:44 2008 Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In In-Reply-To: <490FAD05.1050001@hdk5.net> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <490FAD05.1050001@hdk5.net> Message-ID: <402926769294954ABF59EF33@ganymede.hub.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Monday, November 03, 2008 16:01:41 -1000 Al Plant wrote: > > Aloha, > > I have 10 FreeBSD servers and desktops in use here in Hawaii. > > These are not on the list as I only have 4 servers that are up 24/7 and they > are fire walled off with pf. > > The 6 others are on a lan behind a Linux Freesco Firewall. Only 2 on 24/7 the > rest are on an as used boot up basis. > > How can I get them Listed? Using FreeBSD as a reference point, the port, when it installs, allows you to enable two methods of reporting: monthly (out of periodic) and on reboot ... so that covers the 4 that aren't up 24/7 ... Next, the reporting is not based on your IP ... in fact, to try and address security concerns, we do not store any information such as IP or hostname ... when you run the stats the first time, it generates a distinct key that is used for reporting and is stored on your host for future reporting to identify you ... Finally, for those dealing with firewalls, the script was written to make use of a PROXY server for reporting, so that no holes have to be opened up for an individual host to connect to the rver ... - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPtZsACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNo4wCeJ3diXiZkazxtM1t9wLTb5tc7 uvgAoIxbMIEG2w3V6uvQBMW+dY7i7nn5 =MUtC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From scrappy at hub.org Mon Nov 3 17:12:14 2008 From: scrappy at hub.org (Marc G. Fournier) Date: Tue Nov 4 04:27:56 2008 Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In In-Reply-To: <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> Message-ID: <6C6C117AAA26FCE12662F014@ganymede.hub.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Its a voluntary reporting ... I know with both PC-BSD, reporting is on by default .. with FreeBSD, its a simple 'make install' in ports ... with NetBSD/OpenBSD, I suspect its purely manual, so a bit more work involved ... Both NetBSD / OpenBSD #s have been increasing though, just not as fast as the others ... - --On Monday, November 03, 2008 15:12:46 -0800 Don Witt wrote: > This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers > accurate? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:34 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; > users@lists.dragonflybsd.org; netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org; Thorsten Glaser; > Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez; > midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org; miros-discuss@66h.42h.de; > general@desktopbsd.net; announce@lists.pcbsd.org; public@lists.pcbsd.org > Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In > > > As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ > hosts > reporting in, with a break down as follows: > > PC-BSD 17 454 hosts > FreeBSD 5 526 hosts > DesktopBSD 1 919 hosts > NetBSD 86 hosts > MirBSD 21 hosts > OpenBSD 55 hosts > DragonFly 26 hosts > MidnightBSD 26 hosts > GNU/kFreeBSD 2 hosts > > We currently have hosts being reported in from 135 countries, with the top > 10 > being: > > United States 6 082 > Russian Federation 1 836 > Germany 1 586 > Australia 1 341 > Ukraine 997 > France 930 > Japan 898 > United Kingdom 791 > Canada 767 > Brazil 729 > > Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org > > Project Objective: > > "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy > and > marketing of the *BSD operating systems." > > > PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to > enabled, > while the rest have to be enabled manually. > > For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to > set > things up. > > If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the > report > script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is > > being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, > > and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are > 100% > optional ... > > For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the > word, we need more ... > > > If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... > > -- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPoWYACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNjvACeJvROm9YrnENUroh5EF1BsGKw 0YsAoMIQoRnBnkFwGTcZG2cv/4KlkDmF =blyH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From wb at freebie.xs4all.nl Tue Nov 4 00:43:02 2008 From: wb at freebie.xs4all.nl (Wilko Bulte) Date: Tue Nov 4 04:27:56 2008 Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In In-Reply-To: <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> Message-ID: <20081104083157.GB1381@freebie.xs4all.nl> Quoting Don Witt, who wrote on Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 03:12:46PM -0800 .. > This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers > accurate? They are not not at all accurate. What is being measured for FreeBSD e.g. is the willingness of people to do For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. That has no relation with the total installed base of FreeBSD. And then there is of course the issue of corporations who do run *BSD but do not allow this kind of information to go out into the world? The other BSD derivatives are suffering from the same statistical problems. So, accurate, no, not at all. Wilko > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:34 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; > users@lists.dragonflybsd.org; netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org; Thorsten Glaser; > Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez; > midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org; miros-discuss@66h.42h.de; > general@desktopbsd.net; announce@lists.pcbsd.org; public@lists.pcbsd.org > Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In > > > As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ > hosts > reporting in, with a break down as follows: > > PC-BSD 17 454 hosts > FreeBSD 5 526 hosts > DesktopBSD 1 919 hosts > NetBSD 86 hosts > MirBSD 21 hosts > OpenBSD 55 hosts > DragonFly 26 hosts > MidnightBSD 26 hosts > GNU/kFreeBSD 2 hosts > > We currently have hosts being reported in from 135 countries, with the top > 10 > being: > > United States 6 082 > Russian Federation 1 836 > Germany 1 586 > Australia 1 341 > Ukraine 997 > France 930 > Japan 898 > United Kingdom 791 > Canada 767 > Brazil 729 > > Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org > > Project Objective: > > "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy > and > marketing of the *BSD operating systems." > > > PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to > enabled, > while the rest have to be enabled manually. > > For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to > set > things up. > > If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the > report > script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is > > being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, > > and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are > 100% > optional ... > > For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the > word, we need more ... > > > If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... > > -- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --- End of quoted text --- From kevin.wilcox at gmail.com Tue Nov 4 06:02:06 2008 From: kevin.wilcox at gmail.com (Kevin Wilcox) Date: Tue Nov 4 06:02:13 2008 Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In In-Reply-To: <6C6C117AAA26FCE12662F014@ganymede.hub.org> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> <6C6C117AAA26FCE12662F014@ganymede.hub.org> Message-ID: <5d6848b00811040602j16798387q37f3285c3aee9a5a@mail.gmail.com> CC severely trimmed 2008/11/3 Marc G. Fournier : > Its a voluntary reporting ... I know with both PC-BSD, reporting is on by > default .. with FreeBSD, its a simple 'make install' in ports ... with > NetBSD/OpenBSD, I suspect its purely manual, so a bit more work involved ... With those it is purely manual but I agree with Jason - it's probably more a distinct lack of interest than a desire to do less work. kmw -- Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even if checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory or defeat. From cwolsen at domainatlantic.com Sat Nov 15 19:00:19 2008 From: cwolsen at domainatlantic.com (Christopher Olsen) Date: Sat Nov 15 20:24:58 2008 Subject: Hello Everyone Message-ID: <491F8CBA.8000303@domainatlantic.com> Hi, I'm new to this list and figured I would drop a quick note to say hello... I'm not sure why I haven't joined this list soon but I would have to say that I'm of the biggest FBSD advocates in the NY metro area... Switching companies on a regular basis... How are things in the rest of the world? -Christopher From dima_bsd at inbox.lv Sun Nov 16 09:53:49 2008 From: dima_bsd at inbox.lv (Dmitriy Demidov) Date: Sun Nov 16 09:54:21 2008 Subject: FreeBSD birthday date Message-ID: <200811161853.44718.dima_bsd@inbox.lv> Hi all I did not found this information on www.freebsd.org and google also did not told me any correct date, so I just wanna to make a clear and ask - is there any official date of birth for "Beastie" :) http://www.freebsd.org/releases/ says that it is a "1.0 (November, 1993)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebsd says that: "The first official release was FreeBSD 1.0 in December 1993" In the same time meetBSD California 2008 is sheduled for November 15th So, is it that 15.11.1993 is the official birthday date? =) From dan at langille.org Sun Nov 16 12:38:57 2008 From: dan at langille.org (Dan Langille) Date: Sun Nov 16 12:39:03 2008 Subject: FreeBSD birthday date In-Reply-To: <200811161853.44718.dima_bsd@inbox.lv> References: <200811161853.44718.dima_bsd@inbox.lv> Message-ID: <769CE38C-5DCA-4737-9AB5-2EB2A3A15B8E@langille.org> On Nov 16, 2008, at 8:53 AM, Dmitriy Demidov wrote: > Hi all > > I did not found this information on www.freebsd.org and google also > did not > told me any correct date, so I just wanna to make a clear and ask - > is there > any official date of birth for "Beastie" :) > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/ > says that it is a "1.0 (November, 1993)" > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebsd > says that: "The first official release was FreeBSD 1.0 in December > 1993" > > In the same time meetBSD California 2008 is sheduled for November 15th > > So, is it that 15.11.1993 is the official birthday date? =) Consider that it's a weekend. Consider MeetBSD is schedule after LISA 2008, by design. The rest is left as an exercise for the reader. -- Dan Langille http://langille.org/ From des at des.no Mon Nov 17 01:09:39 2008 From: des at des.no (=?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?=) Date: Mon Nov 17 01:09:47 2008 Subject: FreeBSD birthday date In-Reply-To: <200811161853.44718.dima_bsd@inbox.lv> (Dmitriy Demidov's message of "Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:53:44 +0200") References: <200811161853.44718.dima_bsd@inbox.lv> Message-ID: <86prku3f8r.fsf@ds4.des.no> Dmitriy Demidov writes: > is there any official date of birth for "Beastie" [...] > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/ says that it is a "1.0 (November, > 1993)" Beastie is far older than FreeBSD; the idea of a daemon as a mascot for Unix predates even the CSRG BSD. Phil Foglio drew the first version in 1976. John Lasseter first drew what we currently know as Beastie for a book cover in 1984; he drew a second version for the 4.3BSD book in 1988 and a third for the 4.4BSD book in 1994. The 1988 version is the most widely used today. DES -- Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav - des@des.no From ehaupt at FreeBSD.org Fri Nov 21 05:52:49 2008 From: ehaupt at FreeBSD.org (Emanuel Haupt) Date: Fri Nov 21 05:53:19 2008 Subject: 64bit flash player for linux released Message-ID: <20081121141408.e3eb109f.ehaupt@FreeBSD.org> Has anyone tried this with our linuxulator? http://blogs.computerworld.com/64_bit_linux_adobe_flash_player_surprisingly_good From jhb at freebsd.org Fri Nov 21 11:58:58 2008 From: jhb at freebsd.org (John Baldwin) Date: Fri Nov 21 11:59:04 2008 Subject: 64bit flash player for linux released In-Reply-To: <20081121141408.e3eb109f.ehaupt@FreeBSD.org> References: <20081121141408.e3eb109f.ehaupt@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <200811211338.54008.jhb@freebsd.org> On Friday 21 November 2008 08:14:08 am Emanuel Haupt wrote: > Has anyone tried this with our linuxulator? > > http://blogs.computerworld.com/64_bit_linux_adobe_flash_player_surprisingly_good The amd64 linuxulator only handles 32-bit linux binaries currently, so it won't be able to run this. -- John Baldwin