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[Michael Nottebrock]

On Sunday, 26. June 2005 02:16, Adam Weinberger wrote:

> lofi -
>
> You're kindof beating a dead horse here. 

Obviously not. Or to put it another way, just read Alexander's mails to see 
how this horse had been dead for so long that people are mistaking its decay 
scent for a BBQ and even will make a case for it to stay and rot further!

> For the meantime, stuff should go into X11BASE, where everything X-based
> except for KDE and OOo is, and should become part of the list of stuff
> to be moved to LOCALBASE.

Huh? What kind of a strategy is that? Sticking our heads into the sand 
full-force until they magically emerge on the other side of the planet again?

> If you can come up with a deployment plan to leave xorg in X11BASE and 
> move everything else out, *please* let us know! But arguing about how 
> things are wrong now won't solve much.

How about appointing some of the many, many people who are in agreement with 
me to portmgr deputies for a start so there's at least some manpower 
available? I can guarantee you that nobody will just sit down and submit a PR 
with a megapatch without some kind of backing by portmgr/RE.

Also, the mass-migration is just the critical last step. The very first step, 
as Alexander has pointed out, is to change the documentation to even more 
clearly state that putting anything that isn't part of the X11R6 distribution 
is taboo. It's a silly verbal cluebat, but we're apparently in need for one.

And there's a lot of stuff that doesn't need a huge deployment plan, but just 
a good opportunity. Qt for example can easily move out of X11R6 - I'm 
planning to do the move with Qt 4, where changing the prefix will have the 
additional bonus of making it harder for people to try and compile KDE 3.x 
with Qt 4. I'm pretty sure there are many other things in X11R6 that can be 
rather easily moved before we'd need to deal with the big showstoppers (like 
GNOME).

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