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eta at lclark.edu
Mon Jun 27 19:02:10 GMT 2005
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 13:13 +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 05:16:25PM -0700, Adam Weinberger wrote:
> > Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> > >On Saturday, 18. June 2005 00:59, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> - Use the correct prefix (X11- instead of LOCAL- or LINUX-) for some
> > >>ports. Chase dependencies for this.
> > >
> > >
> > >I know I'm late to the party, but I'm really wondering what that is meant
> > >to accomplish.
> > >
> > >X_PREFIX is *not* the 'correct' prefix for *anything* but the X11
> > >distribution - the fact that there's a truckload of other stuff in there
> > >is an age-old bug. We *should* be moving stuff *out* of X_PREFIX en masse,
> > >but I know how likely that is to happen. We *really should NOT*, however,
> > >keep putting *new* stuff in there.
> I tend to agree. FreeBSD has a long history of abusing both X11BASE and
> LOCALBASE, FWIW. Pure X11R6 stuff (which is a lot of bits and files)
> should go under X11BASE (that is, XFree86/X.Org distibution files + some
> stuff like GLUT, nvidia's, etc). Everything else should go to PKGBASE,
> which usually is /opt, and this is IMHO The Right Way(TM).
> I'll go and shut up, making sure that my ports are truly
- Is imake pure X11R6 stuff? It's just another ugly build system.
- How about mmapr/mmapw/pcitweak, distributed with xorg-server?
- DRI drivers definitely aren't X11R6 stuff -- they've already been
demonstrated in many situations involving no X11 at all, and in the
future X will run on top of DRI, not the other way around.
- Luit isn't an X program, it's just a filter to help terminal
That's off the top of my head. The fact is, even the X.Org distribution
has a lot of non-X stuff. Trying to maintain this divide between X
stuff and not X stuff is a bad move. /usr/X11R6 existed (afaik) to deal
with interface breakages across X11 versions. That's not happening any
more. The reason for /usr/X11R6's existence is gone. Some linux
distributions are getting rid of /usr/X11R6 and replacing it with a
symlink (for compatibility), with good results. I believe we should
adopt a policy now:
* Do not put new ports in X11BASE if you can avoid it.
* Move leaf ports to LOCALBASE if you can.
to pave the way for making a complete move at some point.
Eric Anholt eta at lclark.edu
http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/ anholt at FreeBSD.org
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