cvs commit: www/en/projects/ideas index.sgml

[Alexander Leidinger]

Quoting Robert Watson <rwatson at FreeBSD.org> (from Sat, 17 Feb 2007  
19:37:48 +0000 (GMT)):

>
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
>
>>> - Magic symlinks: Several implementations exists, so we don't need more
>>>   people looking at this right now.
>>
>> But we need people reviewing them and chosing the right one. So the  
>>  entry needs to be changed instead of removed.
>
> I think an alternative explanaation is that people have looked at them
> and been left sufficiently worried by the experience as to wonder
> whether "magic symlinks" are really a good idea.  I think we should
> take it off the list before we get yet another set of patches that
> won't be accepted for the same reason.

There are mixed feelings about this in the responses. AFAIR it can be  
summarized to: If it is not enabled by default and needs to be  
activated even when compiled in (sysctl), then nobody will object. The  
crowd which is interested in the magic symlinks would be happy with  
this solution too.

If an entry is removed completely because it is inappropriate we  
should list it somewhere and explain why it will not be accepted in  
the tree.

> I have mixed feelings about "zombie" entries since we've reached the
> point where most entries would be zombie entries.  How about we have a
> separate page on projects that are currently in progress?  People go to
> the ideas page, one presumes, to find things to work on, so we should
> only list things that are new ideas to be worked on.

The metaphor behind my idea about the zombie entries can be visualized  
like as the plug-in window in firefox. It tells you the current status  
and when you click on update it will show te plug-ins which can be  
updated. When you update them the state changes in the list.

Your proposal can be visualized as two tabs, one with the plugins for  
which updates are available (open ideas), and one for the plugins  
which will be activated at next (re)start (nearly finished ideas).

For the firefox plugins the current way is more appropriate. For our  
ideas list I see good points in both approaches. I can't really say  
one is more appropriate than the other. A variation of the zombie  
entries idea is to have a separate paragraph for the nearly finished  
stuff.

My main motivation is to show the progess we make. Sometimes I get  
drive-by questions about the status of some of the entries. So our  
userbase definitivly wants to know about the progress. As long as we  
inform them instead of just removing the entries, It's ok for me. I  
don't care that much if this is inline, as a separate paragraph, or as  
a separate page.

Bye,
Alexander.

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