Certification (was RE: realpath(3) et al) - jumping to -advocacy

[Devon H. O'Dell]

Likewise, I am registering bsdportal.org (so none of you take it :P) where I
will write some stuff. A taste of some of it is already in my /. journal,
for the time being (http://slashdot.org/~dodell/journal, for what it's
worth). I'd really like to see this certification go through but, as I've
stated multiple times already, I'd like to see a project sincerely devoted
to getting these funs raised. I am (at the moment) a "systems and network
engineer" by title, but have extensive knowledge of backend server
development (although you'd probably only know me about PHP) in many
languages. I'd love to contribute any time and effort I have available to
the advancement of this project.

PLEASE let me know how I can help out.

--Devon

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> advocacy at freebsd.org] Namens twig les
> Verzonden: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:15 PM
> Aan: Robert Watson
> CC: freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org
> Onderwerp: Re: Certification (was RE: realpath(3) et al) - jumping to -
> advocacy
> 
> I think a nice website to have would be one devoted to using
> FreeBSD as a drop-in replacement for Solaris, i.e. in a
> corporate environment.  Speaking of PR certifications, I'm busy
> for the next month renewing my CISSP but after that I will look
> at registering a domain like "CorporateBSD.com" or something.
> Since I'm a lousy developer, this will alleviate my guilt for
> not contributing code.  The basic idea is to either host or link
> to tons of how-tos that address corporate concerns like patch
> roll-outs and hot-spares.
> 
> --- Robert Watson <rwatson at freebsd.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, twig les wrote:
> >
> > > I am CC'ing -advocacy on this so we can officially move this
> > thread over
> > > (bc getting chastised hurts my inner-child).  Please don't
> > CC -security
> > > anymore, although I am in no position whatsoever to enforce
> > this
> > > request.  Now, to the topic...
> >
> > I certainly didn't mean to chastise :-).  I was just saying
> > that
> > certifications are odd things -- they have value in strange
> > ways.  My main
> > concern was that people seemed to think it had value from a
> > practical
> > security implementation perspective -- I'm not sure that it
> > does.  It's
> > value is entirely in market, PR, et al, and I agree that there
> > is
> > substantial value to be had there, if approached the right
> > way.
> >
> > > A large company that has a roll-out hardware/software
> > package.  This
> > > includes support.  I *know* that it is easy to patch/make
> > world, but the
> > > number of "computer engineers" that have never heard of SSH
> > is
> > > astounding.  Management needs a 3rd-party to bitch about and
> > know will
> > > still be around in 5 years.
> > >
> > > A console port on the hardware platform.  Have you ever
> > tried sending
> > > management to the pcweasel web site?
> > >
> > > As silly as it sounds (and I understand how silly it
> > sounds), a
> > > certification like the Red Hack one would help.  I apologize
> > profusely
> > > for saying that.
> > >
> > > I'm sure I'm missing a lot but if we want a corporate
> > sponsor like my
> > > massive mother company (which rhymes with AT&C) then it
> > seems like we
> > > need different medium companies pushing FreeBSD instead of
> > redhat as a
> > > packaged solution.
> >
> > I agree with these conclusions entirely.  RedHat plays a
> > valuable role in
> > the Linux world in a variety of ways, and one of the most
> > important is to
> > provide the kind of support and legitimacy presence that many
> > large
> > companies are looking for.  Having one for the FreeBSD world
> > would
> > certainly provide a lot of swing for FreeBSD.  It would also
> > change the
> > dynamic of the FreeBSD Project substantially, I expect, but it
> > would be
> > hard to predict too much how.  I think that many people hoped
> > that BSDi
> > could play this role for FreeBSD, but obviously that didn't
> > work out :-).
> >
> > So, if you know of a small company that wants to get bigger,
> > and wants to
> > give a spin at promoting FreeBSD in this manner (and making
> > money off it
> > in a sustainable way), I would encourage you to encourage
> > them.  I'm sure
> > there are a fair number of FreeBSD developers who would like
> > to work for
> > such a company, if they thought it was viable.
> >
> > Robert N M Watson             FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD
> > Projects
> > robert at fledge.watson.org      Network Associates Laboratories
> >
> >
> 
> 
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