cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/pf/net if_pflog.c if_pflog.h if_pfsync.c if_pfsync.h pf.c pf_ioctl.c pf_norm.c pf_osfp.c pf_table.c pfvar.h src/sys/contrib/pf/netinet in4_cksum.c

Bruce M Simpson bms at
Fri Feb 27 21:32:09 PST 2004

On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 10:23:25AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote:
> Q: "Was this import discussed on arch@ or current@?"
> A: No.  We held private discussions.

I make absolutely no apologies for this, because it's how real progress
happens. Otherwise all effort is frittered away on bikesheds. Outside of
FreeBSD (yet somewhat related) I have this problem. I am in discussions
with a lawyer and freenetworks protagonists about legal strategies for
the survival and propagation of freenetworks. If I were to publicly air
EVERYTHING we've been doing and discussing, it would be disastrous.

> If any of ipfw, ipfilter, or ip6fw are candidates for removal, then
> it needs to be done before 5-STABLE is branched.  Otherwise, we need
> to find individuals to actively maintain each of these throughout the
> lifetime of 5.X (a 3 to 5 year time span).

We'll build that bridge when we come to it. We all have an interest in
seeing these bolt-ons to the network stack propagate and survive. I am
encouraged by luigi's feedback here.

> > I also have Evil Plans(tm) for pf on FreeBSD.
> Care to summarize your plans?

See earlier mail.


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